Extra Gas - How??

[nomadtom69]

The hitch idea looks best to me you get 5 gal that way

[ponch]

There's always this. Rotopax On my last highway outing I was getting about 49 MPG. That's about 349 miles. No need for the can unless I am going to Alaska.

[usranger74]

Originally Posted by ponch

There's always this. Rotopax On my last highway outing I was getting about 49 MPG. That's about 349 miles. No need for the can unless I am going to Alaska.

I looked at those but did not see how I could easily fit two gals on the Nomad. They do look like a good idea for a SUV.

[ringadingh]

Id probably use regular one gallon plastic jerry cans and tie them to the rear running boards, unless of coarse you have a passenger with you.

[ponch]

Originally Posted by usranger74

I looked at those but did not see how I could easily fit two gals on the Nomad. They do look like a good idea for a SUV.

Guys with Adventure bikes use them. Looking at the mounting system, I could come up with an idea or two.

[macmac]

I really don't like this idea, I really really don't like Zoom's set up, I am sorry, but I just can't agree with that cooler box with 2 gallons of gasoline in it.

With a 01 1500 I crossed Nevada on Rt 50 2 up and with a trailer, and the bike was dead bones stock then getting middle 30 MPG's.

I did buy a 1 gallon gas jug in Delta Utah , but I carried it empty , and figured if I needed it i would hitch a ride somehow.

I didn't know about Rotopax.

If I were going solo somewhere, I might see fit to add a Rotopax to the pillion seat directly to the sissy bar, and then add any luggage against that.

Some of this is just scarey, and I don't like it.

[ponch]

Like I said, Adventure riders like these. these are the guys that ride big enduros and don't stick to just the highway. They take "the long way around". In that case, extra gas is a good idea. The other thing about the rotopax is that they can carry more than gas, but water and other fuels. It's also nice that they interlock and have a secure mounting system. Very well thought out.

[usranger74]

Originally Posted by macmac

I really don't like this idea, I really really don't like Zoom's set up, I am sorry, but I just can't agree with that cooler box with 2 gallons of gasoline in it.

With a 01 1500 I crossed Nevada on Rt 50 2 up and with a trailer, and the bike was dead bones stock then getting middle 30 MPG's.

I did buy a 1 gallon gas jug in Delta Utah , but I carried it empty , and figured if I needed it i would hitch a ride somehow.

I didn't know about Rotopax.

If I were going solo somewhere, I might see fit to add a Rotopax to the pillion seat directly to the sissy bar, and then add any luggage against that.

Some of this is just scarey, and I don't like it.

Mac - are you saying this is a bad idea?

http://www.redagascan.com/

[upside22]

I don't know if Mac thinks carrying fuel in a plastic container is a bad idea but *I* do. Fuel should either be in a hard container (like a spun aluminum bottle made to carry camp stove fuel in a backpack) or in a flexible bladder that can change shape when impacted.

Prime examples are the old Pinto's and Mustangs where the rear fuel tank was placed in the rear crush zone when a rear impact occurred. The fuel tanks in these cars were not hardened containers and were not flexible bladders. This resulted in a number of burn victims being seen from rear end collisions when the tank burst and spread fuel everywhere.

The gas tanks on most motorcycles are made of hardened steel that resist rupture. Not so with plastic or tin gas cans in a saddlebag.

I have a friend that carries a 1 gal tin gas can in his Suzuki saddlebag. We've discussed it and he is willing to accept the risk.

I am not.

[ponch]

Originally Posted by upside22

I don't know if Mac thinks carrying fuel in a plastic container is a bad idea but *I* do. Fuel should either be in a hard container (like a spun aluminum bottle made to carry camp stove fuel in a backpack) or in a flexible bladder that can change shape when impacted.

Prime examples are the old Pinto's and Mustangs where the rear fuel tank was placed in the rear crush zone when a rear impact occurred. The fuel tanks in these cars were not hardened containers and were not flexible bladders. This resulted in a number of burn victims being seen from rear end collisions when the tank burst and spread fuel everywhere.

The gas tanks on most motorcycles are made of hardened steel that resist rupture. Not so with plastic or tin gas cans in a saddlebag.

I have a friend that carries a 1 gal tin gas can in his Suzuki saddlebag. We've discussed it and he is willing to accept the risk.

I am not.

Wow. My gas tank is plastic and I've never heard of explosions or fires with it. Plastic is also widely used in car and truck gas tanks as well.

[Jared]

I have ridden highway 50 in Nevada/Utah (the road Mac is referring to) a number of times and that stretch of road is nick-named the Loneliest Highway in America. With that being said, I still never needed a gas can. I can totally see how it would be necessary for a multisport bike that may not see pavement for days at a time, but on the Nomad you'd have to make a conscious effort to not find a gas station. Maybe that's what you're doing..?

If you really like to stay off major highways and to ride in the wide open spaces of the great plains. great! But you better not ride out too far into the wide open spaces because a gallon is only going to get you another 35 miles.

Again, I don't really care one way or another. Just stating my thoughts. Have fun, ride the open spaces. Don't run out of gas. :) :) :)

[cactusjack]

While I understand why someone would want to carry extra gas, it's not something I would do myself. I've got a 200-mile + range and there aren't many places in the USA where there's 200 miles between gas stations. Not even out here in the wide open west.

[upside22]

I used to race enduros with a plastic tank on my Penton dirt bike. It was a heavy duty plastic that was flexible under pressure much like a bladder. I know from experience having dumped it in numerous times in all kinds of environments including sharp rocks. It was almost impossible to damage it. I suspect your plastic gas tank is of the same type of construction. If it wasn't, the manufacturer would be risking HUGE liability claims from injured riders.

Plastic gas cans are usually not that indestructible. They are made of thin plastic and, especially when full, are not flexible enough to prevent bursting or penetration during accidents.

If you want to carry such containers in your saddlebags that is totally up to you. If you want to recommend the practice to your friends that is totally up to you. I simply will not carry such containers nor will I recommend to anyone that it is a safe thing to do.

[lonewolf]

Buddy had one of those aluminum gas bottles in the side bag of his ultra a couple years back. we were in the campground at sturgis when we heard a large POP ! upon investigation we found that bottle had burst in in his bag. ruined a frogg togg rain suit , and made a hell of a stinky mess in his bag. i wont use one after that ! had visions of gas leaking down on hot pipes !!!!

[ponch]

I would think the rotopax are okey dokey considering their intended use, which is attached to moving vehicles.