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Both of those are the Doebeck TFI plug and play.
The Kuryakyn just has their label on it. Plug and play means they connect to the existing wires with crimp on connectors. While they work, I personally don't like the crimp on connectors. They can work loose or in the worse case, cut into the existing wires. You do have the option of cutting off the connectors and soldering the wires which is what I would have done if the one I bought had been the plug and play version. Yeah, I know. When it comes to wiring I'm anal. It comes from my Air Force training and 30 plus years as a Field Engineer in the computer industry.
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Yes to both. You found the rebranded TFI and i was unable in the few seconds i spent to tell if it is the older type solder on or the other at amazon which is plug n play.
I am assuming you would prefer the plug n play. The solder on is only soldering for 2 wires. These 2 wires are a bit difficult to reach though, but i still prefer that to plug n play, probably due to I can solder and at the time there was no other choice. If it happens solder on is what you get, my way is to solder on pig tails to the 2 wires at the ECU, and then use std shielded spade connectors, so the TFI can be removed completely from the bike in seconds.
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So far as i know there are 2 plug in that mount directly on the injectors and then the injector connectors plug in to the TFI on the top.The plug n play get power straight from the injector pulse unlike the old solder on. The last wire besides these 2 connector plugs is ground, and can go to any decent ground. That's it un do both injectors and add on the plugs to TFI and ground it. I think guys have done this will just raising the gas tank.
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Yellow,
You said "anal" but what does that have to do with TC? Mac, I like to solder, do it for all my stuff, so I don't have a problem with that. That's a good idea about the pig tails on it. I wonder if the solder type are even cheaper than the plug and pray.
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I can edit words too Bull.
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Good one, TC! Was just making sure you were paying attention! Always love your humor on the forum!!
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Bull, I have no idea if you can buy the old fashion type. If you can it will have 4 wires.
One to come On with the key, one to be ground, and 2 to the ecu. The wires on the ECU are not for the color blind by any means! I have no idea if you are, and I am not, but still it is hell with the pastle colors they have there. There is a green/gray blue and a green/pink and then there is a gray/pink and telling which pink is which is hard. For me i get my Bride, and then because she is a woman and I don't believe her I still probe the terminal number to the correct wire for a reading of Closed circuit. Then i cut wires and set to solder. I reverse the male/female insulated terminals too, but it makes no difference which goes where. The only reason I cut the ECU wires is because i can't get shrink wrap on the wire with out the cutting. So once the wire is cut the first thing I do is add shrink wrap, then I solder the wire back with the pig tail on it. Then do the next. Run the TFI wire thru the cover back where the velcro will be, plug in the TFI to the ECU, solder on the red wire to the running lights for a keyed circuit, and ground to the battery hold down acorn nut on the left. The 2 hardest things are seeing which pink wire is the right one and getting the blasted battery out on a 1600. Worst battery box I have ever seen on anything yet. The 1500 was cake. Some engineers aren't!
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If I have any problems with the pink wires, I'll just ask TC...
I know I started out with why wouldn't you put a tach on a bike, here's my other gripe: Why wouldn't you make the bike seat hinged, like on the old bikes? I think it's ridiculous to have to use a #8 wrench on the seat to be able to get to your battery! And trying to get the damn little bolt back in the hole without stripping the threads, nuts. I ended up getting the same size bolt, just a little longer, and come up from underneath the rear fender with a flat head screw, so I can just "drop" the seat onto the bolt thru the seat hole, then it's a lot easier to put a nut on and tighten it down. Thanks for all the info Mac, I'm going to look give it some serious consideration when I get back from my trip.
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I have a 2011 vaquero with7400 miles and18 months old has a wobble in front end at low speed jacked the front end up and a little play in the forks put new tires onit 1400 miles ago. Took it to the dealer and was told normal wear and tear pay to fix it 7400 miles seams to soon to ware out. Put new tires under it at 6200 miles michlin comander ll front and back. Called rep he said same thing need your help on this one Thanks All.
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BC RED VAQ...... I have no idea what you did but your in the 1500 / 1600 room on a thread about being anal
This has nothing to do with wobble unless the wobble is anal! Is It? This I think is where you want to be http://www.vulcanbagger.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=29894 i sure hope so... Bull I am not to sure TC can fix up any thing pink. I am fairly certain that is correct and true info no matter what anyone else says. As to hinged seats i hated them, BUT i agree instead of a bolt there should be a quick release latch, and 2 dawgs that lock up on the other end. Something happened in the industry, but I can't put a finger on it. What i think is a lot of quasi engineers supposedly graduated and not one of them had any idea about hands on anything. Never had a hang nail, never got a blister, and most important never got into any grease or dirt, much less rust. And last the real kicker never rode a real motorcycle. As much as I like the 15's and 16's Nomads they are full of pet peeves. On my 81 triple yammi i can work on the valves and or the cam and it's cahin with the engine in the frame, and I can do most anything I want with the case in the frame to include yank the pistons. But i like that the seat pops off with one latch. I don't like the way the cam tensioner is on Vulcans, and am not happy that the water pump is chain driven and or that is shares a oil and water seal on the same shaft. I really don't like no possible way to set fuel mix from the factory and or the the fact there is no possible preload on the swing arm. There is more.... But never the less i think the Nomad still delivers the best bang for the buck. I am not sold on the 1700's in any shape and form.. At best they may be a slight bit faster. But as i see it are not the long distance 2 up bike the 15's 0r 16's are.
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The connectors are matched to the connectors on the injectors. I agree with Bob, if it meant using crimp connectors, then solder. But this setup just plugs in. It's as solid as the bikes factory connection. You don't need to solder.
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That makes a difference. I couldn't tell from the pictures that was how they connected. Should have found my glasses I guess.
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