new info on p. o. g.

greywolf · 10-28-2011, 01:21 PM

i just called a dealer to have them run my vin # to see if the po had the gear changed thru warranty he ran my vin and said that my bike had no recalls on the gear, he said the failure was on a bad batch of gears and to not worry because only the bad batch needed replaced, my bike says that it was a 1998 and title says1999 any truth to this? please rest my worry mind. lol thanks. greywolf!!

**coacha** · 10-28-2011, 02:06 PM

The POG will fail at some point I have been told. It would be a good idea to get a JOG and do the switch. Cost of a JOG is about 15% of the cost to have the engine rebuilt if the POG goes out on you. I have the web site for ordering the JOG on my home computer. I'll post it later today or tomorrow for you.

blowndodge · 10-28-2011, 02:08 PM

I thought P.O.G. was Joel's nickname?? Piece of Garbage??

cactusjack · 10-28-2011, 03:30 PM

Personally, I trust very little of anything a dealer says. If it has a plastic oil gear, it should be replaced.

waterman · 10-28-2011, 04:20 PM

Personally I would go with CJ on this. Had a POG go out on a 99 and it is not fun dealing with a dealer on this.

waterman · 10-28-2011, 04:21 PM

Bradley, you had better start coming up with some new material.

blowndodge · 10-28-2011, 04:44 PM

You've really been all over my posts Joel... Why not share some of that love with Scott????

waterman · 10-28-2011, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by blowndodge

You've really been all over my posts Joel... Why not share some of that love with Scott????

As I recall, you started it!!!!!!

Man, we sound like third graders.

blowndodge · 10-28-2011, 06:22 PM

Need I remind you I made it past the 4th grade!!!!!

waterman · 10-28-2011, 06:46 PM

That may be, but you are 9 years older than I so I still have the chance to catch you and possibly pass you by your old age.

**ringadingh** · 10-28-2011, 06:49 PM

I agree, if its a plastic gear I'd be concerned. It will fail at some point.

**wompus** · 10-28-2011, 08:54 PM

Bob "The Judge" Oglesby invented the replacement gear for the POG. He's a friend and lives not too far from me.
He brought one to my shop and showed me how to replace them. So far I've done a few dozen or so for those who had bad ones.
If you bring me your bike I do the labor and replace them for free. I haven't replaced one yet that was in good shape.

Now... we found that one major problem with the POG was the clutch basket. The oil gear wobbles and if your clutch baskets spring retainers aren't flattened out it is one of the reasons for failure.

Bring me your bike and I'll replace it for you... but you need to get the gear and a new gasket first.... <G>

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audiogooroo · 10-28-2011, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by wompus

Bob "The Judge" Oglesby invented the replacement gear for the POG. He's a friend and lives not too far from me.
He brought one to my shop and showed me how to replace them. So far I've done a few dozen or so for those who had bad ones.
If you bring me your bike I do the labor and replace them for free. I haven't replaced one yet that was in good shape.

Now... we found that one major problem with the POG was the clutch basket. The oil gear wobbles and if your clutch baskets spring retainers aren't flattened out it is one of the reasons for failure.

Bring me your bike and I'll replace it for you... but you need to get the gear and a new gasket first.... <G>

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Generous offer man. Pretty cool!

**cnc** · 10-28-2011, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by greywolf

i just called a dealer to have them run my vin # to see if the po had the gear changed thru warranty he ran my vin and said that my bike had no recalls on the gear, he said the failure was on a bad batch of gears and to not worry because only the bad batch needed replaced, my bike says that it was a 1998 and title says1999 any truth to this? please rest my worry mind. lol thanks. greywolf!!

If that were true, only a bad batch, why did they go to a steal gear ?

10-28-2011, 01:21 PM	#1
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coacha Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Haysville, KS Posts: 6,259	The POG will fail at some point I have been told. It would be a good idea to get a JOG and do the switch. Cost of a JOG is about 15% of the cost to have the engine rebuilt if the POG goes out on you. I have the web site for ordering the JOG on my home computer. I'll post it later today or tomorrow for you. __________________ Ron "Coach" Allan, Haysville, KS 1999 Nomad Wine and Red "KawaTanker" 2009 BMW R1200RT 2003 BMW K1200LT "Magic Carpet" DOA 11/7/2015 VBA #00291 IBA # 41995 DS #320 '08 Elkins, WV; '09 Helen, GA; '09 Custer, SD; '10 Stanton, VA; '11 Maggie Valley; '12 Townsend, TN; '13 Estes Park; '13 Blairsville, GA; '15 Eureka Springs; '16 Helen; '18 Custer, SD
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blowndodge Sr. Contributor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Washington City, Utah Posts: 16,474	You've really been all over my posts Joel... Why not share some of that love with Scott???? __________________ I love my Victory Cross Country Tour 106. Smells like Victory! Ultra's are Limited There are two types of Harley riders. Those that trailer them and those that push them. The most Interesting Man in the World "Find the things in life you don't do well and don't do those things" Member # 0005
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blowndodge Sr. Contributor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Washington City, Utah Posts: 16,474	Need I remind you I made it past the 4th grade!!!!! __________________ I love my Victory Cross Country Tour 106. Smells like Victory! Ultra's are Limited There are two types of Harley riders. Those that trailer them and those that push them. The most Interesting Man in the World "Find the things in life you don't do well and don't do those things" Member # 0005
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waterman Top Contributor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 6,530	That may be, but you are 9 years older than I so I still have the chance to catch you and possibly pass you by your old age. __________________ Joel "Waterman" 2017 HD Road Glide Ultra 2006 Nomad - Sold VBA 213 VROC 16913 Custer 09: Cortez 10: Crescent City 11: Kanab 12: Estes Park 13: Tahoe 14: Red Lodge 16
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ringadingh Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newmarket Ontario Canada Posts: 35,387	I agree, if its a plastic gear I'd be concerned. It will fail at some point.
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10-28-2011, 08:54 PM	#12
wompus Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Gainesville, Ga. Posts: 1,950	Bob "The Judge" Oglesby invented the replacement gear for the POG. He's a friend and lives not too far from me. He brought one to my shop and showed me how to replace them. So far I've done a few dozen or so for those who had bad ones. If you bring me your bike I do the labor and replace them for free. I haven't replaced one yet that was in good shape. Now... we found that one major problem with the POG was the clutch basket. The oil gear wobbles and if your clutch baskets spring retainers aren't flattened out it is one of the reasons for failure. Bring me your bike and I'll replace it for you... but you need to get the gear and a new gasket first.... <G> . __________________ Mike "WOMPUS' Nieznany 1999 Nomad "Fronkensteen" Viet Nam Vet 68-69-70 KawaNOW #00577 I'm sarcastic and have a smart ass attitude. It's a natural defense against DRAMA, BULLSHIT & STUPIDITY!!
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