Solenoid Modification

cajun2wheels · 09-25-2010, 08:00 PM

I was contemplating disconnecting the solenoid wires and had a thought.Has anyone installed a switch on the wires.You could activate the solenoids when cold starting and after warming up you could switch them off to avoid the clatter.Looks like the best of both worlds too me.Has anyone tried this?

**Cajunrider** · 09-25-2010, 08:07 PM

That sounds like a good plan using the 9" Spectre kit Steve. I've never seen it mentioned on here.

usranger74 · 09-25-2010, 08:11 PM

Where is this located - solenoid

And what is the down sided to removing it?

**Top Cat** · 09-25-2010, 08:16 PM

There are two and they are located behind the right side dog bowl.
The down side to unhooking them is the bike will not want to idle on cold starts.
That being said i unhooked mine and it runs and idles fine even on cold mornings.

**Cajunrider** · 09-25-2010, 08:16 PM

The two idle control solenoids are located on the intake plate behind the right side dog dish. Remove the dish and there is one on each side of the plate. Removing them makes cold idle a little rough for a minute or so. Nothing too bad. Many, including myself who have modified the intake have removed them. Some have unplugged them and left them in place with no mod.

cactusjack · 09-26-2010, 12:20 AM

Don't overthink this. Just pull the "choke" knob when you first fire it up and it should idle just fine without the solenoids. After a minute or two, push the knob in and go for a ride.

macmac · 09-26-2010, 10:17 AM

My ISC's have been off the bike since the 3rd day I owned the bike in June 06. They don't seem to make any noises at all in a cardboard box in the back of the cellar.

NH USA isn't exactly a hotter part of the world either, and I don't use that so called choke. I wonder if it will pull out. I might have done that back in 06 once.

I do hold the throttle slightly on a cold start. I can hear and feel the engine come into it's own in a few moments.

ridemslow · 09-26-2010, 12:30 PM

I've never used the choke. I have thought about doing the disconnect of the selonoids. I seen where one rider used a rubber hose to vent the air out of them to the other side of the bike,inside the air filter, and reported that it did quiet down the bikes clatter. I've never had trouble starting the bike even in zero temps.

rickyboy · 09-26-2010, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Cat (TC)

......... "i unhooked mine and it runs and idles fine even on cold mornings".

Me too T.C.!! I have heard about this "rough idling" when the solenoids are removed or disconnected, for a long time. Mine are out and I use the choke {like C.J. suggested}when I start it and let it run for a few/couple of minutes, and it runs and idles just fine.

fish · 09-26-2010, 02:53 PM

I thought about a switch also but it would be just something else that could go wrong for me. So I'm not screwing with a switch.
I was in the Catskills this morning and at 44* the bike started and ran on its own after maybe ten seconds of playing with the throttle.

usranger74 · 09-26-2010, 03:01 PM

So, I took the dog bowl off.

I see the two solenoids. Each with a tube coming off them and each with two wires attached to the bottom.

Can I just disconnect the wires? If so, what about the tubes?

**Cajunrider** · 09-26-2010, 03:29 PM

You can disconnect and tape up the end of 1 wire on each solenoid. This will disable them.

macmac · 09-26-2010, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajunrider

You can disconnect and tape up the end of 1 wire on each solenoid. This will disable them.

You can disconnect and tape up the end of 1 wire on each solenoid. This will disable them completely. This would be a test.

cactusjack · 09-26-2010, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by usranger74

So, I took the dog bowl off.

I see the two solenoids. Each with a tube coming off them and each with two wires attached to the bottom.

Can I just disconnect the wires? If so, what about the tubes?

You unplug the hoses from the two tubes just beneath the throttle body bores, then cap them with vacuum caps available at an auto parts store.

usranger74 · 09-26-2010, 08:13 PM

By reading above, I need to do two things.

1. I am going to disconnect one wire on each solenoid and tape the end.

2. Then I am going to disconnect the tubes just below the throttle openings and plug them.

09-25-2010, 08:00 PM	#1
cajun2wheels Advanced Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Alexandria La. Posts: 636	Solenoid Modification I was contemplating disconnecting the solenoid wires and had a thought.Has anyone installed a switch on the wires.You could activate the solenoids when cold starting and after warming up you could switch them off to avoid the clatter.Looks like the best of both worlds too me.Has anyone tried this? __________________ Login or Register to Remove Ads
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09-25-2010, 08:07 PM	#2
Cajunrider Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: (SE Louisiana) Posts: 8,340	Solenoid Modification That sounds like a good plan using the 9" Spectre kit Steve. I've never seen it mentioned on here. __________________ 2016 Electra Glide Ultra Limited CVO Palladium Silver / Phantom Blue 110 cu in SE 2012 Electra Glide Ultra Limited (Traded 6/22/16) Tequila Sunrise / HD Orange Vance & Hines true dual headers Rinehart 4" slip ons Screamin Eagle Super Tuner Screamin Eagle Stage 1 intake Dyno tuned H.O.G.# 4514015 2007 Nomad 1600 (Traded 6/23/12) VBA #482
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09-25-2010, 08:11 PM	#3
usranger74 Sr. Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: La Vista, NE Posts: 4,060	Solenoid Modification Where is this located - solenoid And what is the down sided to removing it? __________________ Bill (usranger74) Blake 2016 Goldwing VBA # 1505
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09-25-2010, 08:16 PM	#4
Top Cat Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Peoples Republic of New York State Posts: 15,154	Solenoid Modification There are two and they are located behind the right side dog bowl. The down side to unhooking them is the bike will not want to idle on cold starts. That being said i unhooked mine and it runs and idles fine even on cold mornings. __________________ Tim "TC" Conley VBA #9 2011 Victory Kingpin mine 2013 Victory Boardwalk -hers [LEFT][COLOR=#000000] [SIZE=4]
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09-25-2010, 08:16 PM	#5
Cajunrider Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: (SE Louisiana) Posts: 8,340	Solenoid Modification The two idle control solenoids are located on the intake plate behind the right side dog dish. Remove the dish and there is one on each side of the plate. Removing them makes cold idle a little rough for a minute or so. Nothing too bad. Many, including myself who have modified the intake have removed them. Some have unplugged them and left them in place with no mod. __________________ 2016 Electra Glide Ultra Limited CVO Palladium Silver / Phantom Blue 110 cu in SE 2012 Electra Glide Ultra Limited (Traded 6/22/16) Tequila Sunrise / HD Orange Vance & Hines true dual headers Rinehart 4" slip ons Screamin Eagle Super Tuner Screamin Eagle Stage 1 intake Dyno tuned H.O.G.# 4514015 2007 Nomad 1600 (Traded 6/23/12) VBA #482 Login or Register to Remove Ads
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09-26-2010, 12:20 AM	#6
cactusjack Mega-Contributor Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Where it doesn't snow...ever! Posts: 21,926	Solenoid Modification Don't overthink this. Just pull the "choke" knob when you first fire it up and it should idle just fine without the solenoids. After a minute or two, push the knob in and go for a ride. __________________ Scott "Cactusjack" Hanks VBA #00105 H.O.G. #4250060 2011 H-D Ultra Limited 103ci :: 2011 HD Electra Glide Ultra Limited w/Stage 1 :: Rallies: Mesquite '08\|Custer '09\|Cortez '10\|Crescent City '11\|Kanab '12\|Antlers '12\|Estes Park '13\|Antlers '13\|Orofino '14\|The Dalles '17
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09-26-2010, 10:17 AM	#7
macmac Sr. Contributor Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tamworth New Hampster 06 1600 Posts: 12,484	Solenoid Modification My ISC's have been off the bike since the 3rd day I owned the bike in June 06. They don't seem to make any noises at all in a cardboard box in the back of the cellar. NH USA isn't exactly a hotter part of the world either, and I don't use that so called choke. I wonder if it will pull out. I might have done that back in 06 once. I do hold the throttle slightly on a cold start. I can hear and feel the engine come into it's own in a few moments. __________________ 06 1600 Nomad Just call me Mac molon labe come and get it
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09-26-2010, 12:30 PM	#8
ridemslow Sr. Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Chesapeake, Ohio Posts: 1,537	Solenoid Modification I've never used the choke. I have thought about doing the disconnect of the selonoids. I seen where one rider used a rubber hose to vent the air out of them to the other side of the bike,inside the air filter, and reported that it did quiet down the bikes clatter. I've never had trouble starting the bike even in zero temps. __________________
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09-26-2010, 02:53 PM	#10
fish Top Contributor Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Aquashicola Pa. Posts: 6,377	Solenoid Modification I thought about a switch also but it would be just something else that could go wrong for me. So I'm not screwing with a switch. I was in the Catskills this morning and at 44* the bike started and ran on its own after maybe ten seconds of playing with the throttle. __________________ I'm not prejudice I hate everyone equally;) 08 nomad blue/silver MaryJane 74,010miles VBA #299 Her's 10 900LT 36,700 09 Bath NY. 10 Lake George NY. 11 National Maggie Valley NC. 12 Pa Wilds (Wellsboro) Pa. 14 Lincoln NH. 17 National Lake George NY.
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09-26-2010, 03:01 PM	#11
usranger74 Sr. Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: La Vista, NE Posts: 4,060	Solenoid Modification So, I took the dog bowl off. I see the two solenoids. Each with a tube coming off them and each with two wires attached to the bottom. Can I just disconnect the wires? If so, what about the tubes? __________________ Bill (usranger74) Blake 2016 Goldwing VBA # 1505
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09-26-2010, 03:29 PM	#12
Cajunrider Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: (SE Louisiana) Posts: 8,340	Solenoid Modification You can disconnect and tape up the end of 1 wire on each solenoid. This will disable them. __________________ 2016 Electra Glide Ultra Limited CVO Palladium Silver / Phantom Blue 110 cu in SE 2012 Electra Glide Ultra Limited (Traded 6/22/16) Tequila Sunrise / HD Orange Vance & Hines true dual headers Rinehart 4" slip ons Screamin Eagle Super Tuner Screamin Eagle Stage 1 intake Dyno tuned H.O.G.# 4514015 2007 Nomad 1600 (Traded 6/23/12) VBA #482
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09-26-2010, 08:13 PM	#15
usranger74 Sr. Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: La Vista, NE Posts: 4,060	Solenoid Modification By reading above, I need to do two things. 1. I am going to disconnect one wire on each solenoid and tape the end. 2. Then I am going to disconnect the tubes just below the throttle openings and plug them. __________________ Bill (usranger74) Blake 2016 Goldwing VBA # 1505
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