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Old 02-02-2014, 06:59 PM   #1
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Dark side? I just dont get it.

Given that a motorcyle tire is rounded across the tread area for an obvious reason and a car tire isn't rounded, can some learned person out there explain to me how a car tire on a motor bike can come even close to being safe while cornering in the wet?



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Old 02-02-2014, 07:07 PM   #2
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If you look at the car tire, you will there is ample tread on the rounded part to fliter out the water, unless you are a knee dragger then there is really no way you will not be on the treaded area of the tire when cornering in the wet. I have driven with the car tire in wet weather, in fact in downpours, and never had it break traction. Unlike the motorcycle tire which did send the rear sideways one time.
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Old 02-02-2014, 07:14 PM   #3
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If you look at the car tire, you will there is ample tread on the rounded part to fliter out the water, unless you are a knee dragger then there is really no way you will not be on the treaded area of the tire when cornering in the wet. I have driven with the car tire in wet weather, in fact in downpours, and never had it break traction. Unlike the motorcycle tire which did send the rear sideways one time.
But it dosent even come close to having the same contact area either.
Just doesn't make sence when you compare the two profiles.
 
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Old 02-02-2014, 07:22 PM   #4
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It's just a different feel. Like smokey said, if you are a kneedragger stick with a mc tire. If you get the chance to ride someones bike with a ct do it. Then you'll understand. I did and it's not for me. However I can see where straight line traction is greatly increased.
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Old 02-02-2014, 07:56 PM   #5
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But it dosent even come close to having the same contact area either.
Just doesn't make sence when you compare the two profiles.
How about you read the multiple threads regarding this on this forum and others. Try a Google search, too. Car tires work. That's all you need to know since you seem to be against them.
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Old 02-02-2014, 08:00 PM   #6
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How about you read the multiple threads regarding this on this forum and others. Try a Google search, too. Car tires work. That's all you need to know since you seem to be against them.
Done that. And no I'm not against them. Thought there might be some reasoning out there for their use given that I need a rear tire/tyre. Looks like its a suck it and see situation.
Always been frightened of the dark.

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Old 02-02-2014, 08:16 PM   #7
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If you are a conservative rider you will get much more mileage out of a car tire and they cost a lot less money
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Old 02-04-2014, 08:43 AM   #8
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Done that. And no I'm not against them. Thought there might be some reasoning out there for their use given that I need a rear tire/tyre. Looks like its a suck it and see situation.
Always been frightened of the dark.
It is definitely not a suck and see.

The CT will last 3-4 times as long as the MT, and cost less.

Go to youtube and look at a couple of videos. You WILL see that the tire does nott roll up on the side. It will deflect and leave a larger contact patch than an MT.

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Old 02-02-2014, 08:20 PM   #9
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But it dosent even come close to having the same contact area either.
Just doesn't make sence when you compare the two profiles.
Have you ever examined the actual contact area of a car tire and compared it to the contact area of a MC tire? I have and guess what, the car tire wins hands down.

Disclaimer: This was done on a cruiser (2006 Nomad specifically) and not on a crotch rocket. You can't lean a Nomad far enough to even get close to having less contact area. Others may vary.

If it makes you uncomfortable or uneasy to consider running a car tire, don't do it. I have no desire to try to convert anyone.
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Have you ever examined the actual contact area of a car tire and compared it to the contact area of a MC tire? I have and guess what, the car tire wins hands down.

Disclaimer: This was done on a cruiser (2006 Nomad specifically) and not on a crotch rocket. You can't lean a Nomad far enough to even get close to having less contact area. Others may vary.

If it makes you uncomfortable or uneasy to consider running a car tire, don't do it. I have no desire to try to convert anyone.
Looks like I may have hit a tender spot with this one..........crawling back into my hole now......good luck all you darksiders!
 
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Looks like I may have hit a tender spot with this one..........crawling back into my hole now......good luck all you darksiders!
No, not a tender spot and didn't mean it that way. I'm sorry if I came across that way.

You're question is legitimate.

Was just trying to make the point that a car tire actually has the same or larger contact patch as a motorcycle tire.

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Old 02-13-2014, 05:30 PM   #12
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But it dosent even come close to having the same contact area either.
Just doesn't make sence when you compare the two profiles.
I second the above ! every MT tire I ever ran slipped on me in some type of a situation. I have NEVER had a CT slip and once I was leaning into a yeild and had to brake at the same time ( hard ) and I stopped, I would have bet a $100 the MT would have slide sideways due to the rounded edge.

As to the contact, the CT has more contact patch on the ground in a corner ( proof is wet parking lot ) drive through water and corner and look at each one ) . not selling anyone on a CT. just know from experience and proof!
 
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You guys have actually persuaded me to try a CT. Having raced sport bikes in the past I used to look at CT tires on bikes and laugh but you guys have made some interesting observations and sound theories. Even if I don't run one I will not be as quick to judge on the matter.

Going to need a new tire soon. Might as well give it a shot. I have spent more money on ideas that were WAY crazier before.
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Old 02-14-2014, 08:42 PM   #14
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You guys have actually persuaded me to try a CT. Having raced sport bikes in the past I used to look at CT tires on bikes and laugh but you guys have made some interesting observations and sound theories. Even if I don't run one I will not be as quick to judge on the matter.

Going to need a new tire soon. Might as well give it a shot. I have spent more money on ideas that were WAY crazier before.
Yeah,good to hear. Give it a shot and if you don't like it there is nothing that says you have to stick with it.....I was hooked as soon as I took my first ride on mine!
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Old 02-13-2014, 11:51 PM   #15
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But it dosent even come close to having the same contact area either.
Just doesn't make sence when you compare the two profiles.
Wrong !! It has almost twice the contact area as a bike tire,when leaned over. Go to youtube, and chose dark side riders. and you will see the difference.
 
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