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Old 07-28-2010, 08:36 PM   #1
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Who voted to give social security to illegal alien


THERE ARE QUITE A FEW NAMES WITH R's BEHIND THEM, THIS ONLY SHOWS THE NEED TO NOT RE-ELECT ANY INCUMBENTS , NO MATTER WHAT PARTY THEY BELONG TO, THERE'S NOT MUCH DIFFERENCE IN EITHER ONE, CLEAN OUT ALL THAT "EXPERT EXPERIENCE".










Who voted?




----- WHO VOTED "NO" TO MAKE ENGLISH OUR OFFICIAL LANGUAGE? - WHO VOTED "YES" TO GIVE ILLEGALS SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS?
Don’t forget. November 2 is “Take out the trash day” !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




The following senators voted against making English the official language of America : (Republicans are in red)


Akaka (D-HI)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Dayton (D-MN)
Dodd (D-CT)
Domenici (R-NM)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Obama (D-IL)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Wyden (D-OR)


Now, the following are the senators who voted to give illegal aliens Social Security benefits. They are grouped by home state. If a state is not listed, there was no voting representative.


Alaska : Stevens (R)
Arizona : McCain (R)
Arkansas : Lincoln (D) Pryor (D)
California : Boxer (D) Feinstein (D)
Colorado : Salazar (D)
Connecticut : Dodd (D) Lieberman (D)
Delaware : Biden (D) Carper (D)
Florida : Martinez (R)
Hawaii : Akaka (D) Inouye (D)
Illinois : Durbin (D) Obama (D)
Indiana: Bayh (D) Lugar (R)
Iowa: Harkin (D)
Kansas: Brownback (R)
Louisiana: Landrieu (D)
Maryland: Mikulski (D) Sarbanes (D)
Massachusetts: Kennedy (D) Kerry (D)
Montana: Baucus (D)
Nebraska: Hagel (R)
Nevada: Reid (D)
New Jersey: Lautenberg (D) Menendez (D)
New Mexico: Bingaman (D)
New York: Clinton (D) Schumer (D)
North Dakota : Dorgan (D)
Ohio : DeWine (R) Voinovich(R)
Oregon : Wyden (D)
Pennsylvania : Specter (D)
Rhode Island : Chafee (R) Reed (D)
South Carolina : Graham (R)
South Dakota : Johnson (D)
Vermont : Jeffords (I) Leahy (D)
Washington : Cantwell (D) Murray (D)
West Virginia : Rockefeller (D), by Not Voting
Wisconsin : Feingold (D) Kohl (D)


THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF THE UNITED STATES NEEDS TO KNOW THIS INFORMATION.....UNLESS THEY DON'T MIND SHARING THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY WITH FOREIGN WORKERS WHO DIDN'T PAY A DIME INTO IT.
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Old 07-28-2010, 08:52 PM   #2
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While I hear what you are saying... the truth is only 1/3 of the second list is "R's" and not even 1% of the first list is "R's".

Based on your opening statement to the post, I was expecting to see a much higher number... so, I'll remain committed to the fact the "D's" are mostly the culprit here. :)
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Old 07-28-2010, 09:39 PM   #3
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That may have been what Mike was saying GL. I know there weren't many Republicans listed. I do agree that we need to take the trash out come November.
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:39 PM   #4
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Dont remember who posted this but I saved it when I saw it (whomever did....thanks)..... Want some facts check these out.
#4 is my favorite one for why is Social Security going broke.... thank Johnson and the Democrats for putting it into a "Social slush fund".
Sound similar to what Obama and the Democrats have done with the "Stimulus" money??? Guess what guys we are getting hosed again!!

The pieces have been being put into place for DECADES and now under Obama they are trying to pull CHECK MATE on us.

Social Security


Your Social Security


Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (& some older ones) didn't know this. It's easy to check out, if you don't believe it.
Be sure and show it to your kids. They need a little history lesson on what's what and it doesn't matter whether you are Democrat or Republican.. Facts are Facts!!!



Our Social Security

Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social
Security (FICA) Program. He promised:

1.) That participation in the Program would be
Completely voluntary,


No longer Voluntary



2.) That the participants would only have to pay
1% of the first $1,400 of their annual
Incomes into the Program,


Now 7.65%



3.) That the money the participants elected to put
into the Program would be deductible from
their income for tax purposes each year,


No longer tax deductible



4.) That the money the participants put into the
independent 'Trust Fund' rather than into the
general operating fund, and therefore, would
only be used to fund the Social Security
Retirement Program, and no other
Government program, and,


Under Johnson the money was moved to


The General Fund and Spent



5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees
would never be taxed as income.


Under Clinton & Gore


Up to 85% of your Social Security can be Taxed



Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are
now receiving a Social Security check every month --
and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of
the money we paid to the Federal government to 'put
away' -- you may be interested in the following:

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----

Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the
independent 'Trust Fund' and put it into the
general fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically
controlled House and Senate.

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --

Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax
deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?

A: The Democratic Party.

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -----

Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social
Security annuities?

A: The Democratic Party, wit h Al Gore casting the
'tie-breaking' deciding vote as President of the
Senate, while he was Vice President of the US

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

Q: Which Political Party decided to start
giving
annuity payments to immigrants?

AND MY FAVORITE:

A: That's right!


Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party.
immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65,
began to receive Social Security payments! The
Democratic Party gave these payments to them,
even though they never paid a dime into it!

------------ -- ------------ --------- ----- ------------ --------- ---------

Then, after violating the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!

And the worst part about it is uninformed citizens believe it!


If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of
awareness will be planted and maybe changes will
evolve. Maybe not, some Democrats are awfully
sure of what isn't so.

But it's worth a try. How many people can YOU send this to?

Actions speak louder than bumper stickers.


AND CONGRESS GIVES THEMSELVES 100% RETIREMENT FOR ONLY SERVING ONE TERM!!!



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Quote:
Originally Posted by NriderUSA
Dont remember who posted this but I saved it when I saw it (whomever did....thanks)..... Want some facts check these out.
#4 is my favorite one for why is Social Security going broke.... thank Johnson and the Democrats for putting it into a "Social slush fund".
Sound similar to what Obama and the Democrats have done with the "Stimulus" money??? Guess what guys we are getting hosed again!!

The pieces have been being put into place for DECADES and now under Obama they are trying to pull CHECK MATE on us.

Social Security


Your Social Security


Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (& some older ones) didn't know this. It's easy to check out, if you don't believe it.
Be sure and show it to your kids. They need a little history lesson on what's what and it doesn't matter whether you are Democrat or Republican.. Facts are Facts!!!



Our Social Security

Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social
Security (FICA) Program. He promised:

1.) That participation in the Program would be
Completely voluntary,


No longer Voluntary



2.) That the participants would only have to pay
1% of the first $1,400 of their annual
Incomes into the Program,


Now 7.65%



3.) That the money the participants elected to put
into the Program would be deductible from
their income for tax purposes each year,


No longer tax deductible



4.) That the money the participants put into the
independent 'Trust Fund' rather than into the
general operating fund, and therefore, would
only be used to fund the Social Security
Retirement Program, and no other
Government program, and,


Under Johnson the money was moved to


The General Fund and Spent



5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees
would never be taxed as income.


Under Clinton & Gore


Up to 85% of your Social Security can be Taxed



Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are
now receiving a Social Security check every month --
and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of
the money we paid to the Federal government to 'put
away' -- you may be interested in the following:

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----

Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the
independent 'Trust Fund' and put it into the
general fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically
controlled House and Senate.

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --

Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax
deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?

A: The Democratic Party.

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -----

Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social
Security annuities?

A: The Democratic Party, wit h Al Gore casting the
'tie-breaking' deciding vote as President of the
Senate, while he was Vice President of the US

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

Q: Which Political Party decided to start
giving
annuity payments to immigrants?

AND MY FAVORITE:

A: That's right!


Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party.
immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65,
began to receive Social Security payments! The
Democratic Party gave these payments to them,
even though they never paid a dime into it!

------------ -- ------------ --------- ----- ------------ --------- ---------

Then, after violating the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!

And the worst part about it is uninformed citizens believe it!


If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of
awareness will be planted and maybe changes will
evolve. Maybe not, some Democrats are awfully
sure of what isn't so.

But it's worth a try. How many people can YOU send this to?

Actions speak louder than bumper stickers.


AND CONGRESS GIVES THEMSELVES 100% RETIREMENT FOR ONLY SERVING ONE TERM!!!



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Granted FICA is a Government enforced Ponzi scheme. However, this list of sins has been distributed a long time in emails. Most of it is myth.

Check http://www.ssa.gov/history/InternetMyths.html

When in a debate of ideas it's best to have accurate information to eliminate any impact you may have being lost because of inaccurate info.
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Good point and good sight with good info, but.....they pick the part of the sentence they want to address and ignore the parts they cannot. This does not dispell much although it does some.

They use the terms at the beginning of their explanations (spin aways) like:

"The idea here is basically correct" is the start of the topic...then they use spin tactics to explain why it really isnt.

Followed in the same paragraph is "Starting in 1969 (due to action by the Johnson Administration in 1968) the transactions to the Trust Fund were included in what is known as the "unified budget."
Which does confirm that part.

"Originally, Social Security benefits were not taxable income" then go on to spin how "BUT" can be used to make that not so. Followed by "In 1983 Congress changed the law by specifically authorizing the taxation of Social Security benefits"

"The figure was never $,1400, and the rate was never fixed for all time at 1%" but it was in truth "The tax rate in the original 1935 law was 1% each on the employer and the employee, on the first $3,000 of earnings" and has been increasing since.

Just as the administrations now have the right "since they voted to make their pay raises automatic" after sh*t hit the fan cause they voted themselves a raise during hard times..... they can now spin it with "the fact is they dont vote themselves pay raises".... when in fact they moved the pieces into place that they no longer have to.....

The point of my post..... Social Security would not be broke if it had not been turned into a Social Slush fund for special interests that couldnt come up with money...... That is FACT!!

My appoligies for any inaccuracies in the list.

Like you said, its best to have accurate information.... so eliminating the questionable "facts" still leaves undeniable facts to debate.

And just like the undeniable facts then, we are facing them now with the Liberal....."Well what our founders really meant to say was" or "Arizona is stepping outside the guidlines by trying to enforce the Federal laws we dont want to enforce" or...........need I go on???

And this is not a defense of the Republicans thing... this is just what it looks like. Democrats are doing the do-do dance on us and getting away with it and that includes the RINO's who should in fact change their party affiliations to that which they believe in so much.




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