Would you hold it against me? - Page 4

ponch · 10-30-2011, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by markclark57

I'd take the Road King too. Might be able to trade it for a new 1700 6 speed Nomad with a set of '08 side bags. . .

It's called a vaquero

**markclark57** · 10-30-2011, 11:54 PM

Naw, don't like the Vaquero faring or the way they angle the bags back. Not much for the sterio either. I figure IF I was going to upgrade it would be better to rebag the Nomad than to strip down the Vaquero and build it back to a Nomad. Sat a Vaquero at the dealer, I think it sits higher than my '06. Gotta have my side open bags though. Guess I'll just keep the '06. I already own that one.

Monkeyman · 10-31-2011, 02:36 AM

I'm pretty sure the Vaquero bags are identical to the 1500/1600 Nomad bags other than the smooth door (which I'm digging!). I think they attached the mounting bracket (hook thingy) a bit higher up but there's still the original indentation in the Nomad place.

The fairing has a bit too many angles for my taste but I'd still ride a Vaquero (if I could afford one).

It's the same frame as the other 1700s (Nomad, Classic, Voyager) so they all probably sit a bit higher than the 1600. They shortened the wheelbase by an inch or so, so they're probably trying to make up the leg room somewhere. The Vaquero is factory lowered so if that's too tall for you, I wouldn't bother with a new Nomad.

ponch · 10-31-2011, 07:10 AM

It depends on what makes the most sense. A Voyager comes with ABS, the Nomad and Vaquero do not come with ABS in this country. The Vaquero can be had with a QD backrest, the others have a fixed backrest or trunk. May be the best compromise is a Nomad with the Voyager/Vaquero handlebars if ABS wasn't a deal breaker. I don't care if the bags are side or top opening, a helmet doesn't fit in either.

Loafer · 10-31-2011, 07:45 AM

I love the Vaquero, fits me just fine.(5'9") My son Bill and I test rode them at Americade this past June. I have been on lots of test rides and since I bought my Nomad in '01, I hadn't found a replacement until I tried the Vaquero. If I am lucky in the future I will own one.

Monkeyman · 10-31-2011, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ponch

I don't care if the bags are side or top opening, a helmet doesn't fit in either.

A 3/4 helmet fits perfectly in the 1500/1600 bags.

ponch · 10-31-2011, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Monkeyman

A 3/4 helmet fits perfectly in the 1500/1600 bags.

Ponch doesn't use a 3/4 helmet. Modular or full face. Neither fit in my Nomad.

waterman · 10-31-2011, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ponch

Ponch doesn't use a 3/4 helmet. Modular or full face. Neither fit in my Nomad.

I don't know of any side bag that will hold a full face helmet. Maybe a goldwing. I guess that is why you put a trunk on if you can keep it cleaned out.

ponch · 10-31-2011, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by waterman

I don't know of any side bag that will hold a full face helmet. Maybe a goldwing. I guess that is why you put a trunk on if you can keep it cleaned out.

I can in my BMW, one in each or two in the trunk.

**markclark57** · 10-31-2011, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkeyman

I'm pretty sure the Vaquero bags are identical to the 1500/1600 Nomad bags other than the smooth door (which I'm digging!).

It's not the style of the bags that I object to. The mounting angle is just a bit odd. They are mounted at an angle that makes the rear part of the bags closer together. The smooth doors are nice. When I get my scratches taken out I might fill in the gooves on mine.

ponch · 10-31-2011, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by markclark57

It's not the style of the bags that I object to. The mounting angle is just a bit odd. They are mounted at an angle that makes the rear part of the bags closer together. The smooth doors are nice. When I get my scratches taken out I might fill in the gooves on mine.

It's no the angle. Back in the redwoods, some of us compared them and thought that they are shaped different/had different dimentions. They were changed to follow the lines of the bike. I don't know...YMMV I guess. I don't like the way the bags look on the new Nomad and Voyager, but there are pros and cons with each bike.

**markclark57** · 10-31-2011, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ponch

It's no the angle. Back in the redwoods, some of us compared them and thought that they are shaped different/had different dimentions. They were changed to follow the lines of the bike. I don't know...YMMV I guess. I don't like the way the bags look on the new Nomad and Voyager, but there are pros and cons with each bike.

Thus my decission to stick with my '06. Regardless of make, model or $$$. It's still the best bike (for me).

10-30-2011, 11:54 PM	#47
markclark57 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 3,108	Naw, don't like the Vaquero faring or the way they angle the bags back. Not much for the sterio either. I figure IF I was going to upgrade it would be better to rebag the Nomad than to strip down the Vaquero and build it back to a Nomad. Sat a Vaquero at the dealer, I think it sits higher than my '06. Gotta have my side open bags though. Guess I'll just keep the '06. I already own that one. __________________ 2006 Vulcan 1600 Classic "George III" (Patricia's) 2006 Vulcan 1600 Nomad "Grace" (Mark's) Mark Clark VBA #1619 TaibhseDaid@Gmail.Com "Irish" @ Maricopa County Chapter of B.A.C.A. Phoenix, AZ Last edited by markclark57; 10-30-2011 at 11:57 PM.
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10-31-2011, 02:36 AM	#48
Monkeyman Top Contributor Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: North Wilkesboro, NC Posts: 6,289	I'm pretty sure the Vaquero bags are identical to the 1500/1600 Nomad bags other than the smooth door (which I'm digging!). I think they attached the mounting bracket (hook thingy) a bit higher up but there's still the original indentation in the Nomad place. The fairing has a bit too many angles for my taste but I'd still ride a Vaquero (if I could afford one). It's the same frame as the other 1700s (Nomad, Classic, Voyager) so they all probably sit a bit higher than the 1600. They shortened the wheelbase by an inch or so, so they're probably trying to make up the leg room somewhere. The Vaquero is factory lowered so if that's too tall for you, I wouldn't bother with a new Nomad. __________________ Christopher "Monkeyman" Gray ---------------------------- Widows Sons "Overseers" Patriot Guard Rider USArmy 1987-1990 2021 Can Am Spyder RT 2018 Can Am Spyder RT Limited - SOLD 2014 Nomad - SOLD 2012 Victory Vision - SOLD 2007 Black Nomad - SOLD VMC #9367 VBA #1860 Last edited by Monkeyman; 10-31-2011 at 02:42 AM.
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10-31-2011, 07:10 AM	#49
ponch Sr. Contributor Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Way East Valley Posts: 12,016	It depends on what makes the most sense. A Voyager comes with ABS, the Nomad and Vaquero do not come with ABS in this country. The Vaquero can be had with a QD backrest, the others have a fixed backrest or trunk. May be the best compromise is a Nomad with the Voyager/Vaquero handlebars if ABS wasn't a deal breaker. I don't care if the bags are side or top opening, a helmet doesn't fit in either. __________________ Ponch VBA 0019 VROC 8109-R BMWMOA 162849 BMWRA 41335 BMW: When you care enough to ride the very best. My Motorrad Blog My Motorrad YouTube 2009 BMW R1200RT Previous bikes:2007 Nomad \| 2001 Vulcan 800 Classic \| 1984 GPz750 \| 1978 KZ1000A2 Rallies: Custer '09\|Prairie Du Chien '10\|Crescent City '11
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10-31-2011, 07:45 AM	#50
Loafer Sr. Contributor Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 18,287	I love the Vaquero, fits me just fine.(5'9") My son Bill and I test rode them at Americade this past June. I have been on lots of test rides and since I bought my Nomad in '01, I hadn't found a replacement until I tried the Vaquero. If I am lucky in the future I will own one. __________________ Gerry Martineau / 802 VT / VBA #0892 /[email]glmjgm@gmail.com[email] Login or Register to Remove Ads
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