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Old 11-19-2007, 12:30 AM   #1
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I have loved the look of the Nomads ever since they came out back in 98 or thereabout. I am really surprised about how little attention they get in the magazines or even on TV. You see VTX's all over the place. You would think they would make great police cruisers too and save departments big bucks over the Harley's and BMW's. The Hardbag design blows all others away as far as I see. I know most of the problem is Kawasaki not spendin the bucks to promote them like they should. I have tested most of the other mods and loved how much better the nomad handles and the smoothness of the motor and tranny. So what's the deal?




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Old 11-19-2007, 09:24 AM   #2
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Honda spends way more $$ on ads. our police here in Austin are all going with the BMW's they are so quite they can sneak up on you now,lol
 
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Old 11-19-2007, 09:45 AM   #3
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NW (had to give you initials like the rest of us) and Doc, you are both right on. Kaw doesn't seem to spend any money advertising and I'm not sure why. Honda, and Yamaha pump a lot of dough into advertising and Suzuki is now marketing their bikes with their cars.

One of the problems with advertising in this time is that it's all about mods and customizing. I've noticed that baggers in general don't get much press. I think because they're seen as difficult to customize and the mods are basic bolt on mods, the companies don't feel it's worth the marketing. IMO, it's a bad idea because with the right advertising, the companies could reach more young people and grow the market instead of just hitting us older folks.
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:11 AM   #4
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I think the magic words "older folks" is what's up with advertizing. I'll bet the manufacturers feel AD monies attract the younger "sportbike" crowd. Probaby the bucks they bring in for the manufactues is huge compare to what us "older folks" bring in.
 
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I think the magic words "older folks" is what's up with advertizing. I'll bet the manufacturers feel AD monies attract the younger "sportbike" crowd. Probaby the bucks they bring in for the manufactues is huge compare to what us "older folks" bring in.
We bring in a lot of money, but in the aftermarket arena and Kaw doesn't seem to have fully embraced that market. They could do so much with the original Vulcan, Mean Streak and 2000, but they don't. The mfg's direct advertising money at target audiences. Yamaha and Suzuki look to his us "older folks" , and push customizing because they recognize that we are willing to put the money into our bikes. Don't know what's up with Kaw.
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:40 AM   #6
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I don't get it, either. I see V-star ads in every motorcycle rag I read, Honda, too. Suzuki and Kawasaki don't advertise much. They own the sportbike market with the Kawasaki Ninja and the Suzuki GXSR and Hayabusa. H-D ads are everywhere. Kawasaki and Suzuki didn't get where they are by being stupid, so I'm sure they can justify the absence of advertising. The target audience for cruisers are older, more affluent adults, I'd think. As a rule, sportbikes are a lot cheaper.
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:50 AM   #7
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I watch the Nomads on ebay and there's very few being advertised right now. The ones that are up for sale aren't getting many bids. But it's not just the nomads that aren't selling. I got a call this morning from my wifes cousin in Daytona and he told me that Bruce Rossmeyer, the Harley King in Daytona and owner of five dealerships , just laid off eleven hundred people. Maybe people are just getting smarter and not buying high maintainance HD's .
 
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good to know info. oldbiker(O.B.),,,LOL
 
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:12 AM   #9
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I watch the Nomads on ebay and there's very few being advertised right now. The ones that are up for sale aren't getting many bids. But it's not just the nomads that aren't selling. I got a call this morning from my wifes cousin in Daytona and he told me that Bruce Rossmeyer, the Harley King in Daytona and owner of five dealerships , just laid off eleven hundred people. Maybe people are just getting smarter and not buying high maintainance HD's .
1100 people means 220 per dealership. What do they do all day, pose as customers?

Nomads sell themselves. ;)
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I watch the Nomads on ebay and there's very few being advertised right now. The ones that are up for sale aren't getting many bids. But it's not just the nomads that aren't selling. I got a call this morning from my wifes cousin in Daytona and he told me that Bruce Rossmeyer, the Harley King in Daytona and owner of five dealerships , just laid off eleven hundred people. Maybe people are just getting smarter and not buying high maintainance HD's .
There are enough of them out there sitting in garages and never ridden that the used market is overtaking the new market.
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Kawasaki advertised the Vulcan 900 pretty good, fo a while they were in every magazine.
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our police here in Austin are all going with the BMW's they are so quite they can sneak up on you now,lol
Pasadena motor officers are migrating back to gold wings from HD's, so anybody looking to buy a used HD might check with them. I know several officers with rides for sale. Why anyone would wish to move away from a Nomad though, is beyond my comprehension.

 
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It would be nice if there were more accessories available , Both Harley and V Star have pretty good sized catalogs loaded with custom stuff. We just have to rob the best from everybody to dress up our bikes, which is ok I guess, part of the fun is finding the accessories and discussing it on forums like this one. One thing I did notice in travelling the U.S. is that I seen billboards advertising Harley Dealers, and yet when I search the phone book Kawasaki dealers are far and few between with generally poor inventory. This I noticed was primarily in the Pennsylvania and New York states. Is the rest of the country like this ?" I wonder if this is because americans are quite patriotic and even though Nomads are great bikes some guys feel obligated to support Harley , Victory and shortly Indian Overall thats the bueaty of having a choice.
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It would be nice if there were more accessories available , Both Harley and V Star have pretty good sized catalogs loaded with custom stuff. We just have to rob the best from everybody to dress up our bikes, which is ok I guess, part of the fun is finding the accessories and discussing it on forums like this one. One thing I did notice in travelling the U.S. is that I seen billboards advertising Harley Dealers, and yet when I search the phone book Kawasaki dealers are far and few between with generally poor inventory. This I noticed was primarily in the Pennsylvania and New York states. Is the rest of the country like this ?" I wonder if this is because americans are quite patriotic and even though Nomads are great bikes some guys feel obligated to support Harley , Victory and shortly Indian Overall thats the bueaty of having a choice.
Before I bought my Nomad, I went to 2 Kawasaki dealers. One had 2 '07's in stock, both the same color, the other (whom I ended up giving my business to), had 4 - all black. The first dealer I went to, the salesman didn't know anything about the Nomad. He told me it had a six-speed transmission, and the turn signals didn't self-cancel, among other erroneous bits of info. He also said the price was $15,500. I may have been born at night, but I wasn't born that night.

The second dealer was knowledgeable and actually seemed to want to sell me one. Still, in both dealerships, the vast majority of their floor space was dedicated to Ninja's and ATV's. The Vulcans were relegated to the far corner of the showroom.

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[quote:kcbehpts]It would be nice if there were more accessories available , Both Harley and V Star have pretty good sized catalogs loaded with custom stuff. We just have to rob the best from everybody to dress up our bikes, which is ok I guess, part of the fun is finding the accessories and discussing it on forums like this one. One thing I did notice in travelling the U.S. is that I seen billboards advertising Harley Dealers, and yet when I search the phone book Kawasaki dealers are far and few between with generally poor inventory. This I noticed was primarily in the Pennsylvania and New York states. Is the rest of the country like this ?" I wonder if this is because americans are quite patriotic and even though Nomads are great bikes some guys feel obligated to support Harley , Victory and shortly Indian Overall thats the bueaty of having a choice.
Before I bought my Nomad, I went to 2 Kawasaki dealers. One had 2 '07's in stock, both the same color, the other (whom I ended up giving my business to), had 4 - all black. The first dealer I went to, the salesman didn't know anything about the Nomad. He told me it had a six-speed transmission, and the turn signals didn't self-cancel, among other erroneous bits of info. He also said the price was $15,500. I may have been born at night, but I wasn't born that night.

The second dealer was knowledgeable and actually seemed to want to sell me one. Still, in both dealerships, the vast majority of their floor space was dedicated to Ninja's and ATV's. The Vulcans were relegated to the far corner of the showroom.

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Same here, CJ. The stealer I bought mine at was more interested in selling me a Mule or 4-wheeler. But, I have to give the saleman credit, he did know his stuff about the Nomad. I had done my research before going in.

I'm hoping that in the future, KawaNOW can get big enough and respected enough to possibly become a customer feedback board for Kawasaki......yeah, I know, maybe I'm dreaming, but it would be nice if we could, as a group, give our pros and cons about the Nomad to Kawasaki and they listen to us.

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