View Full Version : Whats with you yankees?
samkjr
07-25-2008, 12:06 PM
I drove up to here Marietta(between york and lancaster) PA to hang out with a buddy this weekend. I do my usual waves at other bikes while driving. You know I only got 4 waves back out of litterally , no exaggeration, about 30 other bikes. Sorry for short message but am typing on a phone.
How baout some hospitality?
alright. ya'll have fun now y'hear?
socwkbiker
07-25-2008, 12:14 PM
Just point them out and we'll send the PA Enforcer, Beezer to visit them. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif
Here in CA it must be a friendlier place....we get about 90% of our fellow motorcyclists waving back...even Harley guys/gals...and I've been told that they only wave back to their fellow Harley riders!
donguer
07-25-2008, 12:30 PM
I have NO ISSUES here in NY. Your on a Bike you get a wave, or a nod if you can't let go of the handlebars, no exceptions. You musta hit a dry spot. LOL :)
mmartin
07-25-2008, 12:39 PM
If they are patch wearing MC club members they may not even acknowledge you even exist, (not all), just their way.
Hospitality is a Southern thang. So don't think about to much, it's just Yankees, the ones who waved are the good ones. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif
vaccam
07-25-2008, 01:24 PM
I'd say here in Maryland about 95% of the riders wave.
Like donguer said, nod if you can't let go of the bars.
rlfaubion
07-25-2008, 01:48 PM
I noticed a lot of dickheads in Oregon too
Cajunrider
07-25-2008, 02:00 PM
I'd say here in Maryland about 95% of the riders wave.
Same here....
pirate
07-25-2008, 02:27 PM
Pretty much all the bikers wave to each other in ND.
cactusjack
07-25-2008, 02:37 PM
I noticed a lot of dickheads in Oregon too
Gee, that's surprising. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif
I probably get 95% of my waves returned. I try to do the same.
kawgirl
07-25-2008, 02:42 PM
We wave at each other here in NC too.
buckeye
07-25-2008, 02:46 PM
No problems here in Ohio (God's Country). The only ones who don't wave are the scooters (old people and soccer moms) and smaller crotch rockets (new, young, and don't have a clue riders). All others wave---it's a State Law! LOL
dui546
07-25-2008, 02:58 PM
Its hit and miss in our area. There are a lot of HD wannabe riders who go from their garage to a local hang out bar and back to their garage. Its an image thing. I'd be surprised if the put 200 miles on their odometers a year. Some wave...some don't.
Its hit and miss in our area. There are a lot of HD wannabe riders who go from their garage to a local hang out bar and back to their garage. Its an image thing. I'd be surprised if the put 200 miles on their odometers a year. Some wave...some don't.
I call it the H/D attitude, mostly the ones without lids. Some that do wave act like they are forced to and even look away while waving ::)
kingcruiser
07-25-2008, 03:47 PM
Hell, in Texas we get close enough to give each other high fives.
Yellow Jacket
07-25-2008, 04:23 PM
I haven't ridden in PA yet so don't know what was wrong with those dummies! Everywhere else I've ridden, most everyone waves or nods if not able to wave. I'm originally from Michigan and I know for a fact that they wave there. I was there a couple of weeks ago and was riding my brother's Harley. Everyone I waved to waved back. Of course, people from Michigan are NOT yankees! We're Mid-Westerners dammit! :) :)
ponch
07-25-2008, 05:45 PM
In NY we wave, but you can't see it because it's our middle finger. :) Out in Iowa, most people wave, but if I am trying to pay attention to what I am doing, I don't wave back.
I haven't ridden in PA yet so don't know what was wrong with those dummies
??? ??? ??? EXCUSE ME ??? ??? ??? NOT EVERBODY http://s2.images.proboards.com/angry.gif:(" title=">:(" border="0"/> http://s2.images.proboards.com/angry.gif:(" title=">:(" border="0"/> http://s2.images.proboards.com/angry.gif:(" title=">:(" border="0"/>
DAMNIT!!!
I'll probably take some shots here but here it goes any how. I don't get this waving thing with people on bikes. I don't wave at other Monte Carlo drivers when I drive my car. Why should I wave at total strangers when I'm on my bike? I think it's silly. I don't wave.
unwind2
07-25-2008, 06:21 PM
I'll probably take some shots here but here it goes any how. I don't get this waving thing with people on bikes. I don't wave at other Monte Carlo drivers when I drive my car. Why should I wave a total strangers on my bike? I think it's silly. I don't wave.
Okay, well, here's your first shot. I wave because I enjoy being on the bike so much - I wave at others on their bikes as if to say 'Hey you out in the wind too - have a great day'. That being said if they don't wave back it's no biggie to me. Now that wasn't too painful a shot was it? ;)
donguer
07-25-2008, 06:38 PM
Jeep Wrangler Owners wave to one another too. I know because I own one.
There is an understanding among Motorcyclist. For example, I was on the side of the road cause I received a 911 call from my wife, 2 bikers at two separate times pulled over to see if all was OK. Its a courtesy extended because of the disadvantage/advantage we have on motorcycles. I like it makes me feel better about life.
So, Dave if you feel that waving is not for you, look at it this way, why not give a courtesy wave to the person who recognized you. This way you can ride on knowing you contributed to making his day better.
ringadingh
07-25-2008, 06:46 PM
Here in Canada I feel I get about 95% waves also.Its not that hard a task when your able to reciprocate is it? I do when Im able to.
kawgirl
07-25-2008, 08:12 PM
I'll probably take some shots here but here it goes any how. I don't get this waving thing with people on bikes. I don't wave at other Monte Carlo drivers when I drive my car. Why should I wave at total strangers when I'm on my bike? I think it's silly. I don't wave.
Here's your second shot. As Unwind said, howdy and good to share the road with a fellow rider. Here's a great story/explanation.
http://www.shinnysideup.com/msf/The%20Wave.htm
gghost
07-25-2008, 08:15 PM
Agree with the comment about crotch rocket riders that don't wave...I think most are too afraid to let go... http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif
In NC, almost everyone waves or nods...we are just having a good time and want to share our joy http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif
Yellow Jacket
07-25-2008, 08:22 PM
I haven't ridden in PA yet so don't know what was wrong with those dummies
??? ??? ??? EXCUSE ME ??? ??? ??? NOT EVERBODY http://s2.images.proboards.com/angry.gif:(" title=">:(" border="0"/> http://s2.images.proboards.com/angry.gif:(" title=">:(" border="0"/> http://s2.images.proboards.com/angry.gif:(" title=">:(" border="0"/>
DAMNIT!!!
Sorry Fish! I didn't mean to indict all PA riders. I was just giving a tongue-in-cheek hard time to the ones mentioned that didn't wave. Are you anywhere near Pittsburgh? I get there occasionally. If I get the chance I will look you up. You can give me three lashes with a wet noodle and then I will buy you a beer, or two, or three! http://s2.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif
I'd estimate the wave rate around here about 70%, HD or not. Less in city traffic of course. Interesting to guess who will or won't. Not always sure why I do or don't, its not automatic. Usually try to return one though.
Yellow Jacket
07-25-2008, 08:40 PM
I'll probably take some shots here but here it goes any how. I don't get this waving thing with people on bikes. I don't wave at other Monte Carlo drivers when I drive my car. Why should I wave at total strangers when I'm on my bike? I think it's silly. I don't wave.
Hi Dave! First of all, I'm not going to take a shot at you. I don't thing anyone here at KawaNOW will probably take a real shot at you either. Let me explain. When I started riding some 40 years ago I didn't know diddly about waving. I noticed other riders waving at me so I started waving back. When I got the chance I asked an old biker what the deal was (he was only in his 30's http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif but I thought he was old!). He told me it was just a way to acknowledge that we were enjoying the same activity and that even if we were strangers we did have something in common. Since then, if I have the chance to wave I do. If I'm busy, like riding the dragon, I'm keeping both hands on the bars. If others wave at me I'm happy and I'll wave back. If they choose not to wave, it doesn't matter. I'm still happy.
So, if anyone wants to wave, that's OK. http://s2.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif
Likewise, if they don't want to wave, that's OK. http://s2.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif
Sometimes I get a wave from a cager. I figure he must be rider too and just can't help himself. In fact, caught myself doing it once, maybe twice.
operater
07-25-2008, 08:56 PM
In my neck of the woods we generally give waves on the highway and not so much in the city.....Usually too many bikers on the road for that in town......
skeeter
07-25-2008, 09:28 PM
Hell, in Texas we get close enough to give each other high fives.
You the wiseguy that pulled my finger?!
I wave at night.....
racinchef
07-25-2008, 09:34 PM
When I see the other guy in Vermont that rides a motorcycle I always wave to him and he waves back, but all the bikers that come from out of state don't always wave back to me. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif
??? ??? ??? EXCUSE ME ??? ??? ??? NOT EVERBODY http://s2.images.proboards.com/angry.gif:(" title=">:(" border="0"/> http://s2.images.proboards.com/angry.gif:(" title=">:(" border="0"/> http://s2.images.proboards.com/angry.gif:(" title=">:(" border="0"/>
DAMNIT!!!
Sorry Fish! I didn't mean to indict all PA riders. I was just giving a tongue-in-cheek hard time to the ones mentioned that didn't wave. Are you anywhere near Pittsburgh? I get there occasionally. If I get the chance I will look you up. You can give me three lashes with a wet noodle and then I will buy you a beer, or two, or three! http://s2.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif
I'm from the other eastern part of the state about 300 miles east. Although I'll take you up on the beer http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif
I thought maybe thats what you meant. Its mostly the HD bikes, I see it too.
Idaho
07-25-2008, 09:52 PM
Guess I'm one of the dickheads. Back in the 70's when there were not many bikes on the road we all waved back and forth. Now there are so many bikes on the road that my left handlebar grip was still new after 10,000 miles. (well, almost) Guess I just got tired of it. Stopped waving at everyone and his or her brother on the highway, still stop to help out a fellow two wheeler and that is what counts in my book.
I was actually thinking about starting a post to ask how many of you wave back and forth. I've noticed that when there is a gathering of bikes for a large rally of some kind that pretty much everyone stops waving because you would not be able to drive. So, does the magical - howdy do - wave only apply when bike traffic is sparse? Dickhead out.
ridemslow
07-25-2008, 10:03 PM
In PA, they're probly too busy watching out for potholes, or "SKI-JUMPS" in the roadway, and afraid to let go or the grip long enough to wave.
skeeter
07-25-2008, 10:07 PM
Guess I'm one of the dickheads. Back in the 70's when there were not many bikes on the road we all waved back and forth. Now there are so many bikes on the road that my left handlebar grip was still new after 10,000 miles. (well, almost) Guess I just got tired of it. Stopped waving at everyone and his or her brother on the highway, still stop to help out a fellow two wheeler and that is what counts in my book.
I was actually thinking about starting a post to ask how many of you wave back and forth. I've noticed that when there is a gathering of bikes for a large rally of some kind that pretty much everyone stops waving because you would not be able to drive. So, does the magical - howdy do - wave only apply when bike traffic is sparse? Dickhead out.
No need to go and change your name! Idaho sounds better anyway, http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif
The real reason for the low wave is to let others know there are Harley parts on the road again.
formikec
07-25-2008, 10:48 PM
Hell, in Texas we get close enough to give each other high fives.
I'm pretty damn sure that a guy tried to "low" five me today. lol We were pretty damn close.
And, Sam, easy on the Yankees. I'm a damn yankee myself, at least that is the description all of my friends in TN give me. Even though I've been in TN for 23 years and only Indiana for the first 16.
My feeling is you find those that wave and don't wave everywhere. And there are just too many variables to why they wouldn't wave. They could have been concentrating on something else, could be new and don't want to remove the hands from the handlebars, or could just not like to wave. Who cares. If you wave because you want something in return, then what's the sense?
Just wave if you can and you want to, and if you don't, that's fine, too.
A nod, a wave, its just an acknowledgment of those who have similar experiences and stories on the road.
Over here you get about 80% acknowledge back. Caravaner's are also the same, maybe for the same reasons? experiences and stories?? Must admit its the HD'ers http://s2.images.proboards.com/tongue.gif and posers http://s2.images.proboards.com/tongue.gif who cant be bothered, so who cares. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif
unwind2
07-26-2008, 08:37 AM
Sometimes I get a wave from a cager. I figure he must be rider too and just can't help himself. In fact, caught myself doing it once, maybe twice.
Oh there's been times when I am in my car I have almost waved.
nomad
07-26-2008, 09:35 AM
i've noticed that some of the harley guys do this. i guess if you don't ride a harley you are not good enough to wave to.........
I'd say here in Maryland about 95% of the riders wave.
Same here....
+1 The only ones that I have found that are hesitant to wave are crotch rocket riders. Usually " squids" that don't give a rip about anyone, but themselves.
Alot of guys on Harleys won't wave. Also, could be they were afraid to take one of their hands off the bars ;)
Top Cat
07-26-2008, 07:31 PM
I used to wave to every bike I would meet.
But when I wave and the person doesen't wave back I feel like I have been insulted. I don't like being insulted. How freekin' hard is it for a person to wave back.
If you are the kind of person who doesn't want to wave back then I don't care to know you anyway, so now if someone waves to me, I wave, if they don't then my hand stays on the grip.
Don't get me wrong, I will stop to help anyone on the side of the road I think needs a hand.
Kawagirl...I read 2 pages of your link...thanks for posting it!!
lol...I wave when riding bitch...(Where's the history on that? lol) so Nico doesn't have to... (he said it's my job...lol)
I hold my arm down w/palm out...and i do wonder sometimes why some don't wave back...when a bunch go by at once I just keep my arm out til everyone goes by...HDers wave back here most of the time...(I think!! lol)
Idaho
07-26-2008, 11:20 PM
You people are tough, I've been labled a "squid" and a poser and TC does not care to know me. http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif I need therapy. LOL
joesnomad
07-27-2008, 01:22 PM
I drove up to here Marietta(between york and lancaster) PA. Since HD's are manufactured in York , I have no problem believing this. I live about an hour west of there and about 90% wave. There seems to be a very strong relationship among HD riders, some how they can sence metric bikes from a long distance and dont wave. However most will. I have a friend who I grew up with we rode together in the 70's and 80's. We both got away from bike riding for years and both got back into it within 3 months of each other he rides a HD I dont, says the Nomad is a nice bike but its not an HD. I said yeah I know thats why I bought it. You know he has never asked me to go riding with him yet. Now I wouldnt even if he did happen to ask. I do ride with other HD riders My brother and my cousin have one and many other friends. As far as I'm concerned if your on 2 wheels your a friend, even if you do ride an HD.
schoeney
07-27-2008, 02:38 PM
Top Cat,
I am like you. used tow ave to everyone but so few returned the wave that I just stopped. If someone waves I will return it.
Valdez, I am not surprised that you think the Oregonians are dickheads....I am just on the north side of Portland (technically I am in Washington) and we have a very low rate of return waves as well. Seems like Harley riders are the worst.
Nomads look like Harley's from a distance to many people, so maybe that is why I don't get the return wave. Maybe it would help if I didn't put my middle finger up while waving? :-)
mrfuni
07-27-2008, 02:41 PM
OK after reading the post here I conducted an informal survey riding in South Florida.
About 1-2 hours on the road. Passed 15 motorcycles, 13 waved back. Guess that's Southern Hospitality :)
beezer
07-27-2008, 02:54 PM
Yup, us Yankees are the meanest people on the planet. You should have done away with us when you had the opportunity but that would have only left the Californians to make this country run fiscally. You should thank the people of the Northeast for all we do for this country. Someday it would be nice to have a president from here so we can get some roads repaired and cities rebuilt.
Top Cat
07-27-2008, 03:12 PM
OK Idaho, maybe I was alittle tough on ya ;)
If you don't want to wave then thats fine with me. I'm glad I know you http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif
Idaho
07-27-2008, 06:08 PM
OK Idaho, maybe I was alittle tough on ya ;)
If you don't want to wave then thats fine with me. I'm glad I know you http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif
Thanks TC, I'll cancel the therapy.
socwkbiker
07-27-2008, 06:16 PM
Yup, us Yankees are the meanest people on the planet. You should have done away with us when you had the opportunity but that would have only left the Californians to make this country run fiscally. You should thank the people of the Northeast for all we do for this country. Someday it would be nice to have a president from here so we can get some roads repaired and cities rebuilt.
You tell 'em Beezer!
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2293/2177962833_247a0e661d_o.jpg
beezer
07-27-2008, 06:21 PM
[quote=" beezer":wmb5qupy]Yup, us Yankees are the meanest people on the planet. You should have done away with us when you had the opportunity but that would have only left the Californians to make this country run fiscally. You should thank the people of the Northeast for all we do for this country. Someday it would be nice to have a president from here so we can get some roads repaired and cities rebuilt.
You tell 'em Beezer!
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2293/2177962833_247a0e661d_o.jpg[/quote:wmb5qupy]
;) http://s2.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif
basco
07-27-2008, 06:28 PM
The Yankees don't wave because if they did they wouldn't have a hand on the bars since the other one is busy flipping people off http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif
beezer
07-27-2008, 07:14 PM
Barkeep, give that man another round http://s2.images.proboards.com/cool.gif
formikec
07-27-2008, 08:07 PM
Well, I was going to ask if it was politically correct to change a two finger down to a one finger up/down if the harley rider doesn't wave back? Is that an okay thing?
ponch
07-27-2008, 09:21 PM
I think I already said that...
The Yankees don't wave because if they did they wouldn't have a hand on the bars since the other one is busy flipping people off http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif
samkjr
07-27-2008, 09:50 PM
Hey everyone. I'm home now from my trip. Was a great ride. FOund more wavers once I got off the main roads. Made some other comments and such on the thread Kawagirl started. Didnt realize what a nest my quick post would start. Its fun to see everyones opinions. I feel that most of us appear to be of the same thinking.
basco
07-27-2008, 10:19 PM
I think I already said that...
The Yankees don't wave because if they did they wouldn't have a hand on the bars since the other one is busy flipping people off http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif
Oops my bad I didnt read all the pages
ponch
07-28-2008, 08:33 AM
In NY, the middle finger is a hi/hello... :)
I think I already said that...
Oops my bad I didnt read all the pages
phenrichs
07-28-2008, 11:26 AM
In SD it is an entirely different world. People here are very friendly for the most part. Unless you are on a motorcycle. I think it is because of sturgis. Nearly every HD that the dealers sell come with a HD leather jacket and a HD helmet and membership to their club. Oh yeah, they get free year membership to HOG owner group as well. I notice that if there are more than one or two of them together you generally dont get a response.
It irritates me even more. My hometown is 100 miles from where I currently live and used to be very friendly. Even people in cars would wave at bikes. They put up an HD dealer a year ago and it seems like the nose in the air went right along with it. I was home for a memorial run this weekend and was snubbed by people I used to consider good friends just because I paid $10,000 for a Nomad "when I could of bought a HD for that price."
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