RacnRay Throttle mod

[RACNRAY]

Originally Posted by Mav1

Just installed Ray's throttle mod (Avon Grips) and am adding my "shout out" for this mod. My Vaq gave me fits in parking lots with its incessantly jerking on-off throttle. There was just no way to ride smoothly at slow speed without feathering the clutch constantly. Thanks Ray for a mod that has really made a positive difference! Oh yea, and the installation instructions were excellent.

THANX...ENJOY!!

Originally Posted by koga

Can you pm me on how to order. Thanks, Larry G

PM SENT

Originally Posted by 0vationdave

This is always a topic at work. "Throttle by wire" vs. "Drive by Wire". One is for throttle (engine RPM), and one is for steering (no physical link between steering wheel and rack & pinion). Most people confuse "Drive by Wire" as meaning "Throttle by Wire". But there is a difference. There are no vehicles currently using "Drive by Wire" however it has been approved for use. It would greatly simplify L/R hand drive vehicles for using a common architecture because of the lack of a physical link between the steering wheel and rack allows easy movement of the steering wheel from Left to Right.

And there ya go!! Not knowin much about the 4 wheel stuff goin on I did not know about "drive by wire", thanx for the info.

RACNRAY

[RiderCoach Lar]

Just another plug for RACNRAY's throttle mod. I called Ray late last week to order a set of his Avon grips with the mod for my '11 Voyager. Ray was great on the phone. He patiently answered all my questions and even told me to call him on his cell if I had questions during the install even though he would be on vacation (Who does that!?). Any way, the grips showed up a few days later, I followed Ray's SPOT-ON installation instructions (didn't have to bother him on his vacation) and, WOW, they perform exactly how everyone has claimed! MUCH more precise throttle inputs and control with almost non-existent lag and far easier slow speed maneuvering of the bike. If you're "on the fence" about this mod, get the hell off and order it from Ray, ASAP. I can't think of a more practical and worthwhile modification you can do to improve throttle response on these bikes. THANKS, RAY!

[RACNRAY]

THANK YOU for the kind words and glad you like the improvements. ENJOY!!

RACNRAY

[Bri178]

I bought modified Avon grips from RacnRay and installed them on my '09 Nomad yesterday. It only took about 15 minutes and was really easy. Ray's instructions were bang on!

Took the bike out today for a run and I was amazed at the difference. Much better throttle response. No throttle lag at all. I also found I could ride at just above idle in parking lots much easier.

Totally happy with this mod. Thank you very much, Ray

[sandollar1700]

Hi!! very interested in buying your throttle mod for my 2012 vaquero please send info to get in touch with you... Thanks Sandi

[Balquin]

Wanted to add that I got my Avon grips with mod installed and I am loving the grips and the positive response now! Thanks Racnray!

[RACNRAY]

Originally Posted by sandollar1700

Hi!! very interested in buying your throttle mod for my 2012 vaquero please send info to get in touch with you... Thanks Sandi

info sent...THANX

Originally Posted by Balquin

Wanted to add that I got my Avon grips with mod installed and I am loving the grips and the positive response now! Thanks Racnray!

GLAD TO HEAR...ENJOY!!

RACNRAY

[Fried Chicken Blowout]

Ray,

Just wanted to say thanks for the grips. Ordered them last Wednesday I think after talking with you in the morning and had them in my hands in Colorado on Friday.

Install was smooth but I had to destroy the end cap on the left factory one, it was glued onto the threads for the bar. Adjustment instructions were easy to follow and it made a very noticeable difference transitioning from idle to power in corners. It seemed a little wonky before and I couldn't get use to where it would actually roll on the throttle. No issues now.

Your modifications to the ISO grip was super clean in it's fit and finish.

[RACNRAY]

Originally Posted by Fried Chicken Blowout

Ray,

Just wanted to say thanks for the grips. Ordered them last Wednesday I think after talking with you in the morning and had them in my hands in Colorado on Friday.

Install was smooth but I had to destroy the end cap on the left factory one, it was glued onto the threads for the bar. Adjustment instructions were easy to follow and it made a very noticeable difference transitioning from idle to power in corners. It seemed a little wonky before and I couldn't get use to where it would actually roll on the throttle. No issues now.

Your modifications to the ISO grip was super clean in it's fit and finish.

VERY GLAD to hear. It's good to have better control when ridin our skoots. It is not uncommon to mess up that chrome left cap, they are tight and glued on as you said.

THANX
RACNRAY

[Fried Chicken Blowout]

By the way Ray, if you have any use for my almost new right hand grip to use in a rotation of shipping out to customers in exchange for theirs, I can ship it into you. I've got nothing else to do with it so I thought you might put it to use.

[Puckman77]

Quick question about this mod...all the responses from the happy customers are great and make me want to get this. But I haven't seen anyone ask, or RACNRAY offer up (I may have missed it elsewhere), why did Kawasaki intentionally design the throttle operation the way they did? Being an engineer myself, there must have been a reason they designed the throttle this way. By modification, is there an important function of the original design that is now by-passed and being overlooked such that there may be unintended consequences?

[tonik]

Originally Posted by Puckman77

Quick question about this mod...all the responses from the happy customers are great and make me want to get this. But I haven't seen anyone ask, or RACNRAY offer up (I may have missed it elsewhere), why did Kawasaki intentionally design the throttle operation the way they did? Being an engineer myself, there must have been a reason they designed the throttle this way. By modification, is there an important function of the original design that is now by-passed and being overlooked such that there may be unintended consequences?

Either the engineers messed up, or they have a different view of how a throttle should respond than many of us do. As for unintended consequences, this is just a mechanical mod to make the grip pull the wire differently than the factory does. We could accomplish the same thing if our wrists were fast enough and able to make the adjustments...so no way we have done any harm here.

I can't prove there are none, but far too many of us have tons of miles with the mod installed with zero issues for me to think there are any unknown consequences.

[RACNRAY]

Originally Posted by Puckman77

Quick question about this mod...all the responses from the happy customers are great and make me want to get this. But I haven't seen anyone ask, or RACNRAY offer up (I may have missed it elsewhere), why did Kawasaki intentionally design the throttle operation the way they did? Being an engineer myself, there must have been a reason they designed the throttle this way. By modification, is there an important function of the original design that is now by-passed and being overlooked such that there may be unintended consequences?

When I bought my Vaq in April 2011 I already had experience with RBW systems on sportbikes. For the most part they operated as good or better than non RBW systems.

During that first 1000 miles I was learnin a lot bout this 1700, and noticed an unacceptable amount of lag in relation to my throttle inputs. Also in 2011 I was celebrating my 35th year as a m/c technician and into my 21 first year of owning my own performance shop. So I was starting to question the who/what/whys of this lag. All I knew is I thought it was unacceptable and planned on researching further in my first dyno session with the skoot.

I learned in that session what I already knew, came up with my mod, documented the improvements on my dyno and backed those up with the "real world" seat of the pants impression on my first ride.

I included these findings in a thread and what happened was 1700 owners who had their skoots b4 I bought mine ended up asking about the mod, continuously. So a local 1700 owner came to my shop, we did the mod, and he posted his results, which were positive.

That's the history. Anyways, here we are 4 + years later and I still don't know why Kawi programmed such a delay. For me, an it seems anyone who has done this mod, we all feel this is what Kawi should have done.

Engineers or committees of engineers decide things for reasons too numerous to list, so whatever reason(s) they had I guess I just don't agree with. Engineers are human and can make mistakes or make bad judgment calls. And the hundreds of those with my mod will prolly agree.

RACNRAY

There are no consequences, just benefits

[BentNahl]

Hi RacnRay,

I just upgraded from a Vulcan 900 to the Voyager 1700 and would like to purchase a set of Kuryakyn grips with your mod

Roy

Originally Posted by RACNRAY

When I bought my Vaq in April 2011 I already had experience with RBW systems on sportbikes. For the most part they operated as good or better than non RBW systems.

During that first 1000 miles I was learnin a lot bout this 1700, and noticed an unacceptable amount of lag in relation to my throttle inputs. Also in 2011 I was celebrating my 35th year as a m/c technician and into my 21 first year of owning my own performance shop. So I was starting to question the who/what/whys of this lag. All I knew is I thought it was unacceptable and planned on researching further in my first dyno session with the skoot.

I learned in that session what I already knew, came up with my mod, documented the improvements on my dyno and backed those up with the "real world" seat of the pants impression on my first ride.

I included these findings in a thread and what happened was 1700 owners who had their skoots b4 I bought mine ended up asking about the mod, continuously. So a local 1700 owner came to my shop, we did the mod, and he posted his results, which were positive.

That's the history. Anyways, here we are 4 + years later and I still don't know why Kawi programmed such a delay. For me, an it seems anyone who has done this mod, we all feel this is what Kawi should have done.

Engineers or committees of engineers decide things for reasons too numerous to list, so whatever reason(s) they had I guess I just don't agree with. Engineers are human and can make mistakes or make bad judgment calls. And the hundreds of those with my mod will prolly agree.

RACNRAY

There are no consequences, just benefits

[Puckman77]

Thanks! Now I just need to decide if I want to modify my stock grip or get your modified Kuyakyns!