Darkside opinion

John E. B. · 08-11-2009, 02:38 PM

What C.T. is most commonly used? What tire pressure is best used? Can C.T. effect your shock settings?

cactusjack · 08-11-2009, 02:49 PM

One of the most popular tires for the Nomad is the Dunlop SP5000 195/60/16. It's close to the same diameter as the stock 170 rear tire. It's also what I have on my bike.

Air pressure is a subjective thing. Generally you start out around 40-42 lbs for the first 500 miles. This is considered the break-in period. Then you start dropping pressure in 2 pound increments until you get the feel and response you want. I am currently at 34 pounds and I think it's fairly close to ideal.

As far as the rear shock settings, I haven't tweaked mine at all.

If you haven't already done so, I urge you to visit this forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/DarkSiding/messages

You may have to sign up, but it's free. It has a wealth of information for people considering going to the darkside. There are also useful reference materials, like a database of different tires, what tires are right for your bike, and a list of installers.

macmac · 08-11-2009, 03:15 PM

I run the same tire Cj does, and like 36 psi. Cj lives in AZ where it is hot, while i live in New Hamshire where All Gore will be sending my summer re-bate chack soon.

dkdixie · 08-11-2009, 03:23 PM

Most common size for Nomads seems to be 195/60. Some are using 205/60 or 205/65.
Not many choices in 195, lots in 205's. 205's fit but driveshaft clearance is a concern to some.

As Scott mentioned, air pressure is totally subjective. You have to experiment to find your "sweet spot."

Mac and I are about the same size. He runs 36lb and I was content at 33lb but recently lowered to 29lbs just to check it out.
And no high speed wobble Mac.

Shock settings are very important and can really change how the bike handles. I would suggest starting in the 20-25lb range and adjust.

Check out the "Darkside" forums for lots of information.

http://mcdarksiders.forumotion.com
http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/mai...ng&nav=message

towering · 08-11-2009, 03:32 PM

How do you get the tire mounted. I asked 2 places and they said they wouldnt do it. Im willing to make the leap to the dark side but cant find anyone to mount it

dkdixie · 08-11-2009, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by towering

How do you get the tire mounted. I asked 2 places and they said they wouldnt do it. Im willing to make the leap to the dark side but cant find anyone to mount it

I looked in the installed database and didn't see one listed in SC. http://darkside.nwff.info/dealers.php
There is one in NC and I know the here one in Blairsville, GA.
The installer database is a very short national list.

Check with all the independent installers in your area. You'll find one.

Might also check the Darkside forums listed in above post and ask if there is any member in your area.

cactusjack · 08-11-2009, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by towering

How do you get the tire mounted. I asked 2 places and they said they wouldnt do it. Im willing to make the leap to the dark side but cant find anyone to mount it

You have to ask around. Think outside the box. A place that sells expensive custom automobile wheels did mine. Any place that can mount a tire on an expensive alloy wheel would have the right equipment to mount a tire on a motorcycle wheel. It took them less than 10 minutes.

The place I went to couldn't balance mine, which was okay because I was planning to use Dynabeads anyway. If you find a place willing to do yours, you might add their info to the installer database to help the next guy wanting to take the leap to the darkside.

blowndodge · 08-11-2009, 05:50 PM

Idaho and I went one step further and mounted a real man's "Truck" tire on our Nomads. 8 Ply 70lbs. max pressure rating. Over twice the load carrying capacity..

We let the other boyz here mount their puny soft car tires!!

'A man wants to feel like a man. FEEL LIKE A MAN! Well there's something about an Agua Velva Maaaaaaaaaaaan!!!!!'

trosco · 08-11-2009, 08:30 PM

BD; Agua Velva????? Is that the wierd yellow cheeze like substance that comes in 5lb boxes that you can only buy with food stamps???? What do you do with that stuff that makes you feel like a man??? No.... wait.... I don't want to know!
All kidding aside, I am preparing to take the 8 ply light truck tire path myself. Really like the GY triple tread tire but just can't get my arms around the drive shaft clearance issue with the 205/60x16. Don't want to give up any ground clearance with a 195/60 or 195/55 so want a 195/65x16 and the Conti light truck is the only choice i can find that size.

redjay · 08-12-2009, 11:10 AM

Wasnt Aqua Velva an aftershave lotion ?

**coacha** · 08-12-2009, 11:16 AM

Augua Velva also can be used as a cocktail ingredient...long story about drunk coaches at a conference....lol!

blowndodge · 08-12-2009, 12:09 PM

aftershave. I was singing the commercial!!! a little off key I might add!!

trosco · 08-12-2009, 12:19 PM

oh, yes, I guess I was thinking of Velveta not Velva!

no one gets my sense of humor, even I don't sometimes?

macmac · 08-12-2009, 02:26 PM

trosco, I got the joke, just hate that stuff..

phenrichs · 08-12-2009, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blowndodge "Darksider"

aftershave. I was singing the commercial!!! a little off key I might add!!

Offkey? Sounded fine from where I am sitting.

08-11-2009, 02:38 PM	#1
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08-11-2009, 02:49 PM	#2
cactusjack Mega-Contributor Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Where it doesn't snow...ever! Posts: 21,926	Darkside opinion One of the most popular tires for the Nomad is the Dunlop SP5000 195/60/16. It's close to the same diameter as the stock 170 rear tire. It's also what I have on my bike. Air pressure is a subjective thing. Generally you start out around 40-42 lbs for the first 500 miles. This is considered the break-in period. Then you start dropping pressure in 2 pound increments until you get the feel and response you want. I am currently at 34 pounds and I think it's fairly close to ideal. As far as the rear shock settings, I haven't tweaked mine at all. If you haven't already done so, I urge you to visit this forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/DarkSiding/messages You may have to sign up, but it's free. It has a wealth of information for people considering going to the darkside. There are also useful reference materials, like a database of different tires, what tires are right for your bike, and a list of installers. __________________ Scott "Cactusjack" Hanks VBA #00105 H.O.G. #4250060 2011 H-D Ultra Limited 103ci :: 2011 HD Electra Glide Ultra Limited w/Stage 1 :: Rallies: Mesquite '08\|Custer '09\|Cortez '10\|Crescent City '11\|Kanab '12\|Antlers '12\|Estes Park '13\|Antlers '13\|Orofino '14\|The Dalles '17
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08-11-2009, 03:15 PM	#3
macmac Sr. Contributor Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tamworth New Hampster 06 1600 Posts: 12,484	Darkside opinion I run the same tire Cj does, and like 36 psi. Cj lives in AZ where it is hot, while i live in New Hamshire where All Gore will be sending my summer re-bate chack soon. __________________ 06 1600 Nomad Just call me Mac molon labe come and get it
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08-11-2009, 03:23 PM	#4
dkdixie Sr. Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Blairsville in N. GA mountains Posts: 1,625	Darkside opinion Most common size for Nomads seems to be 195/60. Some are using 205/60 or 205/65. Not many choices in 195, lots in 205's. 205's fit but driveshaft clearance is a concern to some. As Scott mentioned, air pressure is totally subjective. You have to experiment to find your "sweet spot." Mac and I are about the same size. He runs 36lb and I was content at 33lb but recently lowered to 29lbs just to check it out. And no high speed wobble Mac. Shock settings are very important and can really change how the bike handles. I would suggest starting in the 20-25lb range and adjust. Check out the "Darkside" forums for lots of information. http://mcdarksiders.forumotion.com http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/mai...ng&nav=message __________________ Dick Campbell Blairsville, GA 2008 Red & Black Nomad 1600 (retired) 2009 1900 Yamaha Stratoliner (retired) 2013 1900 Yamaha Stratoliner 2018 CanAm RT Limited Spyder (Sold) 2014 Goldwing Roadsmith Red Trike (Sold) 2019 Goldwing DCT Roadsmith Copper & Black Trike VBA #243 Darkside #115 Patriot Guard Rider American Legion Rider
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08-11-2009, 03:32 PM	#5
towering Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lexington S.C Posts: 366	Darkside opinion How do you get the tire mounted. I asked 2 places and they said they wouldnt do it. Im willing to make the leap to the dark side but cant find anyone to mount it Login or Register to Remove Ads
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08-11-2009, 05:50 PM	#8
blowndodge Sr. Contributor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Washington City, Utah Posts: 16,474	Darkside opinion Idaho and I went one step further and mounted a real man's "Truck" tire on our Nomads. 8 Ply 70lbs. max pressure rating. Over twice the load carrying capacity.. We let the other boyz here mount their puny soft car tires!! 'A man wants to feel like a man. FEEL LIKE A MAN! Well there's something about an Agua Velva Maaaaaaaaaaaan!!!!!' __________________ I love my Victory Cross Country Tour 106. Smells like Victory! Ultra's are Limited There are two types of Harley riders. Those that trailer them and those that push them. The most Interesting Man in the World "Find the things in life you don't do well and don't do those things" Member # 0005
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08-11-2009, 08:30 PM	#9
trosco Sr. Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,464	Darkside opinion BD; Agua Velva????? Is that the wierd yellow cheeze like substance that comes in 5lb boxes that you can only buy with food stamps???? What do you do with that stuff that makes you feel like a man??? No.... wait.... I don't want to know! All kidding aside, I am preparing to take the 8 ply light truck tire path myself. Really like the GY triple tread tire but just can't get my arms around the drive shaft clearance issue with the 205/60x16. Don't want to give up any ground clearance with a 195/60 or 195/55 so want a 195/65x16 and the Conti light truck is the only choice i can find that size. __________________ trosco: just call me Ross 2007 Black & Titanium Nomad (Nomad made 65K but got replaced 2014) 2010 Titanium Goldwing 2014 KLR 650 New Edition
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08-12-2009, 11:10 AM	#10
redjay Top Contributor Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,017	Darkside opinion Wasnt Aqua Velva an aftershave lotion ?
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08-12-2009, 11:16 AM	#11
coacha Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Haysville, KS Posts: 6,259	Darkside opinion Augua Velva also can be used as a cocktail ingredient...long story about drunk coaches at a conference....lol! __________________ Ron "Coach" Allan, Haysville, KS 1999 Nomad Wine and Red "KawaTanker" 2009 BMW R1200RT 2003 BMW K1200LT "Magic Carpet" DOA 11/7/2015 VBA #00291 IBA # 41995 DS #320 '08 Elkins, WV; '09 Helen, GA; '09 Custer, SD; '10 Stanton, VA; '11 Maggie Valley; '12 Townsend, TN; '13 Estes Park; '13 Blairsville, GA; '15 Eureka Springs; '16 Helen; '18 Custer, SD
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08-12-2009, 12:09 PM	#12
blowndodge Sr. Contributor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Washington City, Utah Posts: 16,474	Darkside opinion aftershave. I was singing the commercial!!! a little off key I might add!! __________________ I love my Victory Cross Country Tour 106. Smells like Victory! Ultra's are Limited There are two types of Harley riders. Those that trailer them and those that push them. The most Interesting Man in the World "Find the things in life you don't do well and don't do those things" Member # 0005
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08-12-2009, 12:19 PM	#13
trosco Sr. Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,464	Darkside opinion oh, yes, I guess I was thinking of Velveta not Velva! no one gets my sense of humor, even I don't sometimes? __________________ trosco: just call me Ross 2007 Black & Titanium Nomad (Nomad made 65K but got replaced 2014) 2010 Titanium Goldwing 2014 KLR 650 New Edition
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08-12-2009, 02:26 PM	#14
macmac Sr. Contributor Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tamworth New Hampster 06 1600 Posts: 12,484	Darkside opinion trosco, I got the joke, just hate that stuff.. __________________ 06 1600 Nomad Just call me Mac molon labe come and get it
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