Odd Sound Makes Bike Unrideable

jimiro · 10-30-2017, 12:32 PM

Hi All,

I have a noise in my driveline when I let off the throttle that it a very loud whining sound. Similiar to being in too low of a gear for the speed you're moving at. It doesn't matter if I'm in gear or neutral. The sound is so loud it makes the bike unrideable, and I'm at a crossroads as what to do. Anybody ever come across this or have a clue as to what it might be?

Thanx

DragonLady58 · 10-30-2017, 12:46 PM

Its gonna be either your Angle drive (Bearing) coming outta your gear box, possibly even your final drive. But I've also seen it be your wheel bearings fixin' to fall out to a bad internal transmission support bearing.
You'll have to narrow to which one it actually is.
If its actually THAT LOUD, I would pull it down before it leaves you stranded somewhere or locks up and breaks something.
Its one thing to ride to diagnose a sound, its another to keep on riding hoping it'll quieten down.
When did this start? Have you ever serviced your driveshaft? Hows your oil level? Any leaks?

jimiro · 10-30-2017, 12:49 PM

2001 Nomad with 1500 Nomad Classic engine (need to check on year)
Carburated
70,000 mi's on bike ~ 50, 000 on engine

jimiro · 10-30-2017, 12:55 PM

Thanks for the quick reply DL
I was told my oil level was low when I brought it in for a clutch issue I had.
I did develop an oil leak shortly thereafter or during the sound occurring, which happened a month ago. As far as servicing the driveshaft, all I've done was have fluids replaced.

**BudMan** · 10-30-2017, 03:59 PM

Although it has not happened to me, if I'm not mistaken this sounds like the bevel gear bearing.

**MAS Tequila** · 10-30-2017, 08:55 PM

Yep, Front Bevel Gear bearing.

Be glad that it's whining and not thumping.

jimiro · 10-31-2017, 12:21 PM

Thanks for all the replies.
Sounds like it could be an expensive fix.
If so, I have a tough decision to make.

redjay · 10-31-2017, 12:29 PM

Get it fixed if you cant do it yourself.

DragonLady58 · 10-31-2017, 02:26 PM

You can rebuild your angel drive yourself, or take it off and take it in for rebuild ($200), or take your bike in and get it done....probably $450-500 if Kawa does it....
If you do it yourself keep everything operating room clean, be sure to take pics of how things come apart....Pay extreme Location to shim spacement.
If you do it yourself, its about $100 for gasket, seal, bearings, etc.....

**MAS Tequila** · 10-31-2017, 03:08 PM

There IS a lot of labor, but not a lot of expense in this repair.

Like DL said, get a new gasket from MaKaw, I get the bearings from the local bearing distributor for about $13.00 each.

Fresh oil and a new filter, two crush gaskets for the headers, and that's really all of the needed outlay of $$.

The rest is probably most of a day of labor if you halfway know your way around the toolbox.

alwhite00 · 10-31-2017, 05:47 PM

What causes the front bevel gear issues?

**voyager** · 10-31-2017, 07:39 PM

Simple check, pull your oil filter off, cut it open and check to see if the motor is making metal. If it is, then likely the bevel bearing as others have suggested.

mick56 · 11-01-2017, 01:42 PM

Hey MAAS.The gasket needed is part.11060,and the bearing,part 92045,is that right mate.Anything else need replacing ?

http://www.kawasakioriginalparts.com...-G2&country=GB

**MAS Tequila** · 11-02-2017, 05:35 AM

11060-1829 gasket
92045-1165 bearing
92045-1190 bearing every blue moon

The 1190 bearing is actually on the case not the front bevel gear, the trans output shaft rides on it.

I had it go bad on a 1600 one time.

I include it because it's easy to get to with the fbg cover off.

There is also the bearing on the 13101 or bevel gear shaft.

MaKaw doesn't sell that one individually, you have to buy the assembly at $717 US (today) or just press it off and get it, or all the needed bearings, at your local bearing supply distributor.

99 out of 100 times it is the 1165 bearing which is a Koyo ????.

I have the part number elsewhere, it's in another post here somewhere.

You can get it for a lot less if you get it locally, and it will be in stock, no waiting.

**MAS Tequila** · 11-02-2017, 05:53 AM

SKF 6305C2

SKF 6305ETN9

The 2nd bearing, if you can find it, is a little heavier duty.

The 1st is closer on the tolerances, but remove the side covers, they will pull off with a pick or small screw driver.

10-30-2017, 12:32 PM	#1
jimiro Jr. Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 6	Odd Sound Makes Bike Unrideable Hi All, I have a noise in my driveline when I let off the throttle that it a very loud whining sound. Similiar to being in too low of a gear for the speed you're moving at. It doesn't matter if I'm in gear or neutral. The sound is so loud it makes the bike unrideable, and I'm at a crossroads as what to do. Anybody ever come across this or have a clue as to what it might be? Thanx Login or Register to Remove Ads
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10-30-2017, 12:46 PM	#2
DragonLady58 Sr. Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Somewhere South of Alaska.... Posts: 2,351	Its gonna be either your Angle drive (Bearing) coming outta your gear box, possibly even your final drive. But I've also seen it be your wheel bearings fixin' to fall out to a bad internal transmission support bearing. You'll have to narrow to which one it actually is. If its actually THAT LOUD, I would pull it down before it leaves you stranded somewhere or locks up and breaks something. Its one thing to ride to diagnose a sound, its another to keep on riding hoping it'll quieten down. When did this start? Have you ever serviced your driveshaft? Hows your oil level? Any leaks? __________________ --------------------- Don't start no schit, there won't be no schit.... My Sarcasm is directly proportional to the amount of Stupidity involved --------------------- VBA#03239 VROC#37400 VRA --------------------- 2014 Vaquero 2001 Nomad FI 2003 Street Glide (sold) 1500 Meanie, fresh rebuild (sold) 90s BUBF Bobber (sold) 2001 UltraCycle FatPounder (Sold) 1975 HD ElectraGlide (Sold) 1982 Kawasaki Z1 Chopper (Sold) Suck It Up & Ride!
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10-30-2017, 12:49 PM	#3
jimiro Jr. Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 6	Specs for above bike 2001 Nomad with 1500 Nomad Classic engine (need to check on year) Carburated 70,000 mi's on bike ~ 50, 000 on engine
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BudMan Join Date: May 2009 Location: Greenwood, Ark. Posts: 4,736	Although it has not happened to me, if I'm not mistaken this sounds like the bevel gear bearing. __________________ Dave Jesse 2012 1700 Gray/Black Voyager 2006 1600 Nomad Green/Silver Sold VBA #1108 2010- Eureka Springs - Antlers - 2011- Maggie Valley - Antlers 2012- Margaritaville Ride - Van Buren - Antlers - 2013- Estes Park - Antlers 2014- Mountain View - Antlers - 2015- Eureka Springs - Antlers 2016- Salem - Antlers - 2017- Eureka Springs - Lake George - Antlers - 2018- Custer - Antlers Login or Register to Remove Ads
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10-30-2017, 08:55 PM	#6
MAS Tequila Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Psychiatric Ward FL Posts: 3,429	Yep, Front Bevel Gear bearing. Be glad that it's whining and not thumping. __________________ MT 2016 FLHP Psychiatric Ward FL VBA 936
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10-30-2017, 12:55 PM	#4
jimiro Jr. Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 6	Thanks for the quick reply DL I was told my oil level was low when I brought it in for a clutch issue I had. I did develop an oil leak shortly thereafter or during the sound occurring, which happened a month ago. As far as servicing the driveshaft, all I've done was have fluids replaced.
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10-31-2017, 12:21 PM	#7
jimiro Jr. Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 6	Thanks for all the replies. Sounds like it could be an expensive fix. If so, I have a tough decision to make.
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10-31-2017, 12:29 PM	#8
redjay Top Contributor Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 6,930	Get it fixed if you cant do it yourself.
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10-31-2017, 02:26 PM	#9
DragonLady58 Sr. Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Somewhere South of Alaska.... Posts: 2,351	You can rebuild your angel drive yourself, or take it off and take it in for rebuild ($200), or take your bike in and get it done....probably $450-500 if Kawa does it.... If you do it yourself keep everything operating room clean, be sure to take pics of how things come apart....Pay extreme Location to shim spacement. If you do it yourself, its about $100 for gasket, seal, bearings, etc..... __________________ --------------------- Don't start no schit, there won't be no schit.... My Sarcasm is directly proportional to the amount of Stupidity involved --------------------- VBA#03239 VROC#37400 VRA --------------------- 2014 Vaquero 2001 Nomad FI 2003 Street Glide (sold) 1500 Meanie, fresh rebuild (sold) 90s BUBF Bobber (sold) 2001 UltraCycle FatPounder (Sold) 1975 HD ElectraGlide (Sold) 1982 Kawasaki Z1 Chopper (Sold) Suck It Up & Ride!
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10-31-2017, 03:08 PM	#10
MAS Tequila Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Psychiatric Ward FL Posts: 3,429	There IS a lot of labor, but not a lot of expense in this repair. Like DL said, get a new gasket from MaKaw, I get the bearings from the local bearing distributor for about $13.00 each. Fresh oil and a new filter, two crush gaskets for the headers, and that's really all of the needed outlay of $$. The rest is probably most of a day of labor if you halfway know your way around the toolbox. __________________ MT 2016 FLHP Psychiatric Ward FL VBA 936
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10-31-2017, 05:47 PM	#11
alwhite00 Advanced Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 539	What causes the front bevel gear issues?
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10-31-2017, 07:39 PM	#12
voyager Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stony Plain, Alberta Posts: 694	Simple check, pull your oil filter off, cut it open and check to see if the motor is making metal. If it is, then likely the bevel bearing as others have suggested. __________________ Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.........Mark Twain.
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11-01-2017, 01:42 PM	#13
mick56 Sr. Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: The Newforest, England Posts: 4,664	Hey MAAS.The gasket needed is part.11060,and the bearing,part 92045,is that right mate.Anything else need replacing ? http://www.kawasakioriginalparts.com...-G2&country=GB __________________ when this you see, remember me, and bear me in your mind, let all the world say what they may, speak of me as you find.
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11-02-2017, 05:35 AM	#14
MAS Tequila Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Psychiatric Ward FL Posts: 3,429	11060-1829 gasket 92045-1165 bearing 92045-1190 bearing every blue moon The 1190 bearing is actually on the case not the front bevel gear, the trans output shaft rides on it. I had it go bad on a 1600 one time. I include it because it's easy to get to with the fbg cover off. There is also the bearing on the 13101 or bevel gear shaft. MaKaw doesn't sell that one individually, you have to buy the assembly at $717 US (today) or just press it off and get it, or all the needed bearings, at your local bearing supply distributor. 99 out of 100 times it is the 1165 bearing which is a Koyo ????. I have the part number elsewhere, it's in another post here somewhere. You can get it for a lot less if you get it locally, and it will be in stock, no waiting. __________________ MT 2016 FLHP Psychiatric Ward FL VBA 936
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11-02-2017, 05:53 AM	#15
MAS Tequila Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Psychiatric Ward FL Posts: 3,429	SKF 6305C2 SKF 6305ETN9 The 2nd bearing, if you can find it, is a little heavier duty. The 1st is closer on the tolerances, but remove the side covers, they will pull off with a pick or small screw driver. __________________ MT 2016 FLHP Psychiatric Ward FL VBA 936
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