macmac, you are wrong.

[rlfaubion]

Well let me add to the confusion - I am debaffled, gutted the goat, removed the silencers and added the 1K Ohm resistor mod. I run 87 octane at sea level in temps over 100 degrees in summer without any ping and have plenty of power through the band running two-up. So I don't know what these guys are talking about either.

I've also had a 1600 with V&H, Kury Air Kit and PCIII. The only difference was the later gave me a few more horses and a lot more noise. OH, and the latter was a lot more money.

We're facing the possibility of smog checks here in California so I also have a stock set of pipes and goat. I've still spent less than all that other stuff costs for so little gain.

[claybuster]

Originally Posted by ridemslow

10-4 -- I had planned to gut the goat, debaffle was something I didn't really plan on, but allowing it to breath out(exhale) was what I was thinking. ::) Hell what do I know? ???

All I did was debaffled the stock pipes and added a TFI to eliminate the ping. I was not looking for power gains or loud pipes like I had on my 800 Vulcan with Vance & Hines Cruiser pipes. I wanted to be able to still talk back and forth with my wife when riding 2 up. Not a problem at all with debaffled pipes. I did not modify the goat belly or intake, they are still totally stock and I'm really satisfied with it as it is and the way it runs now.
I do notice a slight power increase since the TFI was installed. My MPG varies between 34-42 depending on my riding style and the speeds I run.
Follow BD's instructions for doing the debaffle, it's easy and the TFI install is also very easy. Best if you remove the tank when it is low on fuel. Removing the tank is so easy too. After having mine off on 3 different occassions it only takes about 10 minutes to remove it now. The debaffled mufflers are a little louder then stock with a deeper mellow tone. You can hear them while cruising at any speed, a mellow sound not annoying to you or your passenger. I know a few riders that ride with loud pipes and wear ear plugs, you won't need ear plugs with debaffled mufflers.
I wanted to try the debaffled first before spending $400-$500 on aftermarket pipes then find out my wife would think they are to loud for riding 2 up and talking back and forth. Friends we ride with have V&H pipes and they are OK and sound good too but after reading on this forum and the Delphi Forum about all of the quality issues of V&H pipes cracking it changed my mind about V&H. They do not have a lifetime warranty like Cobra pipes do. The Cobras don't sound much louder at cruising speeds then my debaffled do. The stock exhaust on our bikes is by far the best quality in material and workmanship, that is why I felt best staying with the stock exhaust setup.
Hope this helps ease your decision and not make it more complicated.
Glenn

[johnb]

Mac should write a book on the Nomad or at least on motorcycle mechanics. His style reminds me of the old book for VW Bugs by John Muir, How to Keep Your Volkswagen Alive : A Manual of Step-By-Step Procedures for the Complete Idiot. It was full of practical solutions to doing mechanical work and how to do the work when you don't have a full set of tools. It even took you through an engine rebuild. Anyway...I appreciate Mac's depth of knowledge and it doesn't matter how you learn it. Street smarts many times solves problems cheaper, quicker and better that book smarts can.

[macmac]

Originally Posted by trjam

be smart and leave your bike stock, or buy a set of aftermarket pipies with a TFI.

Now that is exactly what I did in the first place.

My 01 got a set of V&H baggers and they got stolen with the bike.

So I bought a 06 in 06 used all stock, and bought it a set of baggers too, along with another Caddman kit and another TFI.

All the stock parts are in a box in the cellar.

I have also recently installed a Road House system, and like it alot, other than the higher price. That bike's stock parts are still here in the same crate the RH set up was in.

With either system you can modify the mufflers to be your way.

If and When you do you are bound to getting either the Cobra or the TFI fuel modual. Then it is a good idea to do the Caddman if you want the power and the power is well worth it.

If you go in steps, the first thing to buy and do is the Cobra/TFI, then the exhaust, and last the Caddman...

It is bet to do all 3 at once.

I know all about No Dough, but to me this is like getting a tour pack in black, and not having a rack or the paint to set it up the first time with..

With out a rack you can't use the tour pack at all, and you won't be happy if it is black and your bike is some other color..

I am struggling with the idea of this now abnd can get a tour bags set up for $109.00 in leather like stuff, which I like ok..

Real leather has a place, but to me that is not on a bike, and this is my only exception to real leather.

SO, for under a GRAND you can get better looks and more POWER with either system.

The last thing is about INTAKES. These intake set ups are all about the same. A Cad kit will do what any other kit does except be pretty. It really doesn't matter if you get paper filters, cloth filters or K&N filters.

Other than looks mostly these are the same...

And then there is the Hyper Charger, which looks cool, but costs more than any other set up.... If I could buy a hyper charger I would, but I know it is just looks and no more than looks.

All it is is a big air filter.... period. The 2 flappers flap and probably I would just have mine set up open, and maybe hand close them when the engine is off and the bike is parked.

The flappers don't do anything but flap, and to make them flap engine vacuum is used. There is a spring that holds the flappers open when there is no engine vacuum, which means the flappers are open when the bike is off.

The flappers probably interfear with mix and most definately interfear with air flow from idle to high mid rpm ranges, so they are just for show and no more go.

A Charge must have impelors that pack more air in that is in normal atmousphere to be a charger in the first place.

A Super charger has impellors as does a turbo charger. The difference between these systems is the turbo runs off exhaust gasses, while the super charger runs by some mechanic means.

The Hyper charger doesn't run off either, because there are no impellors..

When you buy a Hyper Charger you are buying bling and only bling... Think of them like big boobies and ya got it about right, as they do just about the same thing to most red blooded males!

[macmac]

Originally Posted by johnb

Mac should write a book on the Nomad or at least on motorcycle mechanics. His style reminds me of the old book for VW Bugs by John Muir, How to Keep Your Volkswagen Alive : A Manual of Step-By-Step Procedures for the Complete Idiot. It was full of practical solutions to doing mechanical work and how to do the work when you don't have a full set of tools. It even took you through an engine rebuild. Anyway...I appreciate Mac's depth of knowledge and it doesn't matter how you learn it. Street smarts many times solves problems cheaper, quicker and better that book smarts can.

LOL, I used to have a copy of that book, which was great readin' even though I didn't need the book to do up a thing on any VW of that time. I still have nightmares about leaking push rod tubes and clyinder #3 toasting exhaust valves..

I built atleast 1,000 vw bug engines if i built one. At my best at the dealer, a independant shop really I could R&R a clutch in 15 minutes flat. I liked that on flat rate pretty well. I could do the same on a 140 series Volvo in 45 minutes with no lift at all.

I know I am nuthin but a long hair country fool, who simply refuses to grow up. I got no use for being fusissycated, and not much use for money, which gets me into the strangest things when I want something.

I still drive a old beater volvo turbo, new in 85', and it still goes fast too, but I did take the TURBO logo off.

In 03 I painted it Patriot Blue, because it needed paint, after it got new body parts I made. I used stiff paper to make up the shapes of all the missing parts, then I made the parts in as many pieces as it took to make them.

Somewhere in that time I lost the turn signal dash side lenses, which were about the size of a dime each. These discs were black to hold in your hand and green if a light was held on the other side, and I lost both of them.

Well there was no way I was going to a dealer to pay who knows what and wait 10 to 14 days, so hunted around for 'something'.

'Something' turned out to be a empty Quakerstate oil bottle, and with my gasket bolt hole cutter I had 2 lenses just like that! They still work just fine too.

I won't bore you guys with the pics of how bad that car was then, but if you want, you can see them here. There was a lot of metal just all gone when I started. Some pics appear very stange as you can see the gray wood deck looking thru the car!

http://s290.photobucket.com/albums/ll275/Mac_Muz/Volvo/


You can see how I used a junk yard find of the 2 inner plastic front fenders installed on the rear fender wells, and they work pissa!

"pissa" is a old yanquize term fer dammned good!

[dogdoc]

I bought a TFI and V&H pipes and Im very happy. No ping on 87, great power, little loss of mpg. Turn off the TFI IF my state ever does emissions tests and were back to stock. Drive home and reset the TFI til next yr. it doesn't get any better.

[stewdogg]

Originally Posted by macmac

LOL, I used to have a copy of that book, which was great readin' even though I didn't need the book to do up a thing on any VW of that time. I still have nightmares about leaking push rod tubes and clyinder #3 toasting exhaust valves..

I built atleast 1,000 vw bug engines if i built one. At my best at the dealer, a independant shop really I could R&R a clutch in 15 minutes flat. I liked that on flat rate pretty well. I could do the same on a 140 series Volvo in 45 minutes with no lift at all.

I know I am nuthin but a long hair country fool, who simply refuses to grow up. I got no use for being fusissycated, and not much use for money, which gets me into the strangest things when I want something.

I still drive a old beater volvo turbo, new in 85', and it still goes fast too, but I did take the TURBO logo off.

In 03 I painted it Patriot Blue, because it needed paint, after it got new body parts I made. I used stiff paper to make up the shapes of all the missing parts, then I made the parts in as many pieces as it took to make them.

Somewhere in that time I lost the turn signal dash side lenses, which were about the size of a dime each. These discs were black to hold in your hand and green if a light was held on the other side, and I lost both of them.

Well there was no way I was going to a dealer to pay who knows what and wait 10 to 14 days, so hunted around for 'something'.

'Something' turned out to be a empty Quakerstate oil bottle, and with my gasket bolt hole cutter I had 2 lenses just like that! They still work just fine too.

I won't bore you guys with the pics of how bad that car was then, but if you want, you can see them here. There was a lot of metal just all gone when I started. Some pics appear very stange as you can see the gray wood deck looking thru the car!

http://s290.photobucket.com/albums/ll275/Mac_Muz/Volvo/


You can see how I used a junk yard find of the 2 inner plastic front fenders installed on the rear fender wells, and they work pissa!

"pissa" is a old yanquize term fer dammned good!

Mac
Don't you have a garage to spray/work in?
Do you not have bugs in the mountains?

I have had a hell of a time keeping bugs out of paint. I think it's like crack to them. My Nomad is a garage job.

The Volvo looks good from the pics.

[macmac]

Originally Posted by stewdogg

Mac
Don't you have a garage to spray/work in?
Do you not have bugs in the mountains?

I have had a hell of a time keeping bugs out of paint. I think it's like crack to them. My Nomad is a garage job.

The Volvo looks good from the pics.

No I don't have a house muchless a garage.. I had a tent but if you looked at the pics enough you saw I didn't have that tent long.. 3rd snow took it down before I could get it cleared off.

My liberty bike was painted in the shower at the other apt.. There was a skylight I made up a furnace filter for and a window I had another filter and fan in.

The painting was done on a tuna swivel and a Lazy Susan.

I wish I had the right places to do stuff, but I don't and I won't wait around till I do.... That could be never!

Yeah I got a few bugs in the car, but hey it's a car..

Go see Liberty My very first paint!

[bobhamlin]

Originally Posted by johnb

Mac should write a book on the Nomad or at least on motorcycle mechanics. His style reminds me of the old book for VW Bugs by John Muir, How to Keep Your Volkswagen Alive : A Manual of Step-By-Step Procedures for the Complete Idiot. It was full of practical solutions to doing mechanical work and how to do the work when you don't have a full set of tools. It even took you through an engine rebuild.

I'm in the training field, and I hold that book to be one of the finest instructional manuals ever written. That book and "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" appeared to me about the same time in my life and I am different -- personally and professionally -- because of them.

The VW book stepped outside the "Do this, then do that" frame. I had a '68 bus, no mechanical experience and, with that book, I successfully dropped, worked on and re-installed the engine several times.

Both books stress that if you take time to understand the logic, diagnosis and repair is straight-forward. My tendency is to jump to conclusions too quickly. Many times, if I give myself some thinking time, corrective solutions present themselves very politely.

[taranis]

ok mac, I agree with your wife - write a book, dammit!

[macmac]

Well...... this is sort of a shamless plug... the truth is I did write some stuff about the trip dated pretty much at this point, but thar's no sence rushing into these things.... is there?

I didn't want to write and then try to market and sell anything but my wife conned me into it and her art workings are worth what ever she says!

So she illustrated it, which is nice, but it isn't any How To, or at least I don't think it is as I ain't no minister, but it is based on life as I know it.

In the book the trip ends in Cal, and maybe the rest of tail will be in some other book. I was having issues with getting back east to have the bike stolen.

I am still not over that. And just last year I rode the last part after waiting since the day the bike was stolen to make that trip what I wanted of it.

Now this heya' picture is the Badlands a really up close close up of rocks, maybe 4 square inches of rock, and my wife altered the rocks and placed our likenesses in it..

I am putting it here because of the recent national you guys rode, and because i can