safety of Baggers - Page 3

**glwilson** · 11-10-2013, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by badge1

ya should get some good responses there I wanted to share this after I read it this is out there man if he has such a thing for HD why does he ride an sportster boy's ?

I find it odd also... Other writings from him, he states the Sportster is the best bike built. He mostly rants about how its motor is superior to the motors HD uses on its tourers.

Much of any glory he might have had in his rants on HD tourers was spoiled when HD made changes to those things he bitched about.

Maybe he was right about his complaints, because HD made the changes he thought they should.

**badge1** · 11-10-2013, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by glwilson

I find it odd also... Other writings from him, he states the Sportster is the best bike built. He mostly rants about how its motor is superior to the motors HD uses on its tourers.

Much of any glory he might have had in his rants on HD tourers was spoiled when HD made changes to those things he bitched about.

Maybe he was right about his complaints, because HD made the changes he thought they should.

Ya wilson there sure are alot of HD haters out there strange as they are the pioneers of the industry umm and we all model our nomads after them ?

smokey · 11-10-2013, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by badge1

Ya wilson there sure are alot of HD haters out there strange as they are the pioneers of the industry umm and we all model our nomads after them ?

if we did that we would be running air cooled motors. No thanks. I don't hate HD, I just don't like the price, or the ergonomics, at 6' 1" I just didn't find enough leg room, and yes, I did own one. For a month.

**jestephens** · 11-11-2013, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by badge1

Ya wilson there sure are alot of HD haters out there strange as they are the pioneers of the industry umm and we all model our nomads after them ?

I make great effort to look nothing like an HD.... just sayin'

And I wouldn't call them pioneers of industry when they try so hard to avoid changing things.

They seem to be idolized for being traditional

Yellow Jacket · 11-10-2013, 03:42 PM

Thanks to reading the replies first, I knew not to waste my time looking at the link.

**glwilson** · 11-10-2013, 04:33 PM

James Russell of James Russell Publishing (the author) has had a long-standing beef with Harley Davidson -- excluding the Sportster; of which he thinks is the best bike built.

No one seems to know his history, but he has written incessantly about how Harley's are the worst bike ever. He has gone to great length to plead his case.

He appears to have some mechanical/engineering knowledge (expertise?); but uses it wholeheartedly to bad-mouth HD.

This rant appears to include any "bagger"; although he still centers on HD's.

He does have a couple points with regard to the larger front rims with low-profile tires. I have seen article after article about the problems/dangers/tire-wear when using these rims.

I avoid his bullshit most of the time...

jesse d · 11-10-2013, 05:25 PM

I read it ............and the Oklahoma boy also says.............

badboy194 · 11-10-2013, 06:41 PM

This guy sounds like Mr. Mackey on South Park. Baggers are Bad... M'kay! Don't ride a Bagger!

**cnc** · 11-10-2013, 07:33 PM

Well you know some one is full of it when they need to sensationalize and embellish everything to make a point. Wonder what he feels about the choices of toilet paper on the market?

Bud2rat · 11-10-2013, 08:15 PM

Total Bullsh*t IMHO, just saying.

cactusjack · 11-10-2013, 08:17 PM

I googled the author and he seems to have an opinion about everything. I would consider him a nut case and not to be taken seriously.

0vationdave · 11-10-2013, 09:02 PM

LOL. Ok, after I read his "Free Advice", he sure thinks a lot of himself....... http://www.jamesrussellpublishing.bi...cegeneral.html

**cnc** · 11-10-2013, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 0vationdave

LOL. Ok, after I read his "Free Advice", he sure thinks a lot of himself....... http://www.jamesrussellpublishing.bi...cegeneral.html

That must be the " Duh, no sh*t Sherlock " list.

ponch · 11-10-2013, 09:24 PM

Regarding #8: Obviously he's never owned a BMW.

**jestephens** · 11-11-2013, 03:23 PM

I agree with all of you.

The reasoning is subjective, not based on any fact. Just a rant from some jealous weenie

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11-10-2013, 04:33 PM	#6
glwilson Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: North Central Illinois Posts: 8,575	James Russell of James Russell Publishing (the author) has had a long-standing beef with Harley Davidson -- excluding the Sportster; of which he thinks is the best bike built. No one seems to know his history, but he has written incessantly about how Harley's are the worst bike ever. He has gone to great length to plead his case. He appears to have some mechanical/engineering knowledge (expertise?); but uses it wholeheartedly to bad-mouth HD. This rant appears to include any "bagger"; although he still centers on HD's. He does have a couple points with regard to the larger front rims with low-profile tires. I have seen article after article about the problems/dangers/tire-wear when using these rims. I avoid his bullshit most of the time... __________________ "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." "You can have your own opinion, but not your own facts." *Former VBA NCR Assist Regional Leader* Formerly: 2004 1500FI Bronze Nomad: 2009 & 2014 HD Ultra Current Rides: 2017 HD Ultra Limited & 2011 Can Am Spyder RTS-SE Attended: VBA National Rallies 2009, 2011, 2015; VBA/NCR Regional Rally 2010, 12, 14, 16 and several rides throughout with regional members. VBA Member #652 HOG Member #3935417
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11-10-2013, 07:33 PM	#9
cnc Join Date: May 2009 Location: Montreal QC Posts: 12,034	Well you know some one is full of it when they need to sensationalize and embellish everything to make a point. Wonder what he feels about the choices of toilet paper on the market? __________________ Norm Ward 2008 blue / silver nomad kawanow / VBA #01136
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11-10-2013, 08:15 PM	#10
Bud2rat Sr. Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: St. Pauls, NC Posts: 2,089	Total Bullsh*t IMHO, just saying. __________________ Robert Torrey VBA# 02077 Vroc# 27672 1996 800A Customized (SOLD) 2001 1500 Nomad (The Mistress) 2013 Voyager 2014 SE Rally - Elkins, WV 2016 SE Rally - Helen, Ga
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11-10-2013, 08:17 PM	#11
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11-10-2013, 05:25 PM	#7
jesse d Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: tulsa ok Posts: 180	I read it ............and the Oklahoma boy also says.............
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11-10-2013, 06:41 PM	#8
badboy194 Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Houston Posts: 82	This guy sounds like Mr. Mackey on South Park. Baggers are Bad... M'kay! Don't ride a Bagger!
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11-10-2013, 09:02 PM	#12
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11-11-2013, 03:23 PM	#15
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