Pulling right

Eugene · 06-28-2018, 12:22 PM

Hi there!
I tried to drive my Voyager with cruise controle at about 80 km/h speed using no hands. As soon I released the handle bar the bike began to pull right. Aсtually she pulls right at any speed if I do not hold the handle bar. Has anybody noticed the same feature of one's Voyager? Or must she keep straight anyway? Thank you.

redjay · 06-28-2018, 12:56 PM

Too much money in your wallet :)

recumbentbob · 06-28-2018, 03:18 PM

You are not supposed to ride with no hands on the bars.

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rozie · 06-28-2018, 04:37 PM

ok,all kidding aside... it has to do with how your positioned on the seat. my bike does the same thing . try to lean just a bit to the left when you let go of the bars. the bike should track straight. as others have said, it's not a smart thing to do, but it can and has been done.

Eugene · 06-28-2018, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by recumbentbob

You are not supposed to ride with no hands on the bars.

Thanks for your concern. That was for a few seconds, just to check her stability. The motorcycle is supposed to be firm while rolling on the road. Isn't she? Haven't anybody here tried the Voyager's steadiness?

Eugene · 06-28-2018, 04:58 PM

Rozie, thank you for the opinion.

redjay · 06-28-2018, 06:02 PM

The bike should not pull to the right, or to the left.
Have you checked the tire for uneven wear ?
Do you have more stuff in the right side bag ?

Eugene · 06-28-2018, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by redjay

The bike should not pull to the right, or to the left.
Have you checked the tire for uneven wear ?
Do you have more stuff in the right side bag ?

Yes, everything is even. Redjay, you say "the bike should not pull to the right, or to the left". Is it your practical opinion on a Voyager's being stable on the even road with no hands on the handlebar?

dhuttonkc · 06-28-2018, 08:09 PM

Check the stem bearings for lube and tightnewss, check fork alignment, and then check the crown on those old Soviet Union roads.

then put your hands back on the handle grips.

Peg · 06-28-2018, 08:27 PM

As Don says - most likely the crown on the road. Down here in NZ my bike is more likely to drift off to the left. In right hand drive countries like Russia or USA, it's opposite. Your bike will always drift away downhill unless you adjust your weight to counterbalance it, and the roads are designed that way to shed water.

Eugene · 06-29-2018, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dhuttonkc

Check the stem bearings for lube and tightnewss, check fork alignment, and then check the crown on those old Soviet Union roads.

All is checked at the dealer's service center. The bike is almost new (3800 miles). As for the crown, the Voyager tends to pull right on a even parking lot also. I just examine the statistics on this phenomenon. Two owners here told me it was the Voyager's peculiarity, for they changed the stem bearings, checked much more but all the same the bike did not roll straight. So I'd like you to check your Voyagers, as we may conjecture long.

redjay · 06-29-2018, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Eugene

Yes, everything is even. Redjay, you say "the bike should not pull to the right, or to the left". Is it your practical opinion on a Voyager's being stable on the even road with no hands on the handlebar?

My Voyager did not pull to the right or to the left as far as I remember.
I had it for 3 years and sold it in 2014.

The only issue I had with the steering, which is a known issue, was the steering wobble on deceleration at around 40 kmph.

The cure for that is do not take both hands off the bars.

rick6375 · 06-29-2018, 09:52 AM

I can set my cruise and have taken my hands off the bars for a few seconds, maybe 10-15 seconds, and usually goes straight each time I've done this. I do not make a habit of it.

mbarr10 · 06-29-2018, 05:45 PM

I have done this on multiple bikes and for as far as 50+ miles. Not recommended But I have done it just to see If I can. Many issues with seat placement of my bottom. But I have found points that are acceptable and different on each bike. Still a lot of work to balance the machine going down the road. The centrifugal force is with you at speed. Yes, My hands were close to the bars. I think it is good to know these points to remove and replace your gloves, ECT. This Is ONLY MY RIDING STYLE. Butt I do not recommend it!! And never with a passenger!!! I know the risk, they should not have to know. I can be a Dumb ass By myself, and no one can stop me.

Glad to hear you are not having a shaking/Vibration. that is the good part.

**smokier** · 06-30-2018, 06:59 AM

MBarr, you make me laugh, in a good way!

IMHO, Load distribution, body position, would be the first two things I'd consider. I carry my laptop in the left saddlebag to offset the crown issue. Laptop and accessories are fairly heavy, so on truly flat roads shifting my weight to the right while taking a drink, lighting and smoking a cigg are sometimes necessary.
Yes, keeping your hands on the bars is very important. The good news is, I won't try or do the Indian Larry Death Dance...

Ride safe,
Smokier

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rozie Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: ontario canada Posts: 94	ok,all kidding aside... it has to do with how your positioned on the seat. my bike does the same thing . try to lean just a bit to the left when you let go of the bars. the bike should track straight. as others have said, it's not a smart thing to do, but it can and has been done. __________________ 2015 vulcan vaquero ABS SE mettalic carbon grey 12in. windshield grasshopper driver backrest oem aux lights ram mount for gps freedom performance true duals tank bra saddle bag chaps kuryakin longhorn cruise pedals black isso grips chucksters risers k&n air filter ivanized VBA#03256
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06-28-2018, 08:09 PM	#9
dhuttonkc Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 157	Check the stem bearings for lube and tightnewss, check fork alignment, and then check the crown on those old Soviet Union roads. then put your hands back on the handle grips. __________________ Don H Kansas City, MO area
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Peg Sr. Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: West Coast, North Island, New Zealand Posts: 1,375	As Don says - most likely the crown on the road. Down here in NZ my bike is more likely to drift off to the left. In right hand drive countries like Russia or USA, it's opposite. Your bike will always drift away downhill unless you adjust your weight to counterbalance it, and the roads are designed that way to shed water. __________________ Nothing screams poor workmanship like wrinkles in the duct tape '02 1500 blonde Nomad (Sold) '97 800 burgundy Classic (Sold)
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redjay Top Contributor Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 6,950	Too much money in your wallet :)
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Eugene Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 71	Rozie, thank you for the opinion.
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redjay Top Contributor Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 6,950	The bike should not pull to the right, or to the left. Have you checked the tire for uneven wear ? Do you have more stuff in the right side bag ?
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rick6375 Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: New Castle, In. Posts: 365	I can set my cruise and have taken my hands off the bars for a few seconds, maybe 10-15 seconds, and usually goes straight each time I've done this. I do not make a habit of it. __________________ 2005 800 Classic 2012 Voyager ABS
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06-29-2018, 05:45 PM	#14
mbarr10 Sr. Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 1,564	I have done this on multiple bikes and for as far as 50+ miles. Not recommended But I have done it just to see If I can. Many issues with seat placement of my bottom. But I have found points that are acceptable and different on each bike. Still a lot of work to balance the machine going down the road. The centrifugal force is with you at speed. Yes, My hands were close to the bars. I think it is good to know these points to remove and replace your gloves, ECT. This Is ONLY MY RIDING STYLE. Butt I do not recommend it!! And never with a passenger!!! I know the risk, they should not have to know. I can be a Dumb ass By myself, and no one can stop me. Glad to hear you are not having a shaking/Vibration. that is the good part. __________________ Please post back after you have solved any issues 2016 1700 Vaquero 10/4/2016 2007 1500 Classic W/ Reckless Fairing, 42,000 miles 2004 600 Honda Shadow 18,000 miles 1989 500 Honda CX Custom 55,000 miles 1973 400 Kawi Triple 5,000 miles Last edited by mbarr10; 06-29-2018 at 05:49 PM.
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06-30-2018, 06:59 AM	#15
smokier Join Date: May 2015 Location: DBQ Iowa Posts: 1,807	MBarr, you make me laugh, in a good way! IMHO, Load distribution, body position, would be the first two things I'd consider. I carry my laptop in the left saddlebag to offset the crown issue. Laptop and accessories are fairly heavy, so on truly flat roads shifting my weight to the right while taking a drink, lighting and smoking a cigg are sometimes necessary. Yes, keeping your hands on the bars is very important. The good news is, I won't try or do the Indian Larry Death Dance... Ride safe, Smokier __________________ You only get one, so "Make it the best day ever!" 2014 Victory Cross County Tour Blue Fire Gloss (BFG) "Cruella" Brides Ride: 2012 Victory Crossroads in Sunset Red "Ruby" Previous Vulcans: '15 Vaquero, '12 Vaquero, '10 1700 Nomad, '04 1500 Classic, '01 1500 Classic, '88 Vulcan 750 VROC # 10967 \| VBA # 3115
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