Dumbass dealer

[bigsid1]

Today i went to the local Kaw dealer and checked my ticket to win ticket. Won 10% off next service. While there i decided to get prices on tires. What a mistake!! Set of avon cobras $665. Yea right. I asked if they would match prices and said yes. So i told them $349 to my door. They said that is less than they pay for them. What a surprise! Now for the real funny part. $288 to instal front and rear tire. I asked why so high and he said-- have to remove the seat,exhaust, rear bar behind wheel, chrome peices between bags and fender,bags, pull out driveshaft, rear saddle bag guards. Of coursed i laughed and said he was crazy. I told him i have rear tires changed before and most of that stuff has nothing to do with a rear tire change. of course i have never in the past and never will in the future deal with these idiots. i'm glad there is an independent m/c shop that does good work nearby.

[AlabamaNomadRider]

Never use a dealer for any type service in my opinion. They are way out of line on prices they charge.

[bigsid1]

Not the price so much as everything they think has to come off the bike to change rear tire. Checked my fore head when i left the dealer and SUCKER wasn't printed on it.

[cactusjack]

Run the other way. Remove the chrome filler strips and driveshaft to replace a rear tire? Has this place ever replaced a rear tire on a Nomad? I wouldn't let these boneheads within 50 feet of my bike.

[bigsid1]

cactus, this dealer is known for screwing people. On their bikes they wont come off msrp and trade in is really low. The only reason they don't go out of business is they are part of a larger company. As far as parts removal on my bike i couldn't tell if he really thought that or if he thought i just didn't know which is probably the case with a lot of people.

[schoeney]

Man that is a rip. This sounds like one of the dealers that give the decent ones a bad rep. Yes there are some decent ones.

If I remove the bags (5 min job) I can have my rear tire changed for $35. I also just found out there is another dealer will do it in town for $16. Neither one requires you buy the tire from them but they will price match so that is where I buy.

I think it is important to the MC community that we do reviews (especially through Google) on the good and bad dealers....it will eventually impact them.

As far as not letting anyone work on your bike that is fine for everyone that has the time, knowledge, facility, tools, and desire. But not everyone has all these.

I do what I can but when it gets beyond my resources/desire it makes more sense to write a check. It is just like any service you enlist....you need to check them out which is pretty easy these days.

[Top Cat]

I was lookin' to buy a Cobra for my rear tire. Dennis Kirk catalog 2011 edition, $178, Tried to order on line, $228. http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif
Called, asked why. That tire has had three price raises in the last month ???
Called dealer, how much for same tire, $245, how much to install,$35.
How much to install if i buy on line,$75. http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif
So if I buy on line total cost installed would be $303
Buy and installed by dealer, $280.
Asked why so much to install if I buy on line, he says"You don't go to Walmart and buy a dozen eggs and take them to a dinner and ask them to cook them for you do you?" http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif
I know,I know, do it myself for free. Not happenin' I do what maintainance I feel comfortable doing, Tire change is not one of those things.

[blowndodge]

I wouldn't let these boneheads within 50 feet of my bike.

Don't you mean your "ex" bike?!! :-/ :-[

[cactusjack]

I wouldn't let these boneheads within 50 feet of my bike.

Don't you mean your "ex" bike?!! :-/ :-[

Yes. Other than the initial "break in" service, I don't plan to let the HD techs work on my new one.

[redjay]

I take my wheels off the bike and take them to the local guy that has good prices on tires.
He charges me $20 to install and balance the tires if I buy the tires there.

[caddman11]

I just got my new Cobras delivered yesterday and with the rebate, both tires were $275. A local shop quoted me 1.5 hours at $65 per hour for the install and that's just handing over the bike.

[Top Cat]

rebate ???
Where did you get two Cobras for $275 ???
It is going to cost me more than that for my rear tire. :-/

[bigsid1]

TC, check Jake Wilson. Avon Cobra 180/70/16 is about $181 free shipping

[Top Cat]

That is what i was at Dennis Kirk also until I tried to order it. Then it showed up as $228. They told me that ire has been increased in price 3 times in a month. ???

[glwilson]

Don't you mean your "ex" bike?!! :-/ :-[

Yes. Other than the initial "break in" service, I don't plan to let the HD techs work on my new one.

How will that work-out with your warranty?

Unless of course you are only speaking of fluid, tire, and other "wearable" changes -- which is allowable. Just wondering. I believe mine has to have some work done only by a certified tech to remain valid. I am going to re-read it to make sure; but let me know what you know.

[wiz]

Wow, I bought my rear Cobra Radial for $195 from my local indelendent shop, Dave's Cyclewerks, and he mounted and balanced it on the wheel I brought in for $20 more. I took the wheel off myself.

[recumbentbob]

Avon Cobra Tire Rebate

http://www.avonmoto.com/download/CobraRebateForm.pdf

[cactusjack]

Yes. Other than the initial "break in" service, I don't plan to let the HD techs work on my new one.

How will that work-out with your warranty?

Unless of course you are only speaking of fluid, tire, and other "wearable" changes -- which is allowable. Just wondering. I believe mine has to have some work done only by a certified tech to remain valid. I am going to re-read it to make sure; but let me know what you know.

I mean routine maintenance. I told the dealer I planned to do my own service when I bought it, and I didn't want their maintenance program. I doubt I will mess with the tires because the ABS brakes have components in the hubs. I still need to buy a service manual and research whether or not removing wheels is something I'd care to do.

They can't force you to have your bike serviced by HD techs only to maintain the warranty, the Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act prevents that.

[coacha]

Mike, what stealership is this? I want to make sure if I ever break down in your area I never go there.

[ringadingh]

That dealer is a crackpot, and he's not the only one out there either.

[bobhamlin]

That is what i was at Dennis Kirk also until I tried to order it. Then it showed up as $228. They told me that ire has been increased in price 3 times in a month. ???

Behind the scenes at Dennis Kirk, sales rep to the guy sitting next to him: "Psst. Hey, remember that guy from New York? Top Cat? I got him on the line. Watch this."

[dakota7557]

My independent mechanic said he would charge me $20 for both tires, if I brought them in. He had both of them changed in less than 30 minutes. I gave him an extra $10 and bought him supper for his trouble and he appeared very satisfied. He has a small shop and was happy to have the business in this economy. If anyone is ever in the Black Hills area, I would be more than happy to point you in his direction. Jody

[jestephens]

cactus, this dealer is known for screwing people. On their bikes they wont come off msrp and trade in is really low. The only reason they don't go out of business is they are part of a larger company. As far as parts removal on my bike i couldn't tell if he really thought that or if he thought i just didn't know which is probably the case with a lot of people.

Some times service and offering at dealerships are so bad, I wonder if they only exist as some sort of money laundering site.

Somebody's keeping that business open to scrub some dollars???

[mobandy78]

How much to install if i buy on line,$75. http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif

I know,I know, do it myself for free. Not happenin' I do what maintainance I feel comfortable doing, Tire change is not one of those things.

I just had a c/t installed at a local shop, the only one that would do it, for $75. Nobody else would touch a c/t install.

Like you, I only do things I'm comfortable with, mainly fluid changes. Tires are not one of them, so I'll pay the fee.

[cactusjack]

cactus, this dealer is known for screwing people. On their bikes they wont come off msrp and trade in is really low. The only reason they don't go out of business is they are part of a larger company. As far as parts removal on my bike i couldn't tell if he really thought that or if he thought i just didn't know which is probably the case with a lot of people.

Some times service and offering at dealerships are so bad, I wonder if they only exist as some sort of money laundering site.

Somebody's keeping that business open to scrub some dollars???

Interesting way of looking at it. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif