V & H Fuel Pak

[bfancett]

Branching off of my earlier post about "So many pipes...", I have now been researching fuel management kits. I also read a post a few moments ago, about a member who's gas mileage dropped to 22MPG, and his Dyno PCIII may be the culprit.

Can anyone tell me if the Vance and Hines Fuel Pak is a quality product or what?

Also, I have absolutely no idea where the Nomads factory ECU is located at. The V & H Fuel Pak plugs directly into the facotry ECU.

Thanks,

Brian

[Netnorske]

Brian,
I have V&H pipes....a PCIII....and a simple K&N stock filter replacement. My mileage is between 34 and 39 depending on my load, road and trigger finger(s). I just cleaned my throttle bodies though so that might improve a tad....

[cactusjack]

I think there's one member here that has said he installed a V&H Fuel Pak. Most of us use either the Dobeck Techlusion TFI or the Cobra FI2000R. You'll find most of our expertise is with these 2 units.

[dhomoney]

I agree with Scott. I went with the TFI and it works great for me. No need to spend the extra money on the FuelPak. They don't have a map to what most of us run anyhow.

[bfancett]

Roger that! The cobra was my next pick. How do you hook these up? What is required to be removed from the bike?

Not sure how to get to the ECU yet.

Thanks,

Brian

[macmac]

The POWER COMMANDER PC III is a top notch device, so smart it can forget. To me that is a pain.. not a bad pain, but I do enough fixing I don't need more. That rig is for a computer head who likes puttering and doesn't care if the map gets lost.

One guy who was here, might still be here has the V&H fuel mod and njust maybe one other guy..

33 out of 35 settings, and no good way to diaganose any problems you may encounter, with out calling their tech help. Nothing on line so far as i can tell that says what these 33 of 35 settings are for.

The info sheet says set setting 1 at () and you do and then 32 more times. Then if there is a problem you call their techs.. Not my cup of tea.. I want to know why...

Do you self a favor unless you like messing with computers, and get a Cobra/ TFI.

If you get the Cobra Cj here is your guy. Get the TFI and I can be one of the your guys..

I don't know a thing about Cobra units.. I don't know if they have Plug n Play.

If you go that way with TFI then there is 2 connectors at the injectors, a ground and the hot lead going to the til lamp wire. That's it, and Cobra probably mimics that install.

[cactusjack]

Originally Posted by macmac

The POWER COMMANDER PC III is a top notch device, so smart it can forget. To me that is a pain.. not a bad pain, but I do enough fixing I don't need more. That rig is for a computer head who likes puttering and doesn't care if the map gets lost.

One guy who was here, might still be here has the V&H fuel mod and njust maybe one other guy..

33 out of 35 settings, and no good way to diaganose any problems you may encounter, with out calling their tech help. Nothing on line so far as i can tell that says what these 33 of 35 settings are for.

The info sheet says set setting 1 at () and you do and then 32 more times. Then if there is a problem you call their techs.. Not my cup of tea.. I want to know why...

Do you self a favor unless you like messing with computers, and get a Cobra/ TFI.

If you get the Cobra Cj here is your guy. Get the TFI and I can be one of the your guys..

I don't know a thing about Cobra units.. I don't know if they have Plug n Play.

If you go that way with TFI then there is 2 connectors at the injectors, a ground and the hot lead going to the til lamp wire. That's it, and Cobra probably mimics that install.

Yep, two connectors to the injectors and one to the negative battery post to hook up the Cobra.

[strobe]

Originally Posted by Brian ("Itinerant Man")

Branching off of my earlier post about "So many pipes...", I have now been researching fuel management kits. I also read a post a few moments ago, about a member who's gas mileage dropped to 22MPG, and his Dyno PCIII may be the culprit.

Can anyone tell me if the Vance and Hines Fuel Pak is a quality product or what?

The problem with the PCIII is simple, there is a possibility that the fuel map can be corrupted, as long as you back it up, you will never loose it, but as mac said it can be a pain.... It was my post that had the 22 mpg, and the fix was to simply download the map again (about 2 minutes work actually). I have had mine for a few years, and spirello, the other member that had a similar issue has had his for a long time as well and have never had this issue before, so it is not something I really worry about happening again any time soon.

I would stay away from the V&H fuel pack, mainly because like others have said there are so few people that have it getting help is difficult, go with what is out there, the TFI is most popular here by far and a good product, the PCIII is popular, but not as much here as on some other forums, and the cobra has had some good support here as well, but overall I have seen less of them than the other two. They all plug right into the system under the left side of the tank I believe, I did mine without even loosening the tank.

[nomadwest]

When I first put my V & H's on with no fi controller, I noticed the sound was kind of rough and erratic. I even thought about putting the stock ones back on. I decided to put the power commander lll module in and what a difference. Much smoother more even sound and better performance. Have had the controller on for about 5,000 miles and has performed perfectly. I have read problems with all of the different brands from a few people out there, but mine has worked flawlessly. Ordered mine thru cruiser customizing and they downloaded the map on it for my setup for free before shipping. Went with just the K&N filter and that added to the throttle response and power. I actually get better mileage especially out on the open road where I can average about 40. Personally they get a little annoying on the highway and am planning a baffle modification. The fit and finish on the exhaust is second to none.

[strobe]

BTW, I got my PCIII from FuelMoto, http://fuelmotousa.com/power_commander.htm. They have the best price I have seen on them and Jamie there is great to deal with. They will also load the closest map to your configuration on for you.

[chuckster131]

Hi Brian,
I have the TFI by Dobec, great addition and works superb. I have a friend that took the same unit off and will probally sell it, as he doesn't have the bike anymore.
I can ask him if he wants to let it go.

Originally Posted by Brian ("Itinerant Man")

Branching off of my earlier post about "So many pipes...", I have now been researching fuel management kits. I also read a post a few moments ago, about a member who's gas mileage dropped to 22MPG, and his Dyno PCIII may be the culprit.

Can anyone tell me if the Vance and Hines Fuel Pak is a quality product or what?

Also, I have absolutely no idea where the Nomads factory ECU is located at. The V & H Fuel Pak plugs directly into the facotry ECU.

Thanks,

Brian

[bfancett]

Well, I guess I can sum this up by saying that I will leave the V&H Fuel Pak alone and go with either the TFI or the Cobra.

Mac....FYI, I am a computer guy. I am a software engineer for the United States Army and other Department of Defense agencies. I basically do a lot of the same stuff that Trip does, and have been doing such for about 13 years now. However, because I do nothing but mess with computers all day long, it is the last thing I want to deal with at home, especially out on the road or when it comes to my bike period, so I will stear away from the Dyno...I think.

I am going to look at the cobra unit a little closer, it is also the least expensive from what I have seen. I will also take a closer look at the TFI modules.

Quick question. I assume that performance, even without new exhaust will be greatly increased by adding either one of these, correct? Also, if I installed it before putting on new pipes, what would I need to do after I installed new pipes?

Thanks again everyone for all the support.

Brian

[bfancett]

Also, Chuckster....please ask your buddy if he would sell it, and how much he would want for it. I am not far from you at all, so maybe we could meet up and do the install if you are willing to assist. I have yet to see another Nomad on the road, and it would be great to finally see one, especially somebody from this group.

Thanks,

Brian

[rewindgy]

PCIII - had nothing but troubles. Never found a map ( download) that worked well - always sucked fuel like no tomorrow! To get someone to Dyno the thing was a small fortune and then they didn't want to give up the map??? wtf! Know people who have them , they seem fine with them ( I didn't so maybe it's just me?) Got the Cobra, fiddled with it abit, thing works like a champ - if I want more power I just dial it up a tad - if I want to go back to economy - roll back the settings a tad. Surging - gone, Pulling power - up, front pipes - not blueing anymore, simplisity - totally.

[bfancett]

Alright, so I am looking at either the Dobeck TFI FI-2050ST (is this the correct one for the 2008 Nomad 1600?), or the Cobra Fi2000R Tripot Fuel Processor. In everyone's opinion, which is the better processor?

Thanks,

Brian