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Old 05-31-2011, 06:59 AM   #1
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A couple weeks ago, I started a thread about an HD-Rider who did a very confident u-turn in a crowded, busy gas station. In the discussion, Ponch mentioned that highway driving doesn't necessarily transfer to slow-speed skills. That definitely applies to me. I CAN pull off some nice tight slow speed turns, but not dependably enough to have attempted one like the HD-Rider.

So I finally broke down and bought a Ride-Like-a-Pro DVD. I watched it and yesterday went out to a school parking lot to do some of the exercises. I've improved already and noticed a tendency that, because I seldom practiced with discipline, led to inconsistent tight turn results--which was why the HD-Rider stood out to me.

Yesterday, I had little problem with left turning. Right turns, however, fluctuated because my throttle control fluctuates when the right grip comes in close to my body, I keep less control on the gas than when my arm is extended on a left turn. I guess it's the angle of my wrist. Anyway, once aware of the issue, I started improving immediately.

I've picked up most of the Motorman's tips from YouTube clips previously, but having the full package and following the exercises worked very well.

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Old 05-31-2011, 07:33 AM   #2
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I also heartily endorse the Ride like a Pro video.
My next door neighbor had a couple of friends come down from Penn. to ride in Rolling Thunder with him. He has a small Harley that I have never seen him ride. (He bought it last October or so. On saturday they went out riding near the Blue Ridge. That evening I went over to his house and there he sat with a bruised and road rashed arm and a bike with a broken rear brake linkage. He skidded out on a curve and admits it was his lack of experience. I told him (again) about ride like a pro and the fact that he should go out with me to learn how to handle his bike before he goes with a more experienced group who just assume he can handle his bike. He now swears he is going to get the video (and maybe even buy some protective gear. But we will see.
 
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Old 05-31-2011, 07:47 AM   #3
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I also heartily endorse the Ride like a Pro video.
My next door neighbor had a couple of friends come down from Penn. to ride in Rolling Thunder with him. He has a small Harley that I have never seen him ride. (He bought it last October or so. On saturday they went out riding near the Blue Ridge. That evening I went over to his house and there he sat with a bruised and road rashed arm and a bike with a broken rear brake linkage. He skidded out on a curve and admits it was his lack of experience. I told him (again) about ride like a pro and the fact that he should go out with me to learn how to handle his bike before he goes with a more experienced group who just assume he can handle his bike. He now swears he is going to get the video (and maybe even buy some protective gear. But we will see.
It sounds like your neighbour didn't focus on where he wanted the bike to go, Always look where you want the bike to go, and it will. If you panick a bit and focus on the shoulder or where you don't want to go, you will end up there.
The Ride Like A Pro video explains a lot of those things and really helps you become a better rider.
The protective gear is also a great idea, he's lucky he didn't knock his melon on the ground or a tree during his mishap.
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Old 05-31-2011, 08:32 AM   #4
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Went to an OldTimer car show on Sunday and was heading back to my car when I hear a motorcycle coming...some guy on an apparently old Harley. He got his display paper and then headed up the road to an intersection where he made a U-turn....with his left foot down and a very wide arch. Ugh. The next day I ride the bike to the same spot and did the same thing and did the turn in half the space....yeah, that Ride Like a Pro is a really useful video and I've felt more confident in my abilities ever since I watched it and practiced somewhat. I certainly don't the the skills that they display in that video, but I don't embarrass myself either.
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Old 05-31-2011, 10:28 AM   #5
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A couple weeks ago, I started a thread about an HD-Rider who did a very confident u-turn in a crowded, busy gas station. In the discussion, Ponch mentioned that highway driving doesn't necessarily transfer to slow-speed skills. That definitely applies to me. I CAN pull off some nice tight slow speed turns, but not dependably enough to have attempted one like the HD-Rider.

So I finally broke down and bought a Ride-Like-a-Pro DVD. I watched it and yesterday went out to a school parking lot to do some of the exercises. I've improved already and noticed a tendency that, because I seldom practiced with discipline, led to inconsistent tight turn results--which was why the HD-Rider stood out to me.

Yesterday, I had little problem with left turning. Right turns, however, fluctuated because my throttle control fluctuates when the right grip comes in close to my body, I keep less control on the gas than when my arm is extended on a left turn. I guess it's the angle of my wrist. Anyway, once aware of the issue, I started improving immediately.

I've picked up most of the Motorman's tips from YouTube clips previously, but having the full package and following the exercises worked very well.

I recommend.
That's good to hear. I have been wanting that video, and it's nice to know it works.
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Old 05-31-2011, 05:27 PM   #6
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I got it before I got the Nomad. Once I got the Nomad, my first trip out was to a parking lot to practice the basics. It taught me a number of things, and I should practice more. It helps build my confidence in handling the bike.

I strongly recommend that every one view it at least once.
 
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Old 05-31-2011, 05:39 PM   #7
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I bought the "Ride like BD" video and now I ride just like him!!!

Everyone should practice Bob... I tried to convinced TomK to go to anaheim stadium and a off weekend and practice makine figure 8's and long sweeping turns in either direction so he'll know how far over the Nomad can go before he touches something.. He told me I was crazy and that his Nomad would slid out and crash!

Until you learn your bikes limits you'll never trust it when in an emergency like full lock up or going too fast into a turn....
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Old 05-31-2011, 05:51 PM   #8
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Not long after I got my Nomad, but after practicing, I went into a curve on a twistie way too hot. Forcing myself to keep my cool and not looking at the side of the mountain that was getting way too close, but turning my head and focusing around the curve, I scraped the floor boards, but cleared the curve with room to spare. While scraping the floor boards was a little startling, knowing the bike would handle it sure helped.

Had I not had the basics and followed thru it would have been a disaster.
 
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Old 05-31-2011, 06:23 PM   #9
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I would agree on the RLP videos. With practice your skills will improve immediately.

I would also suggest everyone take a Rider's Edge course at a local HD dealer. Yeah... it's at HD; but it is a top-notch course that will add additional skills RLP doesn't cover.

You will not be harassed at the course because you ride another brand bike. I have taken two classes there. There were plenty of other bike brands, and not a single harassing word was said. Everyone was there to learn, not harass.

I highly suggest it along with the RLP video set.
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Old 06-01-2011, 08:17 PM   #10
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The one thing much better than the video is actually taking one of the RLAP classes. My first long(ish) ride on the Nomad was to Michigan for a class with Gary the spring I got the Nomad (aware of my initial limitations). All of the exercises in the video are set up on a course and he was a great coach getting me to lean through the figure 8, turning my head and everything else discussed in the video.

Started out a little tentative for about the first hour but once I saw how to apply everything, and it worked, I was having a blast at the end of it and was sad to see it end. Did learn you can do full lock turns on the Nomad in the figure 8 and not worry about dropping it.

Nice thing is that I use most of what I was taught every time I go for a ride!!! Would love to see a group from Kawanow in that area get together for a class, I would take it again just for the guided practice!!!
 
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Old 06-02-2011, 04:06 AM   #11
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Sounds like a video I need to purchase. I tend to do everything safely and not push the limits. Need to give it a try.
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I bought the Ride-Like-a- Pro DVD last winter and was chaffing at the bit to get out and try the skills the demonstrate. Even bought a couple dozen tennis balls that I cut in half to set up my own course.

The DVD was great and very helpful; however what it did for me was show me how much I needed to improve. So a couple of weeks ago I took a course offered by Riders Training Institue in Toronto - Technical Skills. It was awesome and really helped me improve.

I too was very tentative, first was just the lack of skill, second was it was "pis**ng" rain all day and third was after the first hour my throttle grip broke and I had to do all the exercises while trying to keep it in place.

I am so glad it was raining because the instructors showed no mercy and I did things in the rain that I wouldn't have thought I could do on dry pavement. There were only 3 of us that showed up for the class and there was only one bike that dumped - not mine!

I heartly endorse both of these things for all riders - new and old alike.

Just my two cents worth... ;)
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I have the video, and it does show you how to make tight maneuvers with some practice. Every once in a while I watch it just to refresh a few things.
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I have the video, and it does show you how to make tight maneuvers with some practice. Every once in a while I watch it just to refresh a few things.
Well, it's not like you're going to run out and practice right now, is it?

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Sounds like a video I need to purchase. I tend to do everything safely and not push the limits. Need to give it a try.
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