Second one this week

cactusjack · 12-01-2010, 04:04 PM

Motorcyclist killed in collision with SUV in Surprise

by Alexander Foote - Dec. 1, 2010 09:48 AM
The Arizona Republic

A motorcyclist died Tuesday around 6:30 p.m. after an accident at Bell Road and R.H. Johnson Boulevard, according to Surprise police.

The 37-year-old man on a 2007 Kawasaki motorcycle was headed east on Bell Road when he struck a 2002 Dodge SUV, which was driving west on Bell and turning left at the intersection, police spokesman Mark Ortega said.

The man, who police have not identified, pending notification to family, died at a nearby hospital. The woman driving the SUV was uninjured.

The cause of the accident is still under investigation.

Bell Road was closed for about three hours after the accident.

**BudMan** · 12-01-2010, 05:34 PM

Under investigation? She turned left in front of him!

flavor · 12-01-2010, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BudMan

Under investigation? She turned left in front of him!

One of the most dangerous assho@@ moves that will take out a biker for sure. Auto not so much.

**ringadingh** · 12-01-2010, 07:06 PM

You have to be carefull out there.

**glwilson** · 12-01-2010, 07:28 PM

Left turns in front of a motorcycle is the leading cause of fatalities of riders.

Both of CJ's posts were caused by a vehicle turning left into a bike.

Everyone must ALWAYS think of this when riding and have the mindset that every driver woke-up that day to specifically hit them on their bike...

I see complacency of riders all the time... and it is scary -- not that a skilled and well-prepared rider couldn't still be in an accident or get killed.

AlabamaNomadRider · 12-01-2010, 10:15 PM

Sure hate to hear this. It is always the same thing, either someone turning left in front of a motorcycle or someone pulling out in front of a motorcycle. And I use the term someone loosely.

**Cajunrider** · 12-01-2010, 10:18 PM

One of my biggest fears when riding, besides going around someone who has their cell phone to their ear is when I'm approaching a stopped vehicle with the left turn signal blinking. I automatically flip my high beam on and hope they are paying attention. Still makes me nervous though. In the last few months, I've had a few idiots wait at a stop sign until I'm nearly on top of them before they pull out in front of me. No one in sight behind me. Most of these are talking on their cell phone.

dabull · 12-01-2010, 10:21 PM

i try to watch the wheels of cars at all intersections...you only have a second.....

**glwilson** · 12-01-2010, 10:26 PM

Rider courses suggest you should watch the wheels of the car for movement.

If the wheels are turning... the car is moving... whether they are looking at you or not...

Many believe you should look at the driver's eyes... but there are many stories of drivers looking right at what they run-into.

**Cajunrider** · 12-01-2010, 10:31 PM

I try to watch the wheels also but it's pretty hard to tell from 100 yds away at 50 mph if the wheels are rolling when they aren't turned. At an intersection, I try to establish eye contact with the driver. Scares the heck out of me when they only glance my way and stare to their right or vice versa when they are on the left side of the intersection.

flavor · 12-01-2010, 11:56 PM

Right signal left hand turn is the worst me or any friends have experienced with fellow riders.

Speaking of dangerous situations the re-occurring dream I have, luckily haven't had it in yrs, is the situation where..........you're riding in the mountains...........no shoulder on the right side............road goes into a blind right curve...........sand and gravel washed on to the road............. and as you come around the turn your buddy has wiped out in front of you............you have no where to go except to avoid him and go into oncoming traffic........you avoid the oncoming car but lay the bike down........sliding across the lane,,,,,,hitting the wall after you slide through the opposite shoulder......flipping over the wall after your bike hits it and catapults you over...........the drop is over 1000 ft and you grab a tree branch and are hanging on for dear life.

Dream ends...............

Be careful out there............Always anticipate............

Dave · 12-02-2010, 10:48 AM

Living here in Garden Grove with all the Asians, I get to practice my defensive riding daily!!

blowndodge · 12-02-2010, 11:29 AM

Shoot Scott, just fill our stocking full of Grim Reaper bad news this holiday season...

Loafer · 12-02-2010, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by flavor

Right signal left hand turn is the worst me or any friends have experienced with fellow riders.

Speaking of dangerous situations the re-occurring dream I have, luckily haven't had it in yrs, is the situation where..........you're riding in the mountains...........no shoulder on the right side............road goes into a blind right curve...........sand and gravel washed on to the road............. and as you come around the turn your buddy has wiped out in front of you............you have no where to go except to avoid him and go into oncoming traffic........you avoid the oncoming car but lay the bike down........sliding across the lane,,,,,,hitting the wall after you slide through the opposite shoulder......flipping over the wall after your bike hits it and catapults you over...........the drop is over 1000 ft and you grab a tree branch and are hanging on for dear life.

Dream ends...............

Be careful out there............Always anticipate............

Please keep my nightmares to yourself... ;)

cactusjack · 12-02-2010, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Blowndodge "Darksider"

Shoot Scott, just fill our stocking full of Grim Reaper bad news this holiday season...

Life's not all crisply starched shirts and jingly jeans for everyone, BD. Not everybody is as lucky as you are.

12-01-2010, 04:04 PM	#1
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12-01-2010, 07:28 PM	#5
glwilson Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: North Central Illinois Posts: 8,575	Second one this week Left turns in front of a motorcycle is the leading cause of fatalities of riders. Both of CJ's posts were caused by a vehicle turning left into a bike. Everyone must ALWAYS think of this when riding and have the mindset that every driver woke-up that day to specifically hit them on their bike... I see complacency of riders all the time... and it is scary -- not that a skilled and well-prepared rider couldn't still be in an accident or get killed. __________________ "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." "You can have your own opinion, but not your own facts." *Former VBA NCR Assist Regional Leader* Formerly: 2004 1500FI Bronze Nomad: 2009 & 2014 HD Ultra Current Rides: 2017 HD Ultra Limited & 2011 Can Am Spyder RTS-SE Attended: VBA National Rallies 2009, 2011, 2015; VBA/NCR Regional Rally 2010, 12, 14, 16 and several rides throughout with regional members. VBA Member #652 HOG Member #3935417 Login or Register to Remove Ads
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12-01-2010, 10:15 PM	#6
AlabamaNomadRider Sr. Contributor Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Boaz, Alabama Posts: 13,742	Second one this week Sure hate to hear this. It is always the same thing, either someone turning left in front of a motorcycle or someone pulling out in front of a motorcycle. And I use the term someone loosely. __________________ Gene Cross, Jr. Boaz, Alabama KawaNOW/VBA #1181
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Cajunrider Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: (SE Louisiana) Posts: 8,340	Second one this week One of my biggest fears when riding, besides going around someone who has their cell phone to their ear is when I'm approaching a stopped vehicle with the left turn signal blinking. I automatically flip my high beam on and hope they are paying attention. Still makes me nervous though. In the last few months, I've had a few idiots wait at a stop sign until I'm nearly on top of them before they pull out in front of me. No one in sight behind me. Most of these are talking on their cell phone. __________________ 2016 Electra Glide Ultra Limited CVO Palladium Silver / Phantom Blue 110 cu in SE 2012 Electra Glide Ultra Limited (Traded 6/22/16) Tequila Sunrise / HD Orange Vance & Hines true dual headers Rinehart 4" slip ons Screamin Eagle Super Tuner Screamin Eagle Stage 1 intake Dyno tuned H.O.G.# 4514015 2007 Nomad 1600 (Traded 6/23/12) VBA #482
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dabull Sr. Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Crestview, FL Posts: 2,409	Second one this week i try to watch the wheels of cars at all intersections...you only have a second.....
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12-01-2010, 10:26 PM	#9
glwilson Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: North Central Illinois Posts: 8,575	Second one this week Rider courses suggest you should watch the wheels of the car for movement. If the wheels are turning... the car is moving... whether they are looking at you or not... Many believe you should look at the driver's eyes... but there are many stories of drivers looking right at what they run-into. __________________ "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." "You can have your own opinion, but not your own facts." *Former VBA NCR Assist Regional Leader* Formerly: 2004 1500FI Bronze Nomad: 2009 & 2014 HD Ultra Current Rides: 2017 HD Ultra Limited & 2011 Can Am Spyder RTS-SE Attended: VBA National Rallies 2009, 2011, 2015; VBA/NCR Regional Rally 2010, 12, 14, 16 and several rides throughout with regional members. VBA Member #652 HOG Member #3935417
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Cajunrider Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: (SE Louisiana) Posts: 8,340	Second one this week I try to watch the wheels also but it's pretty hard to tell from 100 yds away at 50 mph if the wheels are rolling when they aren't turned. At an intersection, I try to establish eye contact with the driver. Scares the heck out of me when they only glance my way and stare to their right or vice versa when they are on the left side of the intersection. __________________ 2016 Electra Glide Ultra Limited CVO Palladium Silver / Phantom Blue 110 cu in SE 2012 Electra Glide Ultra Limited (Traded 6/22/16) Tequila Sunrise / HD Orange Vance & Hines true dual headers Rinehart 4" slip ons Screamin Eagle Super Tuner Screamin Eagle Stage 1 intake Dyno tuned H.O.G.# 4514015 2007 Nomad 1600 (Traded 6/23/12) VBA #482
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12-01-2010, 11:56 PM	#11
flavor Sr. Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: RI Posts: 1,352	Second one this week Right signal left hand turn is the worst me or any friends have experienced with fellow riders. Speaking of dangerous situations the re-occurring dream I have, luckily haven't had it in yrs, is the situation where..........you're riding in the mountains...........no shoulder on the right side............road goes into a blind right curve...........sand and gravel washed on to the road............. and as you come around the turn your buddy has wiped out in front of you............you have no where to go except to avoid him and go into oncoming traffic........you avoid the oncoming car but lay the bike down........sliding across the lane,,,,,,hitting the wall after you slide through the opposite shoulder......flipping over the wall after your bike hits it and catapults you over...........the drop is over 1000 ft and you grab a tree branch and are hanging on for dear life. Dream ends............... Be careful out there............Always anticipate............
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12-02-2010, 10:48 AM	#12
Dave Sr. Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Itchycoo Park Posts: 3,422	Second one this week Living here in Garden Grove with all the Asians, I get to practice my defensive riding daily!!
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