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12-30-2008, 04:10 PM | #1 |
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New helmet?
My Basic MSF instructor suggested getting a new helmet every couple years. Reasons: they wear-out with time and normal use plus the new ones keep getting better and lighter. I've had mine 9 years but the one that I would get is on a good sale now. Not looking for make/model recommendations but - do helmets really wear out from normal use or age, assuming they haven't been dropped? Sale ends tomorrow and it is a high-end product so could use some thoughts.
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12-30-2008, 04:44 PM | #2 |
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I would assume...that everytime you put the helmet on you you mush a few cells of the foam...and that over 9-years that have been mushed alot....just a thought, nothing scientific, no proof:)
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12-30-2008, 06:47 PM | #3 |
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I think he has stocks in helmit and tire companies :-/
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12-30-2008, 06:59 PM | #4 |
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The soft foam is just for comfort. The stiffer foam is the crush space, I can't picture it degrading that soon. If it got stiffer over the years that would be bad.
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12-30-2008, 07:51 PM | #5 |
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Googled " when should you replace your motorcycle helmet?"
According to MSF http://www.msf-usa.org/downloads/helmet_CSI.pdf: Why replace your helmet every few years if it doesn't appear damaged? Its protective qualities may deteriorate with time and wear. The chin strap may fray or loosen at its attaching points; the shell could be chipped or damaged. The best reason is that helmets keep improving. Chances are that the helmet you buy in a couple of years will be better – stronger, lighter, and more comfortable – than the one you own now. It might even cost less! According to helmetsup.com:http://helmetsup.com/when-should-rep...lmet-i-25.html A safety motorcycle helmet's useful service life, usually three to five years, is dependent upon the intensity and frequency of its use. According to HJC helmets http://www.hjchelmets.com/helmet_usage.htm Even if your helmet has not been damaged, it needs to be replaced every 3 to 5 years depending on how much you use it. Over time, UV rays and adhesive and component aging will damage your helmet. Wearing a damaged helmet may increase your risk of serious injury or death in an accident. Hope that helps:) Aloha Derry Login or Register to Remove Ads |
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12-31-2008, 02:12 AM | #6 |
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HJC would be interested in selling more products but I don't see a direct connection about how an MSF instructor would benefit from more helmet sales.
Personally, I would like to replace my helmet after 9 or 10 years just do to the sweat and overall use. |
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12-31-2008, 05:47 AM | #7 |
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Every 3-5 years? Heck I don't even change my oil that often!
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12-31-2008, 08:25 AM | #8 |
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wonder what about helmets that have never been used, I got several that I won at poker runs I never put on
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12-31-2008, 10:05 AM | #10 |
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Thanks for the comments. Derry, thanks for showing where the suggestion comes from, seems to be the manufacturers' and MSF party line. The helmet I'm looking at, a full-face is the successor, by one or two generations, to the one I got 9 years ago. It is much lighter, has a wider side view, and better ventilation. I tend to wear my 1/2 dome in warmer weather more because it is lighter, has better side visibility and is cooler. So, knowing the stats for full-face verse other alternatives and the concern about aging helmets... decisions decisions.
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12-31-2008, 11:57 AM | #11 |
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I wear a full face helmet on every ride. Hot or cold. I like my face the way it is, handsome ;)
Hey, I'm just saying.................
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01-01-2009, 11:31 AM | #12 |
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I don't know the "science" but it seems reasonable that the different plastics and foams in the helmet would age and deteriorate over time. They may look fine, but after 3-5 years they might not perform as well as when they were new. It would be interesting to see tests/studies on this.
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01-02-2009, 06:18 PM | #13 |
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From practical experience in football, our helmets have to be replaced about every 5 years. They are totally reconditioned every year and recertified for use. I saw a video awhile back about helmets and fitting that had Jay Leno on it and a guy from Arai (sp). The rep said that most helmets are not fitted correctly and are too large of a shell for the rider. He said that most people should be in a shell size at least one lower with different ear pieces. Just a thought for everyone to ponder. I know I probably should look into this myself.
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01-03-2009, 11:13 AM | #14 |
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Summary for full-face fans -
Well I did it, somewhat pressured by the sale although mostly for the newer features, but also with some concern for the integrity of the nine-year-old one. The improvements are very notable (Shoei RF800 to RF1000 w/ 25% off) and to me well worth the cost regardless of any concerns about the condition of the older one. It's so light you really hardly feel its weight as you swing your head around, the side vision is so much improved that it is dramatic, also the lower vision now allows one to see the Vulcan speedo and lights in the normal riding position. There are more options on ventilation and a chin cover to keep cool air and bugs from coming in under the helmet. I realize that most these advantages would be obtained by just not wearing a helmet in the first place or a smaller one, both of which I do on occasion, but now I'm pretty sure that until the summer heat is too much, I'll be sticking with the new full-face for all my riding. I was reminded, that unlike football helmets, motorcycle helmets are designed for a one time impact and and then should be replaced. My old one did have several scratches and even chips that I don't recall how they got there but must have had a little more abuse than I recall so now that the money is gone I feel pretty good about it. Rode four hours yesterday just relishing it, on top of the usual joys. |
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01-03-2009, 04:39 PM | #15 |
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Congrats on your puchase, wear it well:)
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