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Old 02-20-2012, 09:49 AM   #106
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We always used air in the beammers
it was a standard upgrade for most of the bikes my dad sold
Nice thing about overload springs is put them in and forget it
Newer beemers have ESA or Electronic Suspension Adjustment. I can set the preload to one up, one up with luggage and two up. I also have three dampening settings that I can change on the fly as well. I have ESA I. The new bikes have more settings and I think they can change the preload on the fly too, but I am not sure. My bike was the last year for ESA I.
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Old 02-20-2012, 09:50 AM   #107
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Im sure you could make a set of stiffer springs if you started looking at all the different spring rates used on shocks.
We used to assemble our own shocks for snowmobile racing, depending on the sled and riders combined weight.
In the world of shocks, Ohlins are suppose to be the cats ass. They will build to suit.
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I think we used Fox shocks back then, but you could assemble them from a variety of parts, and we used nitrogen to gas them up.
On the twin track sleds, each shock had different spring rates and settings on it. Since the only turned left on the track, you could really fine tune them for the corners.
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Old 02-25-2012, 11:52 AM   #109
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Here's how my day has gone so far. Measure, measure, measure, drill, shit the hole's off, plug in the Dremel, open up the hole, measure, Dremel, cuss. Move on to the next hole to be drilled. Measure, measure, measure, drill, shit the hole's off, Dremel, etc, etc. And still don't have the bloody thing mounted on the bike. Oh, and I need some shorter bolts.
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Its easy to shorten bolts with a Dremel.
So far my day is sitting in the library here at the universaty waiting for my daughter.
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Old 02-25-2012, 01:05 PM   #111
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Are you center punching the holes first and using a smaller diameter drill first. Ideally you should center punch then use a center drill or starter drill to get the hole just right.

What Steve says about shortening bolts, just spin a nut on before cutting, then when you take the nut off it will clean up the thread.
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That's what I'll do with the bolts. I'm NOT making yet another trip to town to the hardware store. Just not gonna happen. Unfortunately, I noticed something else after I drilled the holes for the bolts. Originally, HD had 2 holes in the middle of the fairing to bolt the bracket to. I thought I'd be smart and use 4 bolts for strength. Once I looked at it, I realized that the bolts might be in the way of the headlights (it has 2). I'll cut off the bolts and see if the headlights still fit.

I've worked on this thing most of the night and all day (until about an hour ago). As usual, I've worked hard and accomplished next to nothing. It's a sloppy job at best. I've given myself an ultimatum. If I don't get the fairing successfully mounted tonight (no trim, no wiring, no details, no paint...just mounted as to be rideable), I'm moving on to a batwing. I can do a batwing in a long weekend as it's almost completely bolt on (I already have gauges, stereo, speakers, lightbar, etc). I can sell both TG fairings for what I'd spend on an inner/outer fairing, windshield, headlight bucket and brackets. I'm already looking on eBay and called the local HD dealership. (Unfortunately, the dealer just threw a bunch of "old" parts out last month. Stuff they figured they weren't selling.) I've learned my limits and this fairing project isn't worth the stress (which I don't deal with well anyway). It'll be riding season soon and I'd rather spend what little time I have getting a project done instead of screwing around with fabricating stuff.
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Are you center punching the holes first and using a smaller diameter drill first. Ideally you should center punch then use a center drill or starter drill to get the hole just right.

What Steve says about shortening bolts, just spin a nut on before cutting, then when you take the nut off it will clean up the thread.
Yup. Bought a center punch special just for this project. Trying to measure and/or mark the location is part of the problem. I'm just not good at this stuff. I'm not bad at bolting stuff on but this stuff is just beyond me. Everyone has their talents. This isn't mine.
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Here's how my day has gone so far. Measure, measure, measure, drill, shit the hole's off, plug in the Dremel, open up the hole, measure, Dremel, cuss. Move on to the next hole to be drilled. Measure, measure, measure, drill, shit the hole's off, Dremel, etc, etc. And still don't have the bloody thing mounted on the bike. Oh, and I need some shorter bolts.
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We'll see how things go tonight. Either it's mounted or it's over. I'm not looking for pity, but I've reached my limit.
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That's what I'll do with the bolts. I'm NOT making yet another trip to town to the hardware store. Just not gonna happen. Unfortunately, I noticed something else after I drilled the holes for the bolts. Originally, HD had 2 holes in the middle of the fairing to bolt the bracket to. I thought I'd be smart and use 4 bolts for strength. Once I looked at it, I realized that the bolts might be in the way of the headlights (it has 2). I'll cut off the bolts and see if the headlights still fit.

I've worked on this thing most of the night and all day (until about an hour ago). As usual, I've worked hard and accomplished next to nothing. It's a sloppy job at best. I've given myself an ultimatum. If I don't get the fairing successfully mounted tonight (no trim, no wiring, no details, no paint...just mounted as to be rideable), I'm moving on to a batwing. I can do a batwing in a long weekend as it's almost completely bolt on (I already have gauges, stereo, speakers, lightbar, etc). I can sell both TG fairings for what I'd spend on an inner/outer fairing, windshield, headlight bucket and brackets. I'm already looking on eBay and called the local HD dealership. (Unfortunately, the dealer just threw a bunch of "old" parts out last month. Stuff they figured they weren't selling.) I've learned my limits and this fairing project isn't worth the stress (which I don't deal with well anyway). It'll be riding season soon and I'd rather spend what little time I have getting a project done instead of screwing around with fabricating stuff.
Take a break and a deep breath.
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OK, your frustrated Chris. Don't give yourself a deadline, instead sit down relax have a beer or what ever. When things don't go right for me, I put it aside, go on to something else and attack it the next day with fresh eyes and enthusiasm.
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Old 02-25-2012, 01:35 PM   #118
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it would be a shame to stop this close to the end
Like they said step back and take a breath watch the nascar race or something and then dive back in
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Im going through the same shit on my faring
I spent the hole morning replacing glass that i had trimmed off
and most of last week moving the hole upper 4" forward to make it look right
plus a pile of bent bar trying to get the handelbars right. Im right where I was 2 weeks ago
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That's why I'm going to bed and trying again tonight. The big hurdle right now is mounting it. I've done such a sloppy job of other parts that it'll take a lot of work to cover stuff up but it will still be ridable even if it looks crappy (and it does). I'm trying to take it one step at a time but there's a ton of stuff left to do before it's even close to being ridable. Meh. We'll see.
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