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Old 03-31-2013, 01:36 PM   #1
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Steering Stem bearings

I think I need to replace the steering stem bearings on my 2006 Nomad as well as change the oil in the Forks. Tearing down the fork doesn't seem that difficult and removing the steering stem bearing races appears pretty straight forward. The concern I have is installing the bearing races. What can I use to install the races and bearings without breaking the bank.

Is this something that I should attempt to do myself? I have no mechanical training, however I did do the swing arm/shaft drive lubrication by myself using Gadgets fine instructions.

My concern is putting everything back together properly. If I can get the bearings on I can definitely put the stem back together. I putting the fork back together straight forward?



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Old 03-31-2013, 01:57 PM   #2
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I tap pped my races back in with a flat round punch. Just work your war around and seat them evenly. You should have no problems. They go in easier than they come out.
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Old 03-31-2013, 02:25 PM   #3
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Like Steve said, you can use a punch to seat the races, I would suggest something soft like an aluminum, brass, or cold rolled steel rod, and make sue to go evenly, and bottom it out onto the seats. I made a race seating tool that seats both at the same time. Changing the fork oil is not hard, just take your time and pay attention to how everything comes apart. One other suggestion........ to get the lower bearing off the stem, use a cold chisel and place it going straight into the stem, with the tip between the bearing and seat, and give it a quick wrap with a hammer, and it will pop the bearing right off.
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Old 03-31-2013, 03:58 PM   #4
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Put the races that go in the steering head in the freezer to get them good and cold. The metal will contract and make them easier to install.
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Old 03-31-2013, 04:00 PM   #5
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Thanks for the quick reply.
VulcanE, how did you make the tool to seat the races?
I was just worried about seating the races properly.
So...as long as I am careful and put things back correctly, this is not difficult.
I'll do it with the same approach I used when I did the swingarm. I took my time and disassembled and reassembled it slowly.



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Old 03-31-2013, 05:05 PM   #6
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So why do you think you need new stem bearings?
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Old 03-31-2013, 06:23 PM   #7
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So why do you think you need new stem bearings?
There is a "flat spot" as you turn the wheel past "straight ahead". Making slow speed turns you can feel it. It feels like a "bump".
 
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Old 04-01-2013, 06:40 AM   #8
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Tool = Allthread and a nut and large washer on each end. cheap tool for steering head bearings.

Run it thru the steering head and put the washer over the bearing and tighten the nut and it seats.
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http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/718...bearing-races/[/QUOTE]

A homemade tool that was used and discussed in a previous VB thread
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That's pretty slick.
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Thanks for the quick reply.
VulcanE, how did you make the tool to seat the races?
I was just worried about seating the races properly.
Here's a photo of the tool I made. It is 2 pieces of D2 steel hardened to 60Rc and machined to .005" smaller than the OD of the races, with a 3/8-16 threaded rod between them. After you get the races to set on the seats, you continue to tighten to reach 90 ft lbs, this is the correct way to seat the races according to Kawasaki. I chose this set up because I didn't think that washers would stand up to the 90 ft lbs, and I wanted a tool that I could use again if needed. I had the materials, machines, and heat treat capabilities to make it, so I went ahead and done it.
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Old 04-01-2013, 07:44 PM   #13
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VulcanE,
I wish I had half the knowledge and ability that you guys have. That's the type of tool I know you need to do the job right (at least according to the manual).

lonewolf,
Glad to see how to remove the races. I even think that I could make that tool. It's a whole lot cheaper than buying the similar Park tool that I've seen.

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