Clutch replacement

FTW2017 · 03-27-2020, 12:14 AM

[SIZE="4"getting ready to replace the clutch on my VN1500E classic seriously.thinking about the MS spring and retainer swap. using thses P/N's Any advise would be appreciated.]

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VulcanJeff · 03-27-2020, 04:25 PM

Most definitely go with the MS spring. I did with my 1500N Classic.

I have no experience with the holders.

TrapperAH1G · 03-27-2020, 05:24 PM

+1 on the MS spring. I changed my spring and all the plates in Aug. It was recommended to me that I use the '03 MS spring so that's what I ordered. Smoothest shifting of any bike I've ever owned now. My son went with the Bartlett spring and regrets doing so. Not sure what the "holders" are......limiter springs?

mick56 · 03-28-2020, 05:38 AM

As i understand it. All the springs are the same as the MS, and have been for a good few years.

VulcanJeff · 03-28-2020, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mick56

As i understand it. All the springs are the same as the MS, and have been for a good few years.

Beginning in 2006? Your post jogs the memory. There has been talk of this before on the forum.

redjay · 03-28-2020, 10:13 AM

I think it started with the 2005 1600's ?

mick56 · 03-28-2020, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by VulcanJeff

Beginning in 2006? Your post jogs the memory. There has been talk of this before on the forum.

Not sure on the date. But any that you buy today will be the same.

DragonLady58 · 03-28-2020, 11:41 AM

YES, the springs have been updated, also the spring engagement piece has also been redesigned....
If you were wanting a serious upgrade for the seriously hammering torque a mod'ed 1500/1600 engine can put out, you can go to a Barnett spring....though it will be somewhat stiffer even compared to the now inclusive Meanstreak spring thats widely avail.
The Barnett is pretty stiff at the clutch lever....put it like this, ain't no way in hell it'll ever slip unless theres a severe malfunction in the clutch basket....

FTW2017 · 03-28-2020, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DragonLady58

YES, the springs have been updated, also the spring engagement piece has also been redesigned....
If you were wanting a serious upgrade for the seriously hammering torque a mod'ed 1500/1600 engine can put out, you can go to a Barnett spring....though it will be somewhat stiffer even compared to the now inclusive Meanstreak spring thats widely avail.
The Barnett is pretty stiff at the clutch lever....put it like this, ain't no way in hell it'll ever slip unless theres a severe malfunction in the clutch basket....

S00 do i need to get the holder and MS retaining washer??

BrokeAss · 03-28-2020, 12:23 PM

Barnett FTW...
The clutch is hydraulic, so the added resistance at the lever just brings it into Harley specs. Unless you're limp-wristed it won't be an issue.

**MAS Tequila** · 03-29-2020, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mick56

Not sure on the date. But any that you buy today will be the same.

All of the 1600s use the Nomad/Classic spring.

The ONLY Kawa spring that is heavy duty is the 2002,2003 1500 MS spring.

DragonLady58 · 03-29-2020, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MAS Tequila

All of the 1600s use the Nomad/Classic spring.

The ONLY Kawa spring that is heavy duty is the 2002,2003 1500 MS spring.

Hey MAS, one of my buds at the local Kawa shop said that they were 'suppossed to' go with the heavier spring shortly after all the slipping and wear was put on the clutch parts, way back when. Did They?
Or did they just redesign that spring holder and call it good?
If that mechanic told me wrong, I wanna correct his ass....

mick56 · 03-29-2020, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MAS Tequila

All of the 1600s use the Nomad/Classic spring.

The ONLY Kawa spring that is heavy duty is the 2002,2003 1500 MS spring.

The bloke who is asking has a 1500 Classic. And as i said before, ALL of the springs that Kawasaki supply today, are the same spec as the early Meanstreak, and have been for some time..

FTW2017 · 03-29-2020, 04:39 PM

So just the MS spring not the retainer an washer as well??

mick56 · 03-29-2020, 06:28 PM

I cant read the part numbers on your post. Show me on here. https://www.kawasakioriginalparts.co...-E4&country=US

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VulcanJeff Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Galesburg, IL Posts: 309	Most definitely go with the MS spring. I did with my 1500N Classic. I have no experience with the holders. __________________ 2005 Vulcan 1600 Nomad - lovin' it! 2009 Vulcan 1700 Classic LT - gone, mostly forgotten 2005 Vulcan 1500 Classic FI - gone but not forgotten
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mick56 Sr. Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: The Newforest, England Posts: 4,664	As i understand it. All the springs are the same as the MS, and have been for a good few years. __________________ when this you see, remember me, and bear me in your mind, let all the world say what they may, speak of me as you find.
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DragonLady58 Sr. Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Somewhere South of Alaska.... Posts: 2,351	YES, the springs have been updated, also the spring engagement piece has also been redesigned.... If you were wanting a serious upgrade for the seriously hammering torque a mod'ed 1500/1600 engine can put out, you can go to a Barnett spring....though it will be somewhat stiffer even compared to the now inclusive Meanstreak spring thats widely avail. The Barnett is pretty stiff at the clutch lever....put it like this, ain't no way in hell it'll ever slip unless theres a severe malfunction in the clutch basket.... __________________ --------------------- Don't start no schit, there won't be no schit.... My Sarcasm is directly proportional to the amount of Stupidity involved --------------------- VBA#03239 VROC#37400 VRA --------------------- 2014 Vaquero 2001 Nomad FI 2003 Street Glide (sold) 1500 Meanie, fresh rebuild (sold) 90s BUBF Bobber (sold) 2001 UltraCycle FatPounder (Sold) 1975 HD ElectraGlide (Sold) 1982 Kawasaki Z1 Chopper (Sold) Suck It Up & Ride!
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BrokeAss Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Ohio Posts: 296	Barnett FTW... The clutch is hydraulic, so the added resistance at the lever just brings it into Harley specs. Unless you're limp-wristed it won't be an issue. __________________ '09 Nomad 1700 - Ivan's flash - Kuryakyn Alley Cat - V&H slip-ons - Triple hi/low beam H4 headlights - Desert Dawgs - Half the F&S Catalog
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mick56 Sr. Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: The Newforest, England Posts: 4,664	I cant read the part numbers on your post. Show me on here. https://www.kawasakioriginalparts.co...-E4&country=US __________________ when this you see, remember me, and bear me in your mind, let all the world say what they may, speak of me as you find.
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TrapperAH1G Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: West Central Washington Posts: 194	+1 on the MS spring. I changed my spring and all the plates in Aug. It was recommended to me that I use the '03 MS spring so that's what I ordered. Smoothest shifting of any bike I've ever owned now. My son went with the Bartlett spring and regrets doing so. Not sure what the "holders" are......limiter springs?
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redjay Top Contributor Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 6,942	I think it started with the 2005 1600's ?
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FTW2017 Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Henderson NV Posts: 103	So just the MS spring not the retainer an washer as well??
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