Well Boys my V&H baggers broke yesterday

macmac · 08-12-2013, 08:32 PM

Anyone had a spiral fractured one with little y cracks all over the place?

Goes right around passing 360 degrees but doesn't meet in the same place so it's floppy

I like floppy.

I am not sure i am a good enough welder for this one.

Anyway I did the swing arm service today, and replaced the drive shaft boot.

Got rear pads on order, just got lucky, and there is a 0.001 of pad left on one side.

Going to do cam chain tensioners and see the Dunlop SP 5000 is showing wear bars real close to the surface. That can happen in late fall.

If anyone has a Dunlop SP 5000 in 195/60/R16 and didn't like it, this is the time to say so.

I wouldn't buy a new one till in November. If so i will want to know the date code and about how many line are on it, and how the bead looks.

id-man · 08-12-2013, 08:42 PM

You can't weld a simple little spiral fractured floppy crack? Maybe you need a new welder. Cuz I thought you could do anything. Before lunch.

macmac · 08-12-2013, 10:14 PM

This is some thin steel Bud...... I am sure i can burn a lot of holes though...

Jllm02199 · 08-12-2013, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macmac

Anyone had a spiral fractured one with little y cracks all over the place?

Goes right around passing 360 degrees but doesn't meet in the same place so it's floppy

I like floppy.

I am not sure i am a good enough welder for this one.

Anyway I did the swing arm service today, and replaced the drive shaft boot.

Got rear pads on order, just got lucky, and there is a 0.001 of pad left on one side.

Going to do cam chain tensioners and see the Dunlop SP 5000 is showing wear bars real close to the surface. That can happen in late fall.

If anyone has a Dunlop SP 5000 in 195/60/R16 and didn't like it, this is the time to say so.

I wouldn't buy a new one till in November. If so i will want to know the date code and about how many line are on it, and how the bead looks.

Cut the pipe and slide a pipe on over it and weld the new pipe
On both ends. Make the new piece long enough to cover the bad
Section.

**Idaho** · 08-12-2013, 10:44 PM

Good luck repairing that pipe. Thin walled steel sux.

macmac · 08-12-2013, 10:46 PM

This is all at the curve. Gotta weld the cracks, grind them flat and add pieces over them in the compound curve. I wish it was in a straighter section.

macmac · 08-12-2013, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Idaho

Good luck repairing that pipe. Thin walled steel sux.

I know a guy that can tig this up 'Right'. I can do a fair hack, but this is over my head this time. The problem I am going to have is getting this guy to do any patches over his welds.

I had my LL look at it too and he tigs but doesn't want to try this one either. That's saying something...

Besides the big screw around crack/break there are hair lines in a few places that haven't opened up yet. I should get some pics up of this i guess.

Jllm02199 are you a pro welder? I am just self taught. I do pretty good, but I know when I am out of the league and this time i know i am.

I am not sure this can even be done with out replacing pipe and maybe getting pipe bent.

I'ld buy a rear pipe new if V&H would sell one but I know that answer too.

Jeffsmountainauto · 08-13-2013, 12:40 AM

MAS Tequila was selling a set of Vance and Hines head pipes. Don't know if he still has them or not. Post said "just pipes. No mufflers"

Jeffsmountainauto · 08-13-2013, 12:41 AM

Actually, I'm not certain what they where off of either. With a look though, probably.

Smitty · 08-13-2013, 01:09 AM

Mac here is a tire for you! Not mine posted a few days ago

Quote:

Originally Posted by pastorgumby

For SALE - I have a Brand New! Dunlop SP Sport 5000
Size 195/60 R16 (bought it as per recommendation from this site for my 07 Nomad)

Couldn't drink the coolade for many reasons and won't try again...
Never installed- $75.00 or best offer! + actual shipping or free pick up in NJ.
I Paid $150! My loss...your gain (something spiritual about this notion).

Thanks & ride safe.
peace.

**cnc** · 08-13-2013, 08:12 AM

Bill IMO opinion the pipe is probably metal fatigued in the area of the cracks and so welding them up won't last. Also since welding will destroy the chrome in that area anyway, here is an idea if you decide you must save the pipe.
As it is in a bend area, take the pipe to a muffler shop with a mandrel pipe bender and get them to match the bend with new piece of pipe with a slightly larger ID. You can then cut the pipe and slip the new piece on. You would need to assemble the pipe in place before tacking to get the angles right and then remove to TIG or braze the joints properly.

**ringadingh** · 08-13-2013, 08:24 AM

Mine was cracked the same way, tig welded it up and then put a patch over it, its been holding well for at least five years now.

**Top Cat** · 08-13-2013, 08:56 AM

I'm sure V&H has corrected the problem with their product by now, I mean it has been a problem for years.
Just buy a new improved set.
Oh, wait, THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THERE IS A PROBLEM

If it were me I would buy a set of Cobras or ant other exhaust before I bought from a company who refuses to stand behind their product.

I know this doesn't help you Mac but I felt like venting

Here is the post Jeff was referring to

http://vulcanbagger.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34944

**cnc** · 08-13-2013, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Top Cat

I'm sure V&H has corrected the problem with their product by now, I mean it has been a problem for years.
Just buy a new improved set.
Oh, wait, THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THERE IS A PROBLEM

If it were me I would buy a set of Cobras or ant other exhaust before I bought from a company who refuses to stand behind their product.

I know this doesn't help you Mac but I felt like venting

Tim did you know they also come with an extra big hole in the end, poor quality control don't ya think?

**Top Cat** · 08-13-2013, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cnc

Tim did you know they also come with an extra big hole in the end, poor quality control don't ya think?

Really, you think it is OK for a company to just keep making defective products when they know damn well they are defective and won't admit it

08-12-2013, 08:32 PM	#1
macmac Sr. Contributor Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tamworth New Hampster 06 1600 Posts: 12,484	Well Boys my V&H baggers broke yesterday Anyone had a spiral fractured one with little y cracks all over the place? Goes right around passing 360 degrees but doesn't meet in the same place so it's floppy I like floppy. I am not sure i am a good enough welder for this one. Anyway I did the swing arm service today, and replaced the drive shaft boot. Got rear pads on order, just got lucky, and there is a 0.001 of pad left on one side. Going to do cam chain tensioners and see the Dunlop SP 5000 is showing wear bars real close to the surface. That can happen in late fall. If anyone has a Dunlop SP 5000 in 195/60/R16 and didn't like it, this is the time to say so. I wouldn't buy a new one till in November. If so i will want to know the date code and about how many line are on it, and how the bead looks. __________________ 06 1600 Nomad Just call me Mac molon labe come and get it Login or Register to Remove Ads
	0

08-12-2013, 08:42 PM	#2
id-man Advanced Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Cape Cod Massachusetts Posts: 822	You can't weld a simple little spiral fractured floppy crack? Maybe you need a new welder. Cuz I thought you could do anything. Before lunch. __________________ 2004 Nomad 1500FI - weeeeeeeeee!
	0

08-12-2013, 10:14 PM	#3
macmac Sr. Contributor Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tamworth New Hampster 06 1600 Posts: 12,484	This is some thin steel Bud...... I am sure i can burn a lot of holes though... __________________ 06 1600 Nomad Just call me Mac molon labe come and get it
	0

08-12-2013, 10:44 PM	#5
Idaho Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pocatello, Idaho Posts: 5,241	Good luck repairing that pipe. Thin walled steel sux. __________________ Idaho (aka Curmudgeon) Blue Knights Idaho III VBA #110 VROC #24864 IBA #49753 2007 Nomad 86,000 miles Bud Smalley Pocatello, Idaho Idaho Jack Adapter Login or Register to Remove Ads
	0

08-12-2013, 10:46 PM	#6
macmac Sr. Contributor Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tamworth New Hampster 06 1600 Posts: 12,484	This is all at the curve. Gotta weld the cracks, grind them flat and add pieces over them in the compound curve. I wish it was in a straighter section. __________________ 06 1600 Nomad Just call me Mac molon labe come and get it
	0

08-13-2013, 12:40 AM	#8
Jeffsmountainauto Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Auburn, CA Posts: 416	MAS Tequila was selling a set of Vance and Hines head pipes. Don't know if he still has them or not. Post said "just pipes. No mufflers" __________________ 2005 1600 nomad
	0

08-13-2013, 12:41 AM	#9
Jeffsmountainauto Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Auburn, CA Posts: 416	Actually, I'm not certain what they where off of either. With a look though, probably. __________________ 2005 1600 nomad
	0

08-13-2013, 08:12 AM	#11
cnc Join Date: May 2009 Location: Montreal QC Posts: 12,034	Bill IMO opinion the pipe is probably metal fatigued in the area of the cracks and so welding them up won't last. Also since welding will destroy the chrome in that area anyway, here is an idea if you decide you must save the pipe. As it is in a bend area, take the pipe to a muffler shop with a mandrel pipe bender and get them to match the bend with new piece of pipe with a slightly larger ID. You can then cut the pipe and slip the new piece on. You would need to assemble the pipe in place before tacking to get the angles right and then remove to TIG or braze the joints properly. __________________ Norm Ward 2008 blue / silver nomad kawanow / VBA #01136
	0

08-13-2013, 08:24 AM	#12
ringadingh Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newmarket Ontario Canada Posts: 35,387	Mine was cracked the same way, tig welded it up and then put a patch over it, its been holding well for at least five years now. __________________ 2002 Nomad aka Bountyhunter VBA #27 VROC #18951
	0

08-13-2013, 08:56 AM	#13
Top Cat Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Peoples Republic of New York State Posts: 15,154	I'm sure V&H has corrected the problem with their product by now, I mean it has been a problem for years. Just buy a new improved set. Oh, wait, THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THERE IS A PROBLEM If it were me I would buy a set of Cobras or ant other exhaust before I bought from a company who refuses to stand behind their product. I know this doesn't help you Mac but I felt like venting Here is the post Jeff was referring to http://vulcanbagger.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34944 __________________ Tim "TC" Conley VBA #9 2011 Victory Kingpin mine 2013 Victory Boardwalk -hers [LEFT][COLOR=#000000] [SIZE=4] Last edited by Top Cat; 08-13-2013 at 09:04 AM.
	0