safety of Baggers - Page 2

**cnc** · 11-10-2013, 08:23 AM

I read about half of it and got bored, but I can't help but wonder how many more millionaires there would be in this world if the Bagger was never invented.

fish · 11-10-2013, 08:49 AM

I lost interest 1/2 to 2/3 through it. He started to repeat himself. he has to much time on his hands

**crazygene49** · 11-10-2013, 09:14 AM

I poked around his website and came to the conclusion that the guy is a wacko.

**vulcanscott** · 11-10-2013, 09:22 AM

**markclark57** · 11-10-2013, 11:39 AM

He was just voicing his wife's reasoning for him to never own a motorcycle. (or any non-necessity item that may result in FUN)

**cnc** · 11-10-2013, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by markclark57

He was just voicing his wife's reasoning for him to never own a motorcycle. (or any non-necessity item that may result in FUN)

OR, he has a one of a kind Bagger and his wife has served him with papers and wants to make sure her lawyer goes after other stuff.

gman47 · 11-10-2013, 12:30 PM

Read to #20, had to stop..such whining and crap. Ya know what they say about opinions and Ass#@*&s... every body has one!!!!!!!!!!

**HwyRider** · 11-10-2013, 01:39 PM

Under his advice column he says not to trust the BBB because they ruled against him 3 times but 2 paragraphs down he says to trust them. Most of his writing is the same. He praises something and then condemns it or vice versa.

smokey · 11-10-2013, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by badge1

smokey how is your voyager do you ever feel like it is unsafe ?

Never, the only time I ever went down was on a 50cc scooter.

Monkeyman · 11-10-2013, 03:18 PM

Of course it's legitimate. It's on the internet.

cactusjack · 11-10-2013, 03:36 PM

For my own amusement I think I will cross post this link on the Harley bagger forum.

Yellow Jacket · 11-10-2013, 03:42 PM

Thanks to reading the replies first, I knew not to waste my time looking at the link.

tazfl · 11-10-2013, 04:26 PM

wow, allot of ignorance and one sided opinion in that "article" if you can call it that. There were a couple of points in there that have "some" truth to them like removing one of the front brake rotors to show off the rim having a negative effect on braking. Overall though the author is full of it and there is a underlying factor for his negativity that I'm not sure of.

**glwilson** · 11-10-2013, 04:33 PM

James Russell of James Russell Publishing (the author) has had a long-standing beef with Harley Davidson -- excluding the Sportster; of which he thinks is the best bike built.

No one seems to know his history, but he has written incessantly about how Harley's are the worst bike ever. He has gone to great length to plead his case.

He appears to have some mechanical/engineering knowledge (expertise?); but uses it wholeheartedly to bad-mouth HD.

This rant appears to include any "bagger"; although he still centers on HD's.

He does have a couple points with regard to the larger front rims with low-profile tires. I have seen article after article about the problems/dangers/tire-wear when using these rims.

I avoid his bullshit most of the time...

**badge1** · 11-10-2013, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cactusjack

For my own amusement I think I will cross post this link on the Harley bagger forum.

ya should get some good responses there I wanted to share this after I read it this is out there man if he has such a thing for HD why does he ride an sportster boy's ?

11-10-2013, 08:23 AM	#16
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11-10-2013, 08:49 AM	#17
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11-10-2013, 09:14 AM	#18
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11-10-2013, 12:30 PM	#22
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11-10-2013, 01:39 PM	#23
HwyRider Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: South Shore, MA Posts: 4,629	Under his advice column he says not to trust the BBB because they ruled against him 3 times but 2 paragraphs down he says to trust them. Most of his writing is the same. He praises something and then condemns it or vice versa. __________________ VBA # 02424 VROC # 35971 2010 Nomad 1700 Metallic Diablo Black/Metallic Titanium
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11-10-2013, 09:22 AM	#19
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11-10-2013, 11:39 AM	#20
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11-10-2013, 03:18 PM	#25
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11-10-2013, 03:36 PM	#26
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11-10-2013, 03:42 PM	#27
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11-10-2013, 04:26 PM	#28
tazfl Advanced Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 742	wow, allot of ignorance and one sided opinion in that "article" if you can call it that. There were a couple of points in there that have "some" truth to them like removing one of the front brake rotors to show off the rim having a negative effect on braking. Overall though the author is full of it and there is a underlying factor for his negativity that I'm not sure of. __________________ 2012 Vaquero Special edition Candy Lime Green / Ebony Cobra slip on exhaust, Kuryakyn Alley Cat intake, Cobra FI2000 Fuel Processor, Quick release trunk, Front & rear crashbars powdercoated black, Paul Yaffee stealth 3 tag frame, Arlen Ness grips, Corbin seat, Custom pinstripping, Rear LED strip turn signals, Stock rear turnsignals / tagframe assembly removed
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11-10-2013, 04:33 PM	#29
glwilson Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: North Central Illinois Posts: 8,575	James Russell of James Russell Publishing (the author) has had a long-standing beef with Harley Davidson -- excluding the Sportster; of which he thinks is the best bike built. No one seems to know his history, but he has written incessantly about how Harley's are the worst bike ever. He has gone to great length to plead his case. He appears to have some mechanical/engineering knowledge (expertise?); but uses it wholeheartedly to bad-mouth HD. This rant appears to include any "bagger"; although he still centers on HD's. He does have a couple points with regard to the larger front rims with low-profile tires. I have seen article after article about the problems/dangers/tire-wear when using these rims. I avoid his bullshit most of the time... __________________ "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." "You can have your own opinion, but not your own facts." *Former VBA NCR Assist Regional Leader* Formerly: 2004 1500FI Bronze Nomad: 2009 & 2014 HD Ultra Current Rides: 2017 HD Ultra Limited & 2011 Can Am Spyder RTS-SE Attended: VBA National Rallies 2009, 2011, 2015; VBA/NCR Regional Rally 2010, 12, 14, 16 and several rides throughout with regional members. VBA Member #652 HOG Member #3935417
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