Update - 4 MC riders killed -

usranger74 · 01-19-2011, 03:19 PM

http://www.omaha.com/article/2011011...on-i-29-deaths

I don't like the smell of this.

kowboy · 01-19-2011, 03:33 PM

me either ranger,put him in prison with some ha,s or sons of s. then will see what happens.just my opinion.

waterman · 01-19-2011, 03:58 PM

Sounds like the typical pre-trial crap that goes on. He and his lawyers know his arse is grass and they are trying to get something "better" for him. Hopefully the prosecuters don't back down and let him off with a slap on the wrist. He has a alcohol abuse history, they have witnesses about his driving that day and they have the blood alcohol levels and noone else in the vehicle to claim they were driving.

jasonc32amg · 01-19-2011, 04:10 PM

This makes me sick. I see no difference between what this kid did than if he pulled a gun out and shot four people at random. The death penalty would be too kind.

MarkG · 01-19-2011, 04:47 PM

This kind of thing is so wrong. No plea deals of any kind, the man was so far over the limit there should be no question of guilt.

cactusjack · 01-19-2011, 05:23 PM

Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.

**canuckrider** · 01-19-2011, 05:57 PM

"Lefler filed a motion Dec. 29 asking that the alcohol test results and any statements made by Schlichtemeier to investigators be suppressed because his client “was not competent to voluntarily waive any of his rights.”

In other words he was too drunk to understand when the police were reading him his rights. That's pretty much an admission of guilt right there in my books!

bobhamlin · 01-19-2011, 05:59 PM

I could never be a lawyer:

<blockquote>"Lefler filed a motion Dec. 29 asking that the alcohol test results and any statements made by Schlichtemeier to investigators be suppressed because his client “was not competent to voluntarily waive any of his rights.”</blockquote>

So, let me understand. You shouldn't be able to use the evidence because my client was too drunk to know he didn't have to cooperate?

Is this the classic, "Please grant mercy to my client who killed his parents. He is, after all, an orphan!"

**Cajunrider** · 01-19-2011, 06:35 PM

You're right. It does smell bad. No way this can just go away. Keep us updated on this fiasco.

**cnc** · 01-19-2011, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canuckrider

"Lefler filed a motion Dec. 29 asking that the alcohol test results and any statements made by Schlichtemeier to investigators be suppressed because his client “was not competent to voluntarily waive any of his rights.”

In other words he was too drunk to understand when the police were reading him his rights. That's pretty much an admission of guilt right there in my books!

You took the words right out of my mouth. Not competent enough to voluntarily waive his rights, but competent enough to be driving that truck. What a load of crap.

Bull Durham · 01-19-2011, 09:05 PM

The problem is not only with defense attorneys, but also with the DA's or ADA's. A DA / ADA will offer a plea deal as often as they can, just to get the case over with. They look at their case records as a boxer does, so many "wins" to "loses". Made me sick listening to them when they would decide if they would press charges or not, because they didn't "know if they could win".
Sorry, never agreed with that. I didn't care about "their win/lose record", let the jury decide, that's why we supposedly have a justice system the way we do. I always cared about the victims.

aldridgekennedy · 01-19-2011, 10:07 PM

i have to weigh in. I have prosecuted for over 25 years. This has been in federal court, miitary court and in my home state (NC).

First and foremost this clown is a real POS. He does in my opinion deserve the same fate as his victims.

that said, i also sincerely hope he is tried straight up. In my experiencethough i have never encountered an ADA to scared or lazy to try a case out. I have had dockets where i had 100 plus cases to handle in a day. Pleaing is unfortunately a fact of life in some cases.

Lets hope they plea out lesser cases and hold his feet ( and all other body parts ) to the fire.

thanks for hearing me out.

joe3407nomad · 01-20-2011, 12:38 AM

Ah your Honor, I would like to suppress my clients murder weapon , even though there was a chain of evidence , he was given his rights and... he confessed, why you ask? Because he was high and you know when your high IT DON'T COUNT!!!!!

AlabamaNomadRider · 01-20-2011, 12:40 AM

Fry the jerk.

fatrat45 · 01-20-2011, 09:14 AM

what a line of crap. send the little fella to prison with a lot of outlaw bikers and tell them what he did. that will do it he will be a lot of bikers real good friend. if you know what i mean IMO

01-19-2011, 03:19 PM	#1
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01-19-2011, 03:33 PM	#2
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01-19-2011, 03:58 PM	#3
waterman Top Contributor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 6,530	Update - 4 MC riders killed - Sounds like the typical pre-trial crap that goes on. He and his lawyers know his arse is grass and they are trying to get something "better" for him. Hopefully the prosecuters don't back down and let him off with a slap on the wrist. He has a alcohol abuse history, they have witnesses about his driving that day and they have the blood alcohol levels and noone else in the vehicle to claim they were driving. __________________ Joel "Waterman" 2017 HD Road Glide Ultra 2006 Nomad - Sold VBA 213 VROC 16913 Custer 09: Cortez 10: Crescent City 11: Kanab 12: Estes Park 13: Tahoe 14: Red Lodge 16
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01-19-2011, 04:10 PM	#4
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01-19-2011, 05:23 PM	#6
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01-19-2011, 05:57 PM	#7
canuckrider Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Okotoks, AB, Canada Posts: 1,088	Update - 4 MC riders killed - "Lefler filed a motion Dec. 29 asking that the alcohol test results and any statements made by Schlichtemeier to investigators be suppressed because his client “was not competent to voluntarily waive any of his rights.” In other words he was too drunk to understand when the police were reading him his rights. That's pretty much an admission of guilt right there in my books! __________________ "Sun on my face, wind in my hair, sound of my bike in my ears and peace in my soul..." VBA Member #01514 2008 "Ultra" Nomad 1600, Candy Plasma Blue
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01-19-2011, 05:59 PM	#8
bobhamlin Advanced Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Thurmont MD Posts: 760	Update - 4 MC riders killed - I could never be a lawyer: <blockquote>"Lefler filed a motion Dec. 29 asking that the alcohol test results and any statements made by Schlichtemeier to investigators be suppressed because his client “was not competent to voluntarily waive any of his rights.”</blockquote> So, let me understand. You shouldn't be able to use the evidence because my client was too drunk to know he didn't have to cooperate? Is this the classic, "Please grant mercy to my client who killed his parents. He is, after all, an orphan!" __________________ Bob Hamlin RC PGR '06 VN1600D6F
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01-19-2011, 06:35 PM	#9
Cajunrider Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: (SE Louisiana) Posts: 8,340	Update - 4 MC riders killed - You're right. It does smell bad. No way this can just go away. Keep us updated on this fiasco. __________________ 2016 Electra Glide Ultra Limited CVO Palladium Silver / Phantom Blue 110 cu in SE 2012 Electra Glide Ultra Limited (Traded 6/22/16) Tequila Sunrise / HD Orange Vance & Hines true dual headers Rinehart 4" slip ons Screamin Eagle Super Tuner Screamin Eagle Stage 1 intake Dyno tuned H.O.G.# 4514015 2007 Nomad 1600 (Traded 6/23/12) VBA #482
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01-19-2011, 09:05 PM	#11
Bull Durham Advanced Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Pittsburgh, PA area Posts: 785	Update - 4 MC riders killed - The problem is not only with defense attorneys, but also with the DA's or ADA's. A DA / ADA will offer a plea deal as often as they can, just to get the case over with. They look at their case records as a boxer does, so many "wins" to "loses". Made me sick listening to them when they would decide if they would press charges or not, because they didn't "know if they could win". Sorry, never agreed with that. I didn't care about "their win/lose record", let the jury decide, that's why we supposedly have a justice system the way we do. I always cared about the victims. __________________ 2005 Kawasaki Nomad VBA #1608 KZR #25622
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01-19-2011, 10:07 PM	#12
aldridgekennedy Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Garner, NC Posts: 200	Update - 4 MC riders killed - i have to weigh in. I have prosecuted for over 25 years. This has been in federal court, miitary court and in my home state (NC). First and foremost this clown is a real POS. He does in my opinion deserve the same fate as his victims. that said, i also sincerely hope he is tried straight up. In my experiencethough i have never encountered an ADA to scared or lazy to try a case out. I have had dockets where i had 100 plus cases to handle in a day. Pleaing is unfortunately a fact of life in some cases. Lets hope they plea out lesser cases and hold his feet ( and all other body parts ) to the fire. thanks for hearing me out.
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01-20-2011, 12:38 AM	#13
joe3407nomad Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Upstate South Carolina Posts: 265	Update - 4 MC riders killed - Ah your Honor, I would like to suppress my clients murder weapon , even though there was a chain of evidence , he was given his rights and... he confessed, why you ask? Because he was high and you know when your high IT DON'T COUNT!!!!!
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01-20-2011, 12:40 AM	#14
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01-20-2011, 09:14 AM	#15
fatrat45 Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Tuscaloosa Alabama Posts: 341	Update - 4 MC riders killed - what a line of crap. send the little fella to prison with a lot of outlaw bikers and tell them what he did. that will do it he will be a lot of bikers real good friend. if you know what i mean IMO __________________ Randy (fatrat) May Tuscaloosa, Al. Back Road Riders MC. VBA # 290 2006 Black Nomad
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