HELP Im leaking again

clayton · 08-28-2011, 08:09 PM

Hi
Below is the picture.
I am leaking what looks like oil from the area behind the clutch bleed housing.
In the picture you may also see what looks liek a black seal is this my issue or do I have bigger problems? Scratch that..It looks like this is only a spacer. there is however another oil seal behind here along with a piston...please look here...
http://www.clintoncountymotorsports....008&fveh=21205
I have never taken this area apart before on any bike, does anyone have some experience here?
Please help I was planning on leaving this coming weekend on a bike trip.
Thanks all ahead of time

**Cajunrider** · 08-28-2011, 08:16 PM

Clayton, The part you are pointing at is the clutch slave. Is it oil or brake fluid? If it is motor oil, your clutch pushrod seal may have popped out of the cavity it seals. If you want to investigate, use a zip tie to hold your clutch lever pulled in and remove the three bolts holding the slave unit in place. You will then see the pushrod. If the small donut seal has slipped out, you will need to clean it and the cavity well. Then use gasket adhesive around the OD of the seal and slide it back in being careful not to push it all the way through into the crankcase. Bolt the slave back up and reassemble the cover, shift levers and side cover. Let it set up a couple of hours and you should be good to go.

clayton · 08-28-2011, 08:57 PM

Cajun
Thanks..while I was waiting I did take the cover off...but didnt zip tie? (did I screw up?)
In any case yes this donut seal was almost all the way out of the hole.
It looks good and I pushed it back in to see if it was (obviously) the culprit.
So as far as this rod is concerned...can I remove it? this is to remove the donut to put gasket adhesive on it? or should I gingerly slide the seal back out?
Does this happen alot?
I about had another heart attack LOL

**ringadingh** · 08-28-2011, 09:11 PM

Loctite the seal in place, make sure you clean the area real good first.

**Cajunrider** · 08-28-2011, 09:12 PM

I didn't pull the push rod out of the bike I worked on but you can if you wish. Zip tieing the clutch lever keeps the piston from creeping out of the slave over an extended period of time. If you have it all back together, that didn't happen to you. If you can slide the seal back out without removing the push rod, do so. That will ensure you don't push the seal into the crankcase allowing it to fall to the bottom.

clayton · 08-28-2011, 09:13 PM

I did find a write up on this here:
http://home.insightbb.com/~kpmh.010/...h-Rod-Seal.htm
I suppose my question is why does it come out in one direction? What keeps it from going back into the case?
I know dumb question but an honest one :)
Thanks Cajun

**Cajunrider** · 08-28-2011, 09:16 PM

It does go into the case in some instances. A couple of guys on here had that happen.

**ringadingh** · 08-28-2011, 09:16 PM

It apparently can fall into the case, it won't harm anything if it dangles on the shaft, but try to avoid pushing it in too far.

Hacksaw · 08-29-2011, 08:08 AM

Clayton thanks for posting and including that link.
As luck would have it last night when I parked to go in the store I found oil dripping from the kickstand area. When I came home I saw your post and figure yep there's my problem as well. I've ordered a new seal, figure I may as well replace it while I'm in there.

clayton · 08-29-2011, 11:25 AM

Ok...I see mentioned 2 alternatives to securing the donut..
Cajun: Gasket Adhesive
Ring: Loctite (blue I assume?)
In either case I assume both would work but in the event that later down the road
the seal actually should fail which of the 2 would be best once I need to remove the donut/seal?

**ringadingh** · 08-29-2011, 05:02 PM

Blue will work well, as long as you clean the oil residue good.

mobandy78 · 08-31-2011, 04:33 PM

Just reading your heading, I was thinking this was more of a personal problem and you may need to see a doctor.

Hacksaw · 09-03-2011, 01:14 PM

Just finished doing mine..pulled the clutch slave off and the seal was out on the pushrod about 1 1/2" out from the casing. I had ordered a new seal, put loctite on it, put a light film of grease along the pushrod where it slides through the seal.

Overall it's not a difficult job at all, laying on asphalt in 97 degree heat made it seem much worse :)

leadbelly · 09-06-2011, 10:45 PM

This is kinda crazy, must be seal replacement season or something.... found oil dripping from my kickstand area tonight. Pulled the floor board, shift lever and cover to discouver the oil leek looks like it's coming from the clutch slave. Exact problem Claton and Hacksaw are having.
Thx for posting the fix Cajunrider and Ring. Mines an '08 with 23,370 Km and using Rotella T6 the past 15000 Km or so if anyones interested.

08-28-2011, 08:09 PM	#1
clayton Advanced Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cincinnati Ohio Posts: 618	HELP Im leaking again Hi Below is the picture. I am leaking what looks like oil from the area behind the clutch bleed housing. In the picture you may also see what looks liek a black seal is this my issue or do I have bigger problems? Scratch that..It looks like this is only a spacer. there is however another oil seal behind here along with a piston...please look here... http://www.clintoncountymotorsports....008&fveh=21205 I have never taken this area apart before on any bike, does anyone have some experience here? Please help I was planning on leaving this coming weekend on a bike trip. Thanks all ahead of time __________________ Clayton 2008 1600 Nomad VBA #01332 Login or Register to Remove Ads
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08-28-2011, 08:16 PM	#2
Cajunrider Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: (SE Louisiana) Posts: 8,340	HELP Im leaking again Clayton, The part you are pointing at is the clutch slave. Is it oil or brake fluid? If it is motor oil, your clutch pushrod seal may have popped out of the cavity it seals. If you want to investigate, use a zip tie to hold your clutch lever pulled in and remove the three bolts holding the slave unit in place. You will then see the pushrod. If the small donut seal has slipped out, you will need to clean it and the cavity well. Then use gasket adhesive around the OD of the seal and slide it back in being careful not to push it all the way through into the crankcase. Bolt the slave back up and reassemble the cover, shift levers and side cover. Let it set up a couple of hours and you should be good to go. __________________ 2016 Electra Glide Ultra Limited CVO Palladium Silver / Phantom Blue 110 cu in SE 2012 Electra Glide Ultra Limited (Traded 6/22/16) Tequila Sunrise / HD Orange Vance & Hines true dual headers Rinehart 4" slip ons Screamin Eagle Super Tuner Screamin Eagle Stage 1 intake Dyno tuned H.O.G.# 4514015 2007 Nomad 1600 (Traded 6/23/12) VBA #482
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08-28-2011, 08:57 PM	#3
clayton Advanced Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cincinnati Ohio Posts: 618	HELP Im leaking again Cajun Thanks..while I was waiting I did take the cover off...but didnt zip tie? (did I screw up?) In any case yes this donut seal was almost all the way out of the hole. It looks good and I pushed it back in to see if it was (obviously) the culprit. So as far as this rod is concerned...can I remove it? this is to remove the donut to put gasket adhesive on it? or should I gingerly slide the seal back out? Does this happen alot? I about had another heart attack LOL __________________ Clayton 2008 1600 Nomad VBA #01332
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08-28-2011, 09:11 PM	#4
ringadingh Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newmarket Ontario Canada Posts: 35,387	HELP Im leaking again Loctite the seal in place, make sure you clean the area real good first. __________________ 2002 Nomad aka Bountyhunter VBA #27 VROC #18951
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08-28-2011, 09:12 PM	#5
Cajunrider Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: (SE Louisiana) Posts: 8,340	HELP Im leaking again I didn't pull the push rod out of the bike I worked on but you can if you wish. Zip tieing the clutch lever keeps the piston from creeping out of the slave over an extended period of time. If you have it all back together, that didn't happen to you. If you can slide the seal back out without removing the push rod, do so. That will ensure you don't push the seal into the crankcase allowing it to fall to the bottom. __________________ 2016 Electra Glide Ultra Limited CVO Palladium Silver / Phantom Blue 110 cu in SE 2012 Electra Glide Ultra Limited (Traded 6/22/16) Tequila Sunrise / HD Orange Vance & Hines true dual headers Rinehart 4" slip ons Screamin Eagle Super Tuner Screamin Eagle Stage 1 intake Dyno tuned H.O.G.# 4514015 2007 Nomad 1600 (Traded 6/23/12) VBA #482 Login or Register to Remove Ads
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08-28-2011, 09:13 PM	#6
clayton Advanced Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cincinnati Ohio Posts: 618	HELP Im leaking again I did find a write up on this here: http://home.insightbb.com/~kpmh.010/...h-Rod-Seal.htm I suppose my question is why does it come out in one direction? What keeps it from going back into the case? I know dumb question but an honest one :) Thanks Cajun __________________ Clayton 2008 1600 Nomad VBA #01332
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08-28-2011, 09:16 PM	#7
Cajunrider Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: (SE Louisiana) Posts: 8,340	HELP Im leaking again It does go into the case in some instances. A couple of guys on here had that happen. __________________ 2016 Electra Glide Ultra Limited CVO Palladium Silver / Phantom Blue 110 cu in SE 2012 Electra Glide Ultra Limited (Traded 6/22/16) Tequila Sunrise / HD Orange Vance & Hines true dual headers Rinehart 4" slip ons Screamin Eagle Super Tuner Screamin Eagle Stage 1 intake Dyno tuned H.O.G.# 4514015 2007 Nomad 1600 (Traded 6/23/12) VBA #482
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08-28-2011, 09:16 PM	#8
ringadingh Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newmarket Ontario Canada Posts: 35,387	HELP Im leaking again It apparently can fall into the case, it won't harm anything if it dangles on the shaft, but try to avoid pushing it in too far. __________________ 2002 Nomad aka Bountyhunter VBA #27 VROC #18951
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08-29-2011, 08:08 AM	#9
Hacksaw Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Northern Kentucky Posts: 457	HELP Im leaking again Clayton thanks for posting and including that link. As luck would have it last night when I parked to go in the store I found oil dripping from the kickstand area. When I came home I saw your post and figure yep there's my problem as well. I've ordered a new seal, figure I may as well replace it while I'm in there. __________________ Harley Ultra Classic VBA# 01712 VROC# 37712
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08-29-2011, 11:25 AM	#10
clayton Advanced Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cincinnati Ohio Posts: 618	HELP Im leaking again Ok...I see mentioned 2 alternatives to securing the donut.. Cajun: Gasket Adhesive Ring: Loctite (blue I assume?) In either case I assume both would work but in the event that later down the road the seal actually should fail which of the 2 would be best once I need to remove the donut/seal? __________________ Clayton 2008 1600 Nomad VBA #01332
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08-29-2011, 05:02 PM	#11
ringadingh Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newmarket Ontario Canada Posts: 35,387	HELP Im leaking again Blue will work well, as long as you clean the oil residue good. __________________ 2002 Nomad aka Bountyhunter VBA #27 VROC #18951
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08-31-2011, 04:33 PM	#12
mobandy78 Sr. Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Owasso, OK Posts: 1,485	HELP Im leaking again Just reading your heading, I was thinking this was more of a personal problem and you may need to see a doctor. __________________ Matt "Mo" Moore Owasso, Oklahoma VBA #1250 2005 Nomad 1600 - Darkside "There is no normal life, there's just life. So get on with it." - Doc Holiday
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09-03-2011, 01:14 PM	#13
Hacksaw Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Northern Kentucky Posts: 457	HELP Im leaking again Just finished doing mine..pulled the clutch slave off and the seal was out on the pushrod about 1 1/2" out from the casing. I had ordered a new seal, put loctite on it, put a light film of grease along the pushrod where it slides through the seal. Overall it's not a difficult job at all, laying on asphalt in 97 degree heat made it seem much worse :) __________________ Harley Ultra Classic VBA# 01712 VROC# 37712
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09-06-2011, 10:45 PM	#14
leadbelly Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Calgary, Alberta Canada Posts: 340	HELP Im leaking again This is kinda crazy, must be seal replacement season or something.... found oil dripping from my kickstand area tonight. Pulled the floor board, shift lever and cover to discouver the oil leek looks like it's coming from the clutch slave. Exact problem Claton and Hacksaw are having. Thx for posting the fix Cajunrider and Ring. Mines an '08 with 23,370 Km and using Rotella T6 the past 15000 Km or so if anyones interested. __________________ '08 Blue/Silver
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