Guess I am a CHEAP SOB.

KURT44 · 03-10-2018, 12:53 PM

Have 50k on my 2012 Voyager. Have really enjoyed the bike. That being said, I keep looking at new bikes just because. Any of the newer bikes I look at: 2108 Gold wing, Road Glide, Indian Roadmaster, Yamaha Venture are just below or above the 30K price range. I think the electric windshield would be nice, had that on my ST1300. Other than that the infotainment center and heated grips and seat are the only things I don`t have now. Infotainment upgrade and heated seat mean nothing to me. Wouldn`t mind heated grips, but will probably add them sometime pretty cheap.
I could afford a new bike if I convinced the wife that I deserve one.

I just can see spending that much for 2 wheels when the riding and performance wouldn`t be much different. I guess that makes me a cheap SOB. I could buy a new car for close to that.

**Framer** · 03-10-2018, 01:12 PM

There’s a lot of us cheap SOB’s out there. I’ll never own a new bike unless I win the lottery and I don’t see that happening. When I wear out my Voyager I do think I’ll get a GW but who knows.

**Top Cat** · 03-10-2018, 04:36 PM

Just because your happy with the bike you have dosen't mean your cheap.
$30,000 for a motorcycle is crazy.

**buckey1313** · 03-10-2018, 04:45 PM

I cannot justify owning two wheels for 30 grand or up that is just crazy. I love the Indians would love one but the cost is just out of sight even if money was no object I cannot see spending that amount especially when I have just about as nice a bike out there I believe with my Nomad. The quality is there that is for sure as much as the others and the cost is not up there even new.

The other problem I would have with an Indian is their accessories packages and products are far to vast I know I have a accessory phobia that does not allow me to stop. So that is other reason I would not own an Indian or Harley.

I am very satisfied plus I have a bike that there is not allot of out there compared to the big name brands. I love that idea in itself I am different.

Now with Ivan's Mod I have done I can suck up any Harley or Indian on the road I am sure of that. I doubt if a stock Harley or Indian could touch me at all.

I am proud of my Nomad and be even more proud once it is back together in May and I am riding her again.

KURT44 · 03-10-2018, 08:33 PM

Yeah, I have decided to keep the Voyager. I really like it. Rode 70 miles today in 40 degrees. Nice and sunny. My hands didn't even get cold with my heavy winter gloves, guess I don't even need heated grips.

Chuck A. · 03-10-2018, 11:36 PM

I'm a cheap SOB myself for sure. I had been looking at the Voyagers for a few years but with teenage to college years killed the "will own one" syndrome. With mega overtime the last year and a half, and craigslist ofcourse, I ran up on a deal of a deal. Paid $9800 cash for a 2015 model with 5036 miles and 16 months warranty left on her. Yep, did the Irans reflash and V&H slip-ons from Ivan also. Waiting on my time allotment for the RDL seat upgrade and will still be about the same as what the 2012 Voyagers are going for around here.

ponch · 03-11-2018, 12:51 AM

Test ride bikes to see what you're missing or what you're not missing. When I sold my Nomad, I test rode a voyager, vision and ultra and then the dealer that had the vision also sold BMWs. Tossed the keys and said have fun. Had to put gas in it to get back to the dealer. I think the biggest mistakes a dealer makes is not having a test fleet. With HD, I had to follow the salesman for a 4 mile ride and with the Voyager, they wanted me to stick to a short 10 mile ride. If a bike is any good it will sell itself after a ride. I'd also suggest have an open mind in terms of bikes. If I didn't ride the BMW, who knows. It was a pleasant surprise.

Johnny Y · 03-11-2018, 01:06 PM

I'm on my 5th bike & this is my first new anything. And at that it was a N.O.S. 2012 I bought in '14'. That's how I was raised, Dad knew people who could get good deals on used cars. Or he would buy a car with body damage & fix it up. 5 years later sell it & do it again. Not because we were poor, that's just how he was.

cactusjack · 03-11-2018, 01:07 PM

The fit and finish on my 2007 Nomad was much better than the 2005 Suzuki C50T I owned before it. The fit and finish on my Harley is much better than the Nomad. You pay more and you get more.

**Rasta** · 03-11-2018, 04:24 PM

I resemble that remark!!

**Sabre-t** · 03-11-2018, 11:05 PM

I can't justify $30K for 4 wheels much less 2!

03-10-2018, 12:53 PM	#1
KURT44 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: WEST OF ROCKFORD IL. Posts: 133	Guess I am a CHEAP SOB. Have 50k on my 2012 Voyager. Have really enjoyed the bike. That being said, I keep looking at new bikes just because. Any of the newer bikes I look at: 2108 Gold wing, Road Glide, Indian Roadmaster, Yamaha Venture are just below or above the 30K price range. I think the electric windshield would be nice, had that on my ST1300. Other than that the infotainment center and heated grips and seat are the only things I don`t have now. Infotainment upgrade and heated seat mean nothing to me. Wouldn`t mind heated grips, but will probably add them sometime pretty cheap. I could afford a new bike if I convinced the wife that I deserve one. I just can see spending that much for 2 wheels when the riding and performance wouldn`t be much different. I guess that makes me a cheap SOB. I could buy a new car for close to that. __________________ Kurt44 2012 voyager Happy trails! Login or Register to Remove Ads
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03-10-2018, 01:12 PM	#2
Framer Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Piedmont OK Posts: 2,207	There’s a lot of us cheap SOB’s out there. I’ll never own a new bike unless I win the lottery and I don’t see that happening. When I wear out my Voyager I do think I’ll get a GW but who knows. __________________ David (Framer) Marang 2018 Harley Davidson Ultra Limited VBA#02245 VROC#35311 2013 Antlers 2014 Mountain View 2014 Antlers 2015 Eureka Springs 2015 Antlers 2016 Salem 2016 Antlers 2017 Eureka Springs 2017 Lake George 2017 Antlers 2018 Custer
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03-10-2018, 04:36 PM	#3
Top Cat Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Peoples Republic of New York State Posts: 15,154	Just because your happy with the bike you have dosen't mean your cheap. $30,000 for a motorcycle is crazy. __________________ Tim "TC" Conley VBA #9 2011 Victory Kingpin mine 2013 Victory Boardwalk -hers [LEFT][COLOR=#000000] [SIZE=4]
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03-10-2018, 04:45 PM	#4
buckey1313 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Westlock, Alberta Posts: 442	I cannot justify owning two wheels for 30 grand or up that is just crazy. I love the Indians would love one but the cost is just out of sight even if money was no object I cannot see spending that amount especially when I have just about as nice a bike out there I believe with my Nomad. The quality is there that is for sure as much as the others and the cost is not up there even new. The other problem I would have with an Indian is their accessories packages and products are far to vast I know I have a accessory phobia that does not allow me to stop. So that is other reason I would not own an Indian or Harley. I am very satisfied plus I have a bike that there is not allot of out there compared to the big name brands. I love that idea in itself I am different. Now with Ivan's Mod I have done I can suck up any Harley or Indian on the road I am sure of that. I doubt if a stock Harley or Indian could touch me at all. I am proud of my Nomad and be even more proud once it is back together in May and I am riding her again. __________________ Dave Leyh Edmonton, Alberta 2009 Kawasaki 1700 Vulcan Nomad
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03-10-2018, 08:33 PM	#5
KURT44 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: WEST OF ROCKFORD IL. Posts: 133	Yeah, I have decided to keep the Voyager. I really like it. Rode 70 miles today in 40 degrees. Nice and sunny. My hands didn't even get cold with my heavy winter gloves, guess I don't even need heated grips. __________________ Kurt44 2012 voyager Happy trails! Login or Register to Remove Ads
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03-10-2018, 11:36 PM	#6
Chuck A. Advanced Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Hartselle Alabama Posts: 991	I'm a cheap SOB myself for sure. I had been looking at the Voyagers for a few years but with teenage to college years killed the "will own one" syndrome. With mega overtime the last year and a half, and craigslist ofcourse, I ran up on a deal of a deal. Paid $9800 cash for a 2015 model with 5036 miles and 16 months warranty left on her. Yep, did the Irans reflash and V&H slip-ons from Ivan also. Waiting on my time allotment for the RDL seat upgrade and will still be about the same as what the 2012 Voyagers are going for around here. __________________ Have A Good One, Chuck Patriot Guard Riders Sons Of Liberty Riders Alabama Road Captain 2015 Voyager 2003 1500 NOMAD FI sold 6/19 VBA #2993 RUSSELL DAYLONG SEATS ROCK!! DAMMIT TOOL: Any handy tool that you grab and throw across the garage while yelling "DAMMIT" at the top of your lungs There is no substitute for laminar flow in which a helmet is the primary disturbance. SO MANY ROADS, SO LITTLE TIME. Last edited by Chuck A.; 03-11-2018 at 07:59 AM.
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03-11-2018, 12:51 AM	#7
ponch Sr. Contributor Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Way East Valley Posts: 12,016	Test ride bikes to see what you're missing or what you're not missing. When I sold my Nomad, I test rode a voyager, vision and ultra and then the dealer that had the vision also sold BMWs. Tossed the keys and said have fun. Had to put gas in it to get back to the dealer. I think the biggest mistakes a dealer makes is not having a test fleet. With HD, I had to follow the salesman for a 4 mile ride and with the Voyager, they wanted me to stick to a short 10 mile ride. If a bike is any good it will sell itself after a ride. I'd also suggest have an open mind in terms of bikes. If I didn't ride the BMW, who knows. It was a pleasant surprise. __________________ Ponch VBA 0019 VROC 8109-R BMWMOA 162849 BMWRA 41335 BMW: When you care enough to ride the very best. My Motorrad Blog My Motorrad YouTube 2009 BMW R1200RT Previous bikes:2007 Nomad \| 2001 Vulcan 800 Classic \| 1984 GPz750 \| 1978 KZ1000A2 Rallies: Custer '09\|Prairie Du Chien '10\|Crescent City '11
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03-11-2018, 01:06 PM	#8
Johnny Y Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: S.E.WI. Posts: 159	I'm on my 5th bike & this is my first new anything. And at that it was a N.O.S. 2012 I bought in '14'. That's how I was raised, Dad knew people who could get good deals on used cars. Or he would buy a car with body damage & fix it up. 5 years later sell it & do it again. Not because we were poor, that's just how he was. __________________ Johnny Y PCV. Chucksters B.A.K. , D&D slip-ons.
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03-11-2018, 01:07 PM	#9
cactusjack Mega-Contributor Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Where it doesn't snow...ever! Posts: 21,926	The fit and finish on my 2007 Nomad was much better than the 2005 Suzuki C50T I owned before it. The fit and finish on my Harley is much better than the Nomad. You pay more and you get more. __________________ Scott "Cactusjack" Hanks VBA #00105 H.O.G. #4250060 2011 H-D Ultra Limited 103ci :: 2011 HD Electra Glide Ultra Limited w/Stage 1 :: Rallies: Mesquite '08\|Custer '09\|Cortez '10\|Crescent City '11\|Kanab '12\|Antlers '12\|Estes Park '13\|Antlers '13\|Orofino '14\|The Dalles '17
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03-11-2018, 04:24 PM	#10
Rasta Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Ankeny Iowa Posts: 3,697	I resemble that remark!! __________________ VROC#34321 VBA#01867 2012 NCR Rally Savanna. IL. 2013 National Rally Estes Park, CO 2014 NC/SC Rally in the Ozarks, Mountain View AR 2014 NE US/Eastern Canada Rally,Lincoln NH 2015 VBA/VRA Eureka Springs AR 2015 Antlers Rally, Antlers OK. 2016 SCR Rally Salem MO. 2016 NCR Rally Hillsboro WI 2017 Eureka Springs AR 2017 National Rally Lake George NY 2004 Blue and Silver 1500 Nomad(RIP 9-26-19) 2000 Red and Silver 1500 Nomad 2012 Pearl White 1700 Voyager
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03-11-2018, 11:05 PM	#11
Sabre-t Join Date: May 2015 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 838	I can't justify $30K for 4 wheels much less 2!
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