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12-14-2012, 11:15 AM | #46 |
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Gentlemen Gentlemen Gentlemen.
There is a lot about how this site is ran that I don't understand but we've all had it beat into our heads, "this is NOT a democracy" so we need to get over it. I'm actually surprised nobody saw this coming? Really? I can't be that clairvoyant? A while back I threw my concerns about how changing our name and who runs the site and donation drives and premium annual fees? I express those thoughts because I saw the change coming. This site is now a Business Forum plain and simple. Get your mind off the fact that it's still a site where old friends belly up to the bar and talk about anything anymore. It's regulated, socialized, packaged as a business with ads and ran as one. The only power you have is that your granted the privilege to post. Period.
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12-14-2012, 11:23 AM | #47 | |
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12-14-2012, 01:30 PM | #48 | |
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By then my rating will not matter!
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12-14-2012, 02:58 PM | #49 | |
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Do you even believe the crap you're spewing? Do you even know how much it costs to run a forum this size? Do you even know how little is made from the 'ads'? Do you even know how much time and effort is required to maintain this place? I let everyone have their say, and you had your's. Now, back it up. I'm waiting.. back up your claims. Support them with evidence. How did this forum change at all from the original format? You're telling me it has changed so drastically simply by the addition of a donation program (which is totally up to the member if they want to help out the forum)? Really? Hasn't that always been around anyway? So again, let's hear some facts to back up your claims. I'm waiting.. |
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12-14-2012, 02:59 PM | #50 | |
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It is still the best motorcycle forum to socialize on and get answers to questions in my opinion.
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12-14-2012, 03:05 PM | #51 |
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12-14-2012, 03:10 PM | #52 |
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Some of these guys would bitch if you hung them with a new rope. They are an uncouth lot.
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12-14-2012, 03:41 PM | #53 | |
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I love my Victory Cross Country Tour 106. Smells like Victory! Ultra's are Limited There are two types of Harley riders. Those that trailer them and those that push them. The most Interesting Man in the World "Find the things in life you don't do well and don't do those things" Member # 0005 |
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12-14-2012, 04:19 PM | #54 |
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Still waiting...
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12-14-2012, 07:13 PM | #55 |
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I except Trip turning over the site to a non member that we didn't know. I ain't got the foggiest clue why he did but it is what it is.
From that point on, running this site sure wasn't going to be gratis. It's not. The site started raising "capital" with Premium membership and more ads. Yea, other sites do it but we didn't. We threw some money into the Kitty when Trip asked us too "for the cause". We also sold a few items like patches and cups and shirts. Trip informed us that he made no money whatsoever and was lucky to break even. Settle my "paranoia" Mike. Is this site getting paid for the advertisements? Is this new forum a non-profit organization and registered as such? Exempt from taxes? Or does is operate in the black? Is this forum linked with other sites that benefit you monetarily in any way? Do you plan to have a "pay pal" account associated with this site or link to it in the future? Amazon Link? The rating the transaction I know raised more than just my red flag. Are you doing this for Trip solely on the merit of loving to ride Baggers and giving him a hand and not making a profit and doing the web design and work on your own time free of charge? All the staff handle the regional rides, organize rides make hotel reservations for the group, raise money with raffles etc. etc. Are they doing this for free for the love and camaraderie? How many rides and regional rallies or National rallies have you done free of charge with all the work the staff partakes in? Organizing the day's rides. Getting releases signed and disclaimers collected? Any motorcycle advice given to the members? Free of charge? Take your time and answer each question.
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I love my Victory Cross Country Tour 106. Smells like Victory! Ultra's are Limited There are two types of Harley riders. Those that trailer them and those that push them. The most Interesting Man in the World "Find the things in life you don't do well and don't do those things" Member # 0005 |
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12-14-2012, 08:00 PM | #56 |
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I'm thinking that boat has long ago sailed........
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12-14-2012, 08:04 PM | #57 |
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He asked?
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I love my Victory Cross Country Tour 106. Smells like Victory! Ultra's are Limited There are two types of Harley riders. Those that trailer them and those that push them. The most Interesting Man in the World "Find the things in life you don't do well and don't do those things" Member # 0005 |
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12-14-2012, 08:43 PM | #58 | |
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Whoa, you really are out there. Kinda makes me feel a little better though, since it's obviously a case of ignorance. Now, I'm not calling you ignorant, you just really have no clue as to what's going on here.
Let me try to do my best, but I'm running on limited time... My replies will be in bold.. Quote:
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12-14-2012, 09:08 PM | #59 |
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Nope. i accept you answers.
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I love my Victory Cross Country Tour 106. Smells like Victory! Ultra's are Limited There are two types of Harley riders. Those that trailer them and those that push them. The most Interesting Man in the World "Find the things in life you don't do well and don't do those things" Member # 0005 |
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12-14-2012, 10:59 PM | #60 |
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I don't know. It rained here today as well as Chandler, AZ according to CJ. Didn't know what to do.
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