Gas pump question

smokey · 06-15-2016, 04:53 PM

Not sure if anyone can answer this, but are we getting ripped off at the pumps when we use high test? I ask because most if not all pumps have the one hose and nozzle to dispense gas, unless they have a "suck back" system in place, it means that every time I fill up my voyager with premium, I get whatever is in the hose from the previous customer, which is usually regular which in turn contains ethanol, up here we pay by the litre, and it is normally 15 to 20 cents a litre more. The cost is not what concerns me as much as the ethanol and low premium gas I may be getting. It is not a big concern if I am putting a lot in but when I am just topping up it could be.

bladenbullet · 06-15-2016, 06:34 PM

life is unfair....not much one can do about it....

robjob · 06-15-2016, 10:15 PM

It can't be a lot we are getting. The one time I had to put regular in I had the pinging start within 30kms. Only time I have ever had that. So I doubt I am getting much regular gas each time.
On an odd note - Last Sunday I filled up twice with a dedicated high test pump. You can go months up here without running into one

**cnc** · 06-15-2016, 11:17 PM

I doubt there is that much fuel in the hose back to the pump, less than a litre I would think.

MrMikey · 06-16-2016, 01:48 AM

I took a guess that the hose is 3/4" diameter inside, 6' long it would hold approximately 1/8 of a gallon.....M

mick56 · 06-16-2016, 02:01 AM

Its like the electricity in a cable.You pay for it as soon as it passes the meter,then it travels all through the house,and out the back yard through the cable to the bench saw. If you switch it of at the meter,the saw stops dead,so does the meter,switch it back on and the saw starts,so does the meter.What happened to all the electricity in the cable that you allready paid for.

bladenbullet · 06-16-2016, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mick56

Its like the electricity in a cable.You pay for it as soon as it passes the meter,then it travels all through the house,and out the back yard through the cable to the bench saw. If you switch it of at the meter,the saw stops dead,so does the meter,switch it back on and the saw starts,so does the meter.What happened to all the electricity in the cable that you allready paid for.

little different story....but i like it....

Atom · 06-16-2016, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mick56

Its like the electricity in a cable.You pay for it as soon as it passes the meter,then it travels all through the house,and out the back yard through the cable to the bench saw. If you switch it of at the meter,the saw stops dead,so does the meter,switch it back on and the saw starts,so does the meter.What happened to all the electricity in the cable that you allready paid for.

I can't tell... are you being serious?

Atom · 06-16-2016, 11:29 AM

The pump hose is always full and contains roughly half a litre of fuel, so the first 500 millilitres will be whatever grade the last customer purchased.

caribou · 06-16-2016, 12:40 PM

I always kept a small bottle of octane booster on the bike in case the need arose. Needed it once or twice is all.

smokey · 06-18-2016, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Atom

The pump hose is always full and contains roughly half a litre of fuel, so the first 500 millilitres will be whatever grade the last customer purchased.

Thanks so nothing to be really concerned about, I guess the best bet is to fill up after the vulcan in front has get their tank filled LOL

**Jared** · 06-18-2016, 06:03 PM

It wont hurt the bike one bit.

MarkG · 06-20-2016, 06:29 PM

According to a Senior Investigator from Arizona Weights and Measures. Using the newer pumps starting in 2008, there will be one tenth (0.1) of a gallon from the previous purchase. The older pumps prior prior to 2008 would normally be 0.3 of a gallon. All four of the major pump manufacturers are within 0.1 of a gallon following the new rules.

denny 606 · 06-20-2016, 06:35 PM

If that's what you are worried about, use gas from pumps with multiple hoses, you get a lot less residual from the pump.

The multi hose pumps are becoming more scarce. But they are still better than the multi grade single hose pumps.

mick56 · 06-20-2016, 06:57 PM

All this panic over the virtues and vices of a mouthfull of + or- petrol,and still no logical answer to my more pressing electical question.

06-15-2016, 04:53 PM	#1
smokey Sr. Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Orleans, ON, Canada Posts: 1,162	Gas pump question Not sure if anyone can answer this, but are we getting ripped off at the pumps when we use high test? I ask because most if not all pumps have the one hose and nozzle to dispense gas, unless they have a "suck back" system in place, it means that every time I fill up my voyager with premium, I get whatever is in the hose from the previous customer, which is usually regular which in turn contains ethanol, up here we pay by the litre, and it is normally 15 to 20 cents a litre more. The cost is not what concerns me as much as the ethanol and low premium gas I may be getting. It is not a big concern if I am putting a lot in but when I am just topping up it could be. __________________ Smokey Capt(retd) Canadian Forces National President CVFR (Canadian Veteran Freedom Riders) 2010 VN1700 Voyager, ABS www.cvfr.ca VBA #02220 Login or Register to Remove Ads
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06-15-2016, 10:15 PM	#3
robjob Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Belleville, Ontario Posts: 347	It can't be a lot we are getting. The one time I had to put regular in I had the pinging start within 30kms. Only time I have ever had that. So I doubt I am getting much regular gas each time. On an odd note - Last Sunday I filled up twice with a dedicated high test pump. You can go months up here without running into one __________________ Lovin my 2010 Nomad Rob Woodall Canadian Motorcycle Cruisers 088 Picton VBA # 02445
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06-15-2016, 11:17 PM	#4
cnc Join Date: May 2009 Location: Montreal QC Posts: 12,034	I doubt there is that much fuel in the hose back to the pump, less than a litre I would think. __________________ Norm Ward 2008 blue / silver nomad kawanow / VBA #01136
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06-16-2016, 01:48 AM	#5
MrMikey Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 403	I took a guess that the hose is 3/4" diameter inside, 6' long it would hold approximately 1/8 of a gallon.....M __________________ '09 Voyager Login or Register to Remove Ads
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06-16-2016, 02:01 AM	#6
mick56 Sr. Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: The Newforest, England Posts: 4,664	Its like the electricity in a cable.You pay for it as soon as it passes the meter,then it travels all through the house,and out the back yard through the cable to the bench saw. If you switch it of at the meter,the saw stops dead,so does the meter,switch it back on and the saw starts,so does the meter.What happened to all the electricity in the cable that you allready paid for. __________________ when this you see, remember me, and bear me in your mind, let all the world say what they may, speak of me as you find.
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06-15-2016, 06:34 PM	#2
bladenbullet Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Southwestern Florida Posts: 115	life is unfair....not much one can do about it....
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06-16-2016, 11:29 AM	#9
Atom Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Lloydminster, Alberta Posts: 124	The pump hose is always full and contains roughly half a litre of fuel, so the first 500 millilitres will be whatever grade the last customer purchased. __________________ 2006 Vulcan Nomad 2003 Road Star Silverado SOLD
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06-16-2016, 12:40 PM	#10
caribou Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Bancroft,Id. Posts: 335	I always kept a small bottle of octane booster on the bike in case the need arose. Needed it once or twice is all. __________________ Tad "Caribou" Jensen VBA #1976 Bancroft,Idaho 2012 Electa Glide Classic 2003 Nomad FI(Past) _______________________________ I ain't never been lost, powerfull confused for a month or two, but never lost.
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06-18-2016, 06:03 PM	#12
Jared Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Greeley, Colorado Posts: 6,772	It wont hurt the bike one bit. __________________ Jared VBA #1051 (Former President)
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06-20-2016, 06:29 PM	#13
MarkG Sr. Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chandler, AZ Posts: 1,255	According to a Senior Investigator from Arizona Weights and Measures. Using the newer pumps starting in 2008, there will be one tenth (0.1) of a gallon from the previous purchase. The older pumps prior prior to 2008 would normally be 0.3 of a gallon. All four of the major pump manufacturers are within 0.1 of a gallon following the new rules. __________________ Mark Griffin 2021 Manhattan Metallic K1600GTL 2016 Silver K1600GTL - sold 2015 Red/Blk Cross Country Tour - sold 2008 Red/Blk Nomad - sold KE7HG VBA 00176, IBA 65686, MOA 211564 Mesquite '08\|Custer '09\|Cortez '10\|Maggie Valley '11\|Kanab '12\|Estes Park '13\|Red Lodge '16\|Custer '18
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06-20-2016, 06:35 PM	#14
denny 606 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Inez, KY Posts: 280	If that's what you are worried about, use gas from pumps with multiple hoses, you get a lot less residual from the pump. The multi hose pumps are becoming more scarce. But they are still better than the multi grade single hose pumps. __________________ "When all is said and done, there's usually more said than done" unknown "Ride hard or stay home" Joe Robinson aka Old Dog, R.I.P
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06-20-2016, 06:57 PM	#15
mick56 Sr. Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: The Newforest, England Posts: 4,664	All this panic over the virtues and vices of a mouthfull of + or- petrol,and still no logical answer to my more pressing electical question. __________________ when this you see, remember me, and bear me in your mind, let all the world say what they may, speak of me as you find.
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