HD vs Vaquero discussion on HD forum

[scott2007nomad]

http://www.harley-davidsonforums.com...de-custom.html

I thought some may get a kick out of this discussion.

[Loafer]

Interesting... Thanks for posting.

[cactusjack]

Some of those guys are real neanderthals and their idiotic statements only underscore their glaring ignorance.

[schoeney]

Now I understand why CJ + GWilson hang out here even though they ride HD's. Many of them sound like the stereotype.

[ponch]

It's kind of like counter factual thinking.

[blowndodge]

Originally Posted by cactusjack

Some of those guys are real neanderthals and their idiotic statements only underscore their glaring ignorance.

Your welcome here anyway Neanderthaljack.....

[scott2007nomad]

I especially "liked" this quote: "One intangible that you'll NEVER get with the Kawi is pride of ownership.".

Ha!

[Dave]

Here's some canon fodder for all of you.

What Sonny Barger wrote in one of his books.

"....In 1957, it was either ride a Harley or settle for a Triumph or BSA. They'd already stopped building Indians. It's always been important for Hell's Angels to ride American-made machines. In terms of pure workmanship, personally I don't like Harleys. I ride them because I'm in the club, and that's the image, but if I could I would seriously consider riding a Honda ST 1100 or a BMW. We really missed the boat not switching over to the Japanese models when they began building bigger bikes. I'll usually say, "f**k Harley-Davidson. You can buy an ST 1100 and the motherf**ker will do 110 miles per hour right from the factory all day long." The newest "rice rockets" can carry 140 horsepower to the rear wheel, and can easily do 180 miles per hour right our of the box. While it's probably too late to switch over now, it would have been a nice move, because Japanese bikes today are so much cheaper and better built. However, Japanese motorcycles don't have as much personality."

[ponch]

Originally Posted by Dave

Here's some canon fodder for all of you.

What Sonny Barger wrote in one of his books.

"....In 1957, it was either ride a Harley or settle for a Triumph or BSA. They'd already stopped building Indians. It's always been important for Hell's Angels to ride American-made machines. In terms of pure workmanship, personally I don't like Harleys. I ride them because I'm in the club, and that's the image, but if I could I would seriously consider riding a Honda ST 1100 or a BMW. We really missed the boat not switching over to the Japanese models when they began building bigger bikes. I'll usually say, "f**k Harley-Davidson. You can buy an ST 1100 and the motherf**ker will do 110 miles per hour right from the factory all day long." The newest "rice rockets" can carry 140 horsepower to the rear wheel, and can easily do 180 miles per hour right our of the box. While it's probably too late to switch over now, it would have been a nice move, because Japanese bikes today are so much cheaper and better built. However, Japanese motorcycles don't have as much personality."

He's pretty much on the money. It's much the same way with police bikes. Tradition. If they've always used X, they'll probably always use X, unless they get forced to change. As far as personality, he's got a point there, but does it matter? Or is it in the eye of the beholder? I think Kawasaki has more soul than lets say, a Honda. Honda's usually have an appliance likeness to them. Built well and all, but they don't really stir any emotion. YMMV.

[waterman]

Originally Posted by cactusjack

Some of those guys are real neanderthals and their idiotic statements only underscore their glaring ignorance.

That is one thing I do hate with some riders and HD doesn't have a corner on the market either. If your on 2 wheels - Have fun.

[cajun2wheels]

Darn!!!I went there and found out my Nomad has no "soul".What am I gonna do?

[blowndodge]

Joel,,,,,,, are you referring to BMW riders as well???

[ponch]

Originally Posted by Blowndodge "Darksider"

Joel,,,,,,, are you referring to BMW riders as well???

Well, BMWs do have soul, but it's a stoic germanic kind of thing. ;)

[dank]

[quote author=ponch I think Kawasaki has more soul than lets say, a Honda. Honda's usually have an appliance likeness to them. Built well and all, but they don't really stir any emotion. YMMV. [/quote]

Ponch, I won't claim my Honda has soul, but roll on the throttle and that glorious V4 sure stirs mine!

[dank]

Originally Posted by ponch

Well, BMWs do have soul, but it's a stoic germanic kind of thing. ;)

Here in the US we call that prissiness!