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Old 06-21-2010, 09:05 PM   #1
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Who is in Charge

A reasonable question has been raised over the BP oil spill – Who is in “charge”? The answer is simple and straight forward. From Day One, the Obama Administration has been 100% responsible. The question is when was “Day One”?
Day One occurred when Obama’s Department of Interior, through its Office of Mineral Mining Services, received BP’s permit requesting permission to drill.

That’s right; the Obama Administration had to approve the drilling plans of BP BEFROE they could start drilling. The BP permit request was approved with a “category exclusion”. What that means is very little if any environmental, safety or accident response issues and capabilities were review before Obama Administration said “drill baby drill”!! Sarah Palin may have said it, but Obama did it!

The Obama Administration was in charge from Day One of that there is no question. It was not left over Bush officials that did not require any significant review of the permit. It was not left over Bush officials that basically rubber stamped the BP request to drill. It was in fact officials appointed by President Obama who said,” Drill BP drill”.

Some folks are saying the same thing would have happened under the Bush Administration. And, that is a nice theory. But the fact is it occurred under the President who claimed he would not “conduct politics as usual”. Under a President who came to power saying “change you can believe in”. It occurred under a President whom many have called the “Environmental President”.

It has been widely reported that of all those running for President in the last Presidential primaries and the general elections, candidate Obama received more money from BP than any other person running for President.

So, Obama takes BP money. Then, Obama’s appointed Officials rubber stamp BP’s drilling permit. And, some of you still want to blame Bush! You can only do that if you do not want to deal with the facts.

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Old 06-21-2010, 09:46 PM   #2
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Dang, you almost make it sound like Obama was out on the rig drilling for oil himself ??? It is almost humorous to see the animosity regarding Obama and the oil industry 'contributions' and placing blame on the president for the leak but no mention of similar concerns on a previous administration who has been quoted as saying "You can't get too close to the oil industry." The fact it hasn't happened until now, we have only been lucky!

Yeah, it was bound to happen regardless who was president at the time and the only thing that surprises me is that it hasn't happened sooner... look at what they are doing... drilling more than a mile deep, a mile under water... what could possibly go wrong??? Until the money is taken out of politics, nothing will change.

Regarding the amounts of his contributions, copy from a recent article:

So far in 2010, the oil and gas industries have contributed $12.8 million to all candidates, with 71% of that money going to Republicans. During the 2008 election cycle, 77% of the industry’s $35.6 million in contributions went to Republicans, and in the 2008 presidential contest, Republican candidate Sen. John McCain received more than twice as much money from the oil and gas industries as Obama: McCain collected $2.4 million; Obama, $898,000.

Looking at that last line, thank goodness Obama was elected, otherwise we might have had more than the one rig explode and be pumping crude into the gulf following the above logic

 
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Old 06-21-2010, 09:53 PM   #3
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Have to agree with what you both say. It could have happened under any president. But it happened under Obama's watch. We need the oil so we can stop depending on the Arab countries. But we just need to be really careful. The sad thing about this is that everyone keeps talking about the oil and the mess it is creating. No one seems concerned about the people that were doing their job and lost their life.
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Old 06-21-2010, 11:28 PM   #4
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Until we can get out of this He did it first or he did it more state of mind and get down to the fact that Even if Manson killed all those people... doesnt make killing ok cause some one only killled a couple of people.
My drift is I been listening to well Bush did it first or If Chaney hadnt or this is different excuses till I'm sick of it.

I just want honest straight forward answers... not tap dancing BS.

If the CEO is in sh*t for yachting during this catastrophe..... then Obama should be too for golfing. I dont want to hear that Bush golfed 8 times but Obama has golfed 10 or whatever.

We as a country are being towed around by our noses on BS that doesnt mean anything.....the fact is if its wrong its wrong..... I have heard a lot latley "Well its not really ethical but it is legal"
WTF does that mean? It means they have passed laws that allow them to lie, Not answer questions, steal, hide money manipulation etc etc etc..... its unethical, its not moral...but its legal so its OK.

They are like magicians.... they say look over there its Elvis...everyone looks and the pick your pocket and then say well.... technically you werent looking so you cant prove it and under the little know clause for politicans... we can do it anyway.

NAme one politican that isnt a millionare on a salary that doesnt add up to what they are worth.
How do you think they do that??
They keep us running around with look over there, no look over there, no look over there... while they are making a fortune while we are looking over there.
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Old 06-22-2010, 12:56 PM   #5
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Ref - BP (Barracks Problem)

Yep, they are drilling a mile deep because "we" (the collective we) will not allow them to drill in 200 feet of water where this blow out could have been controlled w/i a day or two. Yep, in our overpowering demand for oil we have pushed the oil industry to mine at the very limits of safely doing so.

But, anyway you cut it, the BO team issued the permit and they did it with out any significant environmental or safety review. Remember, "change you can believe in"? Well, in this case (and most others of significances) there was no "change". Or, if you will, the "change" went into BO campaign pockets.

Now, if this had been the case in the Bush yrs, the left cost and all the libs in the east would have gone bonkers. But, they give BO a pass.

But, all in all, I was glad to see BO relaxing this weekend by playing golf. He might be good at that.

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Old 06-22-2010, 04:27 PM   #6
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"The buck stops here." That saying was once on the desk in the oval office, it might not be there now, but it still applies.

Barrack is the worst president this country has ever had.
 
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Tombstone, I completely agree with you. All the idiots that voted for change, well they have change alright.

Once upon a time we had presidents that cared about this country but no more. All any politician wants is to line his pockets with gold and to make the Republican Party or the Democratic Party look good. To hell with the people what's good for the party is all that matters.

Why would anyone run for office whether it be a governor, senator, congressman or president and spend more than the pay will be for four or six years in office. I know most of these guys don't pay out of their pocket as there are too many companies willing to do that for them. Then expect favors if that person happens to get elected. Money is the grease that makes the political wheel go round.
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yep, 500 million spent to get a position that pays 256 thousand a year........ makes sense to me, hmmmmmm, guess that falls in line with the spend trillions when you only have billions.
Seems to be the mantra of our government..... especially now that the loons are running the insane asylum.
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