Running Rich - Poor MPG

signal40 · 04-19-2013, 12:53 AM

I bought my 07 1600 with V&H Baggers, single side open filter intake, and a V&H FuelPak FI tuner. In my opinion, the bike is running rich. At stop lights, idle, etc you can smell that it's fat. Plus the inside of the exhaust is black as the ace of spades. You can't touch it without looking like you stuck your finger in charcoal soot. And finally, I'm LUCKY to get 28-30 MPG. I've emailed V&H and tried the setup the recommended for the FuelPak and got no improvement. DO I need a different tuner? Any other suggestions??

cactusjack · 04-19-2013, 01:28 AM

The V&H FuelPak is probably the least user-friendly tuner I have ever seen. Way too complex for most people. You really have to know what you're doing to properly dial one in.

I'd disconnect it and ride the bike for a few days and see if there is any change. It won't hurt anything.

blowndodge · 04-19-2013, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cactusjack

The V&H FuelPak is probably the least user-friendly tuner I have ever seen. Way too complex for a dipshit like me! You really have to know what you're doing to properly dial one in and I don't

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I figured as much

dshelly · 04-19-2013, 08:37 AM

Check out this new one from Dobeck Performance. You can adjust it as you ride. Just have to put a o2 sensor in the exhaust pipe.

http://www.dobeckperformance.com/GEN...technology.asp

smbke · 04-19-2013, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dshelly

Check out this new one from Dobeck Performance. You can adjust it as you ride. Just have to put a o2 sensor in the exhaust pipe.

http://www.dobeckperformance.com/GEN...technology.asp

Is it true that with the Dobeck you lose the stored information every time you shut off the ignition and the unit has to "relearn" on every ride?

**ringadingh** · 04-19-2013, 10:49 AM

Perhaps try scrubbing out the throttle body first with carb cleaner before you make any changes. My bike used to smell rich with sooty pipes when it got dirty, after cleaning I'd be in the low 40's for mpg.

dshelly · 04-19-2013, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by smbke

Is it true that with the Dobeck you lose the stored information every time you shut off the ignition and the unit has to "relearn" on every ride?

Nope

johnberryus · 04-19-2013, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dshelly

Check out this new one from Dobeck Performance. You can adjust it as you ride. Just have to put a o2 sensor in the exhaust pipe.

http://www.dobeckperformance.com/GEN...technology.asp

So if I'm reading this right you can add this to any fuel processor , such as my PCIII? Do you need two O2 sensors with the true dual setup?

dshelly · 04-19-2013, 01:08 PM

No it relplaces the PCIII. As far as the o2 sensors, I think you only need 1, but don't quote me on that.

04-19-2013, 12:53 AM	#1
signal40 Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Greenfield, IN Posts: 87	Running Rich - Poor MPG I bought my 07 1600 with V&H Baggers, single side open filter intake, and a V&H FuelPak FI tuner. In my opinion, the bike is running rich. At stop lights, idle, etc you can smell that it's fat. Plus the inside of the exhaust is black as the ace of spades. You can't touch it without looking like you stuck your finger in charcoal soot. And finally, I'm LUCKY to get 28-30 MPG. I've emailed V&H and tried the setup the recommended for the FuelPak and got no improvement. DO I need a different tuner? Any other suggestions?? __________________ Jason Myer VBA #02221 Myer's Music DJ & Sound "Raising music & sound to a whole new decibel..." http://www.myersmusicdjandsound.com Login or Register to Remove Ads
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04-19-2013, 01:28 AM	#2
cactusjack Mega-Contributor Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Where it doesn't snow...ever! Posts: 21,926	The V&H FuelPak is probably the least user-friendly tuner I have ever seen. Way too complex for most people. You really have to know what you're doing to properly dial one in. I'd disconnect it and ride the bike for a few days and see if there is any change. It won't hurt anything. __________________ Scott "Cactusjack" Hanks VBA #00105 H.O.G. #4250060 2011 H-D Ultra Limited 103ci :: 2011 HD Electra Glide Ultra Limited w/Stage 1 :: Rallies: Mesquite '08\|Custer '09\|Cortez '10\|Crescent City '11\|Kanab '12\|Antlers '12\|Estes Park '13\|Antlers '13\|Orofino '14\|The Dalles '17
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04-19-2013, 08:37 AM	#4
dshelly Sr. Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Belgrade, MT Posts: 2,824	Check out this new one from Dobeck Performance. You can adjust it as you ride. Just have to put a o2 sensor in the exhaust pipe. http://www.dobeckperformance.com/GEN...technology.asp __________________ Dave "(dshelly)" Shellenberger 2014 Harley Ultra Classic 2007 1600 Nomad (Black) Shellenberger Machine Belgrade, MT Various Bagger Member (Harley Chapter) VBA # 2395
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04-19-2013, 10:49 AM	#6
ringadingh Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newmarket Ontario Canada Posts: 35,387	Perhaps try scrubbing out the throttle body first with carb cleaner before you make any changes. My bike used to smell rich with sooty pipes when it got dirty, after cleaning I'd be in the low 40's for mpg. __________________ 2002 Nomad aka Bountyhunter VBA #27 VROC #18951
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04-19-2013, 01:08 PM	#9
dshelly Sr. Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Belgrade, MT Posts: 2,824	No it relplaces the PCIII. As far as the o2 sensors, I think you only need 1, but don't quote me on that. __________________ Dave "(dshelly)" Shellenberger 2014 Harley Ultra Classic 2007 1600 Nomad (Black) Shellenberger Machine Belgrade, MT Various Bagger Member (Harley Chapter) VBA # 2395
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