Oil Change Question....

LMP88 · 08-25-2016, 11:20 PM

2010 Nomad with 23k's... changed the oil(left it drain overnigh), added 5quarts of Valvoline 20w-50 synthetic. Went for a ride and 100 miles later the bike sounds like i have a diesel engine there...what gives?

Never had a single problem, i am hearing all type of noises, clunking and valve tapping?

Nope nothing at start up and it gets worse once the engine its warmed up...

Ideas??

dlars · 08-26-2016, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by LMP88

2010 Nomad with 23k's... changed the oil(left it drain overnigh), added 5quarts of Valvoline 20w-50 synthetic. Went for a ride and 100 miles later the bike sounds like i have a diesel engine there...what gives?

Never had a single problem, i am hearing all type of noises, clunking and valve tapping?

Nope nothing at start up and it gets worse once the engine its warmed up...

Ideas??

What oil were you running previous to this, and did you hear any of the same noise then? Did you make any changes to your bike before this noise started

Gypsy Dragon · 08-26-2016, 10:07 AM

Have you checked the oil since the noise started? Is the noise a mechanical clatter? Is it coming from the top end? Is it pinging? Sounds like a diesel isn't enough for me. Too many times, one person's idea of "sounds like a diesel" is very different from another's.

bladenbullet · 08-26-2016, 11:43 AM

did you pull the screen and clean it?....

recumbentbob · 08-26-2016, 02:44 PM

check your oil level according to the owner's manual. You may have too much or not enough oil in it.

landman · 08-27-2016, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bladenbullet

did you pull the screen and clean it?....

i doubt if he pulled the screen since the 1700 engine does not have one.

gv550 · 08-27-2016, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by landman

i doubt if he pulled the screen since the 1700 engine does not have one.

All VN1700 engines have 2 oil screens, because there are two oil pumps. Kawasaki does not specify cleaning them as regular maintenance (and they didn't recommend it for any other Vulcan model either) but the screens do collect a lot of clutch and gasket material so I keep mine clean. The screens were easy to access on the 800, 900, 1500, and 1600 and actually worked better than using the drain plug to change oil but the 1700 screens both require removing other parts to get them out.

**JD Hog** · 08-27-2016, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by gv550

All VN1700 engines have 2 oil screens, because there are two oil pumps. Kawasaki does not specify cleaning them as regular maintenance (and they didn't recommend it for any other Vulcan model either) but the screens do collect a lot of clutch and gasket material so I keep mine clean. The screens were easy to access on the 800, 900, 1500, and 1600 and actually worked better than using the drain plug to change oil but the 1700 screens both require removing other parts to get them out.

Garry,

What parts have to be removed?

gv550 · 08-27-2016, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JD Hog

Garry,

What parts have to be removed?

Fairing lowers, exhaust header, both footboards with shifter and brake, right-side frame segment, coolant, rad hose and pipe.
Obviously I don't do all this every oil change but if the coolant is drained or the the exhaust is off anyway it's not much more to clean the screens. The first time is always the most amount of debris collected.

LMP88 · 08-26-2016, 05:13 PM

Yeah its coming from the top end and Also crank case(like it has a loose nut inside), i had the same weight oil before. Only change now is i switched from an Oem filter to a bosch 3323. Its a clunck from the inside case. Bike Still got plenty of power, its just the sound. Also It DoesnT sound at Start up....Only when its warm and after a few miles of riding.

bpro215 · 08-26-2016, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by LMP88

Yeah its coming from the top end and Also crank case(like it has a loose nut inside), i had the same weight oil before. Only change now is i switched from an Oem filter to a bosch 3323. Its a clunck from the inside case. Bike Still got plenty of power, its just the sound. Also It DoesnT sound at Start up....Only when its warm and after a few miles of riding.

Use OEM Never had a problem here!!

Glenn54 · 08-27-2016, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by LMP88

Yeah its coming from the top end and Also crank case(like it has a loose nut inside), i had the same weight oil before. Only change now is i switched from an Oem filter to a bosch 3323. Its a clunck from the inside case. Bike Still got plenty of power, its just the sound. Also It DoesnT sound at Start up....Only when its warm and after a few miles of riding.

As others suggested, check the oil level per the manual. If still hearing a "clunk" and the oil level is OK, I'd take it to a shop and have them look at it to be on the safe side.

Bluemeanie · 08-27-2016, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Glenn54

As others suggested, check the oil level per the manual. If still hearing a "clunk" and the oil level is OK, I'd take it to a shop and have them look at it to be on the safe side.

I'd also drain the oil and see if there's anything obvious there, also change the filter, I'd do the filter anyway.

recumbentbob · 08-27-2016, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by LMP88

Yeah its coming from the top end and Also crank case(like it has a loose nut inside), i had the same weight oil before. Only change now is i switched from an Oem filter to a bosch 3323. Its a clunck from the inside case. Bike Still got plenty of power, its just the sound. Also It DoesnT sound at Start up....Only when its warm and after a few miles of riding.

Well what did you find????
Was it over filled with oil??

mike07nad · 08-27-2016, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by LMP88

2010 Nomad with 23k's... changed the oil(left it drain overnigh), added 5quarts of Valvoline 20w-50 synthetic. Went for a ride and 100 miles later the bike sounds like i have a diesel engine there...what gives?

Never had a single problem, i am hearing all type of noises, clunking and valve tapping?

Nope nothing at start up and it gets worse once the engine its warmed up...

Ideas??

Is the Valvoline that you put in it a Motorcycle Specific Oil? If it is normal CAR oil that MAY be a problem. Many oils have stuff in them to make them Slipperier and the wet clutch in your Nomad won't like that.

I have always used Rotella T6 5W-40 which has worked well for me for many miles and has a Motorcycle rating for use with Wet Clutches. (IE: No friction modifiers)

Question - Was that your first Oil Change in 23,000 miles? That oil must have been a thick sludge. If it was that long - all I can say is you should change it and the filter more often. 3,000 - 6,000 miles depending. I shoot for 5-6K with the Rotella.

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LMP88 Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Nyc Posts: 72	Yeah its coming from the top end and Also crank case(like it has a loose nut inside), i had the same weight oil before. Only change now is i switched from an Oem filter to a bosch 3323. Its a clunck from the inside case. Bike Still got plenty of power, its just the sound. Also It DoesnT sound at Start up....Only when its warm and after a few miles of riding.
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