Oil Gear

**canedriver** · 09-16-2011, 01:41 PM

Unsure if I posted a pic of the oil gear or not after my failed attempt at going to the redwoods rally.
As you can see the bike already had the upgraded metal gear in it. After talking to the guy who makes the steel gear the install was done wrong.
Bike is at shop here in Tampa getting fixed. That gunk you see is metal pieces and shavings from the stripped gear.
I had two options at this point. Buy a used motor which if you look at eBay is running $1200-$2200 or rebuild existing motor. I had them tear down the bike replace gear, piston rings etc. $1400 all in. :-(

Hacksaw · 09-16-2011, 01:46 PM

how many miles on that gear? just curious

**canedriver** · 09-16-2011, 01:47 PM

The gear itself I don't know. I bought bike used with 28k on the clock. When it broke down it had 32k.

macmac · 09-16-2011, 04:50 PM

Bummer........ How was the install wrong? It might save some other guy........

**ringadingh** · 09-16-2011, 06:31 PM

That price sounds like a bargain to have the motor re & re'd plus having new pistons and rings installed. Although 32k is low mileage for these motors.

jandreu · 09-16-2011, 09:40 PM

canedriver...I was wondering where you got off to. Have not seen a post from you after the breakdown. Hope everything works out for ya.

danimal2 · 09-16-2011, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by macmac

Bummer........ How was the install wrong? It might save some other guy........

Yes please. I have to do the JOG on mine this winter. What went wrong? Outwardly it looks like it was put on o.k. I'd be curious as to what the problem was. Seems like if it were installed improperly it would've failed long before 4,000 miles were put on it.

I'm getting nervous now.

**canedriver** · 09-17-2011, 12:50 AM

I will know more about it tomorrow (today) or tuesday. Dealer I have it at is closed on sundays and mondays and not sure i want to spend 2 hours going to get bike tomorrow afternoon. Big football day in florida tomorrow. Florida state - Oklahoma, Miami - Ohio State, and Florida - Tennessee.

mikeyger · 09-17-2011, 07:16 AM

I put two jogs in mine.The first one faile after 3000 miles because i filed the keeper to much.The second after I sold it about 4000 miles Don't know? Jim who has the bike now used the fog (ferris idea) method. He bought a stock oil gear from the factory.Ferris drilled out the center to specs on shaft and then after it was in place just tacked it on with a welder,so far so good for him.It also was a lot cheaper!There is also a way to pull the clip off and gear without splitting the cases.The Judge told me and it has been done when the shaft has been pulled out or loose because the gear was to close to the boss.The jog works 99% of the time if installed correctly but we think the gear failed this last time.I will be glad to provide more information if you need any help.It is a 3 hour job with the jog and a little longer with the other method because of the machining involed of drilling the shaft out. Mie

mikeyger · 09-17-2011, 07:22 AM

That the way jims jog looked.It also had about 4000 miles .We decided the gear itself .Bob (judge) changed machinist and me and ferris think mabe the gear although heat treated had a fault.The welded factory gear sounds lie a good idea to me

cactusjack · 09-17-2011, 08:49 AM

In my humble opinion, this thread is a good argument for avoiding a used '99 Nomad. You just don't know about those oil gears, unless the seller can document the POG replacement by a dealer.

mikeyger · 09-17-2011, 06:27 PM

Amen to that cactusjack!

danimal2 · 09-19-2011, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyger

Jim who has the bike now
used the fog (ferris idea) method. He bought a stock oil gear
from the factory.Ferris drilled out the center to specs on shaft
and then after it was in place just tacked it on with a welder,
so far so good for him.It also was a lot cheaper!

I like this idea and not because it's cheaper. I've got a
buddy that's great with a TIG welder. I wouldn't trust my
little cheapo flux welder for this one.

Might just go this route.

Thanks for the information Mike. If you've got any photos
or other information on the FOG I'd really like to see it.

mikeyger · 09-19-2011, 05:55 PM

http://www.vroc.org/view_profile.php?user_id=4653 Here ya go let me know if you need any more info.It is just tacked on! Mike

mikeyger · 09-19-2011, 05:55 PM

http://www.vroc.org/view_profile.php?user_id=4653 Here ya go let me know if you need any more info.It is just tacked on! Mike

09-16-2011, 01:41 PM	#1
canedriver Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 632	Oil Gear Unsure if I posted a pic of the oil gear or not after my failed attempt at going to the redwoods rally. As you can see the bike already had the upgraded metal gear in it. After talking to the guy who makes the steel gear the install was done wrong. Bike is at shop here in Tampa getting fixed. That gunk you see is metal pieces and shavings from the stripped gear. I had two options at this point. Buy a used motor which if you look at eBay is running $1200-$2200 or rebuild existing motor. I had them tear down the bike replace gear, piston rings etc. $1400 all in. :-( Login or Register to Remove Ads
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09-16-2011, 01:46 PM	#2
Hacksaw Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Northern Kentucky Posts: 457	Oil Gear how many miles on that gear? just curious __________________ Harley Ultra Classic VBA# 01712 VROC# 37712
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09-16-2011, 01:47 PM	#3
canedriver Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 632	Oil Gear The gear itself I don't know. I bought bike used with 28k on the clock. When it broke down it had 32k.
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09-16-2011, 04:50 PM	#4
macmac Sr. Contributor Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tamworth New Hampster 06 1600 Posts: 12,484	Oil Gear Bummer........ How was the install wrong? It might save some other guy........ __________________ 06 1600 Nomad Just call me Mac molon labe come and get it
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09-16-2011, 06:31 PM	#5
ringadingh Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newmarket Ontario Canada Posts: 35,387	Oil Gear That price sounds like a bargain to have the motor re & re'd plus having new pistons and rings installed. Although 32k is low mileage for these motors. __________________ 2002 Nomad aka Bountyhunter VBA #27 VROC #18951 Login or Register to Remove Ads
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09-16-2011, 09:40 PM	#6
jandreu Sr. Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Makawao, Hawaii Posts: 1,409	Oil Gear canedriver...I was wondering where you got off to. Have not seen a post from you after the breakdown. Hope everything works out for ya. __________________ James Andreu '07 1600 Red/Silver VBA Member #1356 jandreu@hawaiiantel.net
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09-17-2011, 12:50 AM	#8
canedriver Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 632	Oil Gear I will know more about it tomorrow (today) or tuesday. Dealer I have it at is closed on sundays and mondays and not sure i want to spend 2 hours going to get bike tomorrow afternoon. Big football day in florida tomorrow. Florida state - Oklahoma, Miami - Ohio State, and Florida - Tennessee.
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09-17-2011, 07:16 AM	#9
mikeyger Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: hermitage tenn Posts: 410	Oil Gear I put two jogs in mine.The first one faile after 3000 miles because i filed the keeper to much.The second after I sold it about 4000 miles Don't know? Jim who has the bike now used the fog (ferris idea) method. He bought a stock oil gear from the factory.Ferris drilled out the center to specs on shaft and then after it was in place just tacked it on with a welder,so far so good for him.It also was a lot cheaper!There is also a way to pull the clip off and gear without splitting the cases.The Judge told me and it has been done when the shaft has been pulled out or loose because the gear was to close to the boss.The jog works 99% of the time if installed correctly but we think the gear failed this last time.I will be glad to provide more information if you need any help.It is a 3 hour job with the jog and a little longer with the other method because of the machining involed of drilling the shaft out. Mie
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09-17-2011, 07:22 AM	#10
mikeyger Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: hermitage tenn Posts: 410	Oil Gear That the way jims jog looked.It also had about 4000 miles .We decided the gear itself .Bob (judge) changed machinist and me and ferris think mabe the gear although heat treated had a fault.The welded factory gear sounds lie a good idea to me
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09-17-2011, 08:49 AM	#11
cactusjack Mega-Contributor Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Where it doesn't snow...ever! Posts: 21,926	Oil Gear In my humble opinion, this thread is a good argument for avoiding a used '99 Nomad. You just don't know about those oil gears, unless the seller can document the POG replacement by a dealer. __________________ Scott "Cactusjack" Hanks VBA #00105 H.O.G. #4250060 2011 H-D Ultra Limited 103ci :: 2011 HD Electra Glide Ultra Limited w/Stage 1 :: Rallies: Mesquite '08\|Custer '09\|Cortez '10\|Crescent City '11\|Kanab '12\|Antlers '12\|Estes Park '13\|Antlers '13\|Orofino '14\|The Dalles '17
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09-17-2011, 06:27 PM	#12
mikeyger Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: hermitage tenn Posts: 410	Oil Gear Amen to that cactusjack!
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09-19-2011, 05:55 PM	#14
mikeyger Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: hermitage tenn Posts: 410	Oil Gear http://www.vroc.org/view_profile.php?user_id=4653 Here ya go let me know if you need any more info.It is just tacked on! Mike
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