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View Poll Results: Are you going to the Beartooth "Unofficial" Rally in 2016?
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Old 11-30-2015, 10:22 PM   #196
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Compared to 30K for a Gold Wing, GTL or Roadmaster.

23K to me was not real cheap in cost.
I was just kidding... It is a lot of money.



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Old 11-30-2015, 10:26 PM   #197
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One problem for me with any of the sports touring or Goldwings is leg position. I can't take that position for long. Even they may have every do-dad thinkable and power up the wazoo I will never look at them.
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Old 11-30-2015, 11:42 PM   #198
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One problem for me with any of the sports touring or Goldwings is leg position. I can't take that position for long. Even they may have every do-dad thinkable and power up the wazoo I will never look at them.


Boy Joel.... I feel the exact opposite about riding position. The taller and more neutral position is a lot easier on this old body. The laid-back cruiser position is a lot of pressure on the tailbone after a few hundred miles.
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Old 12-01-2015, 12:19 AM   #199
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One problem for me with any of the sports touring or Goldwings is leg position. I can't take that position for long. Even they may have every do-dad thinkable and power up the wazoo I will never look at them.
That's funny. I can't take the cruiser position for long. I don't have much padding on my ass and my pelvic and tail bones hurt shortly after riding. Even with a Mustang seat, I could do may be 120 miles without stopping on my Nomad, stock seat 60-75 miles. As crappy as the BMW seat is, I can do about 200. The feet under me creates a suspension of sorts and I can handle the bike better by using feet and knee pressure that I never could do on a cruiser.
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Compared to 30K for a Gold Wing, GTL or Roadmaster.

23K to me was not real cheap in cost.
Deals can be made for a few thousand less on those if you shop around, but the same could be said of the Victory's too. I look at in terms of price brackets: Under 20K, 20-25K and over 25K. There are bikes and good values in each. it all depends on what one wants to spend.
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I might be able to justify that kind of cash for a bike if I lived where I could ride more months out of the year.

Maybe someday when I become a "snowbird" .
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Boy Joel.... I feel the exact opposite about riding position. The taller and more neutral position is a lot easier on this old body. The laid-back cruiser position is a lot of pressure on the tailbone after a few hundred miles.
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That's funny. I can't take the cruiser position for long. I don't have much padding on my ass and my pelvic and tail bones hurt shortly after riding. Even with a Mustang seat, I could do may be 120 miles without stopping on my Nomad, stock seat 60-75 miles. As crappy as the BMW seat is, I can do about 200. The feet under me creates a suspension of sorts and I can handle the bike better by using feet and knee pressure that I never could do on a cruiser.
My tail bone has never been an issue. It still goes back to my knees. Having a position where I can move my legs into several positions is better for me. Having my legs tucked under me puts my legs to sleep and my knees hurt.
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Just saw a 2012 BMW 1600GTL on craigslist with 27K on it. They are asking 16K for it. That's almost a 8-10K drop from new. That's not very good resale value. Just putting that out there...
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Just saw a 2012 BMW 1600GTL on craigslist with 27K on it. They are asking 16K for it. That's almost a 8-10K drop from new. That's not very good resale value. Just putting that out there...
That's true for that model, but most people don't care about resale and those that do probably don't keep their bikes long. I paid 12K and change for my 2007 nomad new and got 6750 3 and half years later. That's pretty bad too. YMMV.

The reason for the lower resale on the first K bikes is that they had some issues that were later worked out. I wouldn't buy a 2012-2013 K bike and even with a newer one I'd get an extended warranty to take it out an additional 4 years. If something breaks, it's going to hurt if the owner has to pay for it. The R bikes are a better bet for reliability and are lighter/handle even better, but they don't have the power and torque of the K1600. I do know of a few K bikes of that vintage that have over 100K miles on them already, so whatever the issues, it's not universal. Then again there are some BMWs with 300-500K miles and the original engine.
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Just saw a 2012 BMW 1600GTL on craigslist with 27K on it. They are asking 16K for it. That's almost a 8-10K drop from new. That's not very good resale value. Just putting that out there...
I agree.

I figure I have eight years of riding left after I get a BMW.

It looks like BMW sells bikes like cars and have different ways for owning a bike.
One that I am very interested in is the Lease like buying. I could trade in the bike after 4 years and get a brand new one keep it for another 4 years then sell it. Two bikes for the price of one... kind of. Not to mention that would also make it eight years of warranty coverage.

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One problem for me with any of the sports touring or Goldwings is leg position. I can't take that position for long. Even they may have every do-dad thinkable and power up the wazoo I will never look at them.


Boy Joel.... I feel the exact opposite about riding position. The taller and more neutral position is a lot easier on this old body. The laid-back cruiser position is a lot of pressure on the tailbone after a few hundred miles.
at least a couple of us have figured out that the sport touring feet under the
but riding position is the only way to go with our ageing bodies.on another note
I am hoping that one of the planned short rides for Monday will be a drag race
between myself and brads oh so powerful 900 pound cruiser with no traction
control.i predict that while his rear tire is spinning my c14 will just easily leave
him in the dust.
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Geez Bob...in the immortal words of Billy Crystal...."It's not how you feel, it's how you look". How can you possibly ride if you don't look cool doing it...??...😊!
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Geez Bob...in the immortal words of Billy Crystal...."It's not how you feel, it's how you look". How can you possibly ride if you don't look cool doing it...??...😊!
Fernando said "remember my friends, it is better to look good than to feel good."
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I agree.

I figure I have eight years of riding left after I get a BMW.

It looks like BMW sells bikes like cars and have different ways for owning a bike.
One that I am very interested in is the Lease like buying. I could trade in the bike after 4 years and get a brand new one keep it for another 4 years then sell it. Two bikes for the price of one... kind of. Not to mention that would also make it eight years of warranty coverage.

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Oh, I'm sure BMW would love to have you paying them forever.
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Fernando said "remember my friends, it is better to look good than to feel good."
I think we Harley riders win that one hands down...
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