Help please

skyhookman · 07-27-2008, 09:27 AM

Did a long high speed run, immediately pulled plugs. Plug insulators snow white, except for a very very small trace of light tan on the tip of the insulator at rhe electrode, and on the ground electrode. Pipes are dry chaulkey black suit. Gas milage down from 35mph to 28mpgs. run several tanks of gasoline from different brand all the same. oil level and coollant level stay the same. Checked air temp sensor and tps by the book all in correct range. Did a self dignostics no faults logged. Starts good and run ok. Did the sea foam thing didn't make any difference. I thought I was running rick by the pipes and mileage, but not sure after looking at the plugs. It sxxxs though.

Thanks for any suggestions or help, ??? :-/ :'(

07-27-2008, 09:38 AM

The experts will answer soon...... in the meantime I'd throw half a can of Sea Foam in the tank!

cactusjack · 07-27-2008, 10:02 AM

What year Nomad and how many miles on it?

naugaman · 07-27-2008, 08:12 PM

Sounds like the same thing that happened to my 05. I could not figure out what was going on either. Finally cleaned up the air intake tube with sea foam and ran some in the tank and was able to finally bring the mileage back up. On another note, when I did put the sea foam in the gas tank, my fuel level indicator went bad. Do not know if the sea foam caused it or the sending unit was just going out.

**ringadingh** · 07-27-2008, 08:15 PM

Id clean the throttle body with carb cleaner, and a toothbrush.Theres a good chance this will restore your mileage and youll most likely have to turn the idle down a bit also. Its done the trick for a few of us here with the same symptoms as your bike.

07-27-2008, 10:11 PM

Yeah, I do that throttle cleaning every couple thousand miles. It really takes little time and pays off well in gas saved and snappier performance.

skyhookman · 07-28-2008, 04:24 AM

Its a 2005, stock all the way, I do have the k&n air filter which I cleaned good. I'll try another can of sea foam, and do a good throttle body cleaning, I forgot to
do that. I must be slipping in my old age.

Thanks, for the replies

**ringadingh** · 07-28-2008, 07:41 AM

If you have never cleaned the throttle body, and the bike is an 05 , Id bet thats your problem. Its only a 10-15 minute job and makes a big difference.

blowndodge · 07-28-2008, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by machodc

The experts will answer soon...... in the meantime I'd throw half a can of Sea Foam in the tank!

<marquee>What part of "did the sea foam thing" didn't you understand?

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macmac · 07-28-2008, 12:26 PM

The bike is leaner than it might need to be. many bikes all stock don't run near the book guesstimate of 45 MPG's, and I believe because they are overly leaned out to pass EPA.

I just went 89.0 miles and bought 2.03 gallons of gas to fill it. This seems to be 43.84 MPG's to me..

**Top Cat** · 07-28-2008, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blowndodge "Darksider"

Quote:

Originally Posted by machodc

The experts will answer soon...... in the meantime I'd throw half a can of Sea Foam in the tank!

<marquee>What part of "did the sea foam thing" didn't you understand?

</marquee>

Obviously the WHOLE sentence ;)

07-28-2008, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blowndodge "Darksider"

Quote:

Originally Posted by machodc

The experts will answer soon...... in the meantime I'd throw half a can of Sea Foam in the tank!

<marquee>What part of "did the sea foam thing" didn't you understand?

</marquee>

I missed it B-Dog.... had you on my mind! :-*

blowndodge · 07-28-2008, 05:48 PM

Drinking him pretty too are ya????

skyhookman · 08-06-2008, 11:01 PM

Update, Did another can of sea foam, cleaned the throttle body, looks like new money, white rag in white rag out. Did a tps adjustment, it was already high but I maxed her on out, can run 87 if I need to, but will run 89 while gas is down a little. Checked a couple more sensors out, ck ok. After riding all day to day the mileage was up to 31-mph, Guess I can live with that. If any one has any more ideas, I'll try them.

rlfaubion · 08-07-2008, 12:29 AM

whatever a TPI is - is your problem IMO.... What I'm say'n is forget all that stuff and do the BD garage mods, and you'll be happy. Christ, it isn't gonna run like a crotch rocket and it's not a hot rod., and it will never have that sweet mellow sound of a Harley (PM me if you want to know why).... It's a metric cruiser or a touring bike depending on what thread you prefer. I sincerly hope you get'r figgered out my friend.

Be a simple kinda man my son, won't you do this if you can....

07-27-2008, 09:27 AM	#1
skyhookman Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: southeast, ky Posts: 247	Help please Did a long high speed run, immediately pulled plugs. Plug insulators snow white, except for a very very small trace of light tan on the tip of the insulator at rhe electrode, and on the ground electrode. Pipes are dry chaulkey black suit. Gas milage down from 35mph to 28mpgs. run several tanks of gasoline from different brand all the same. oil level and coollant level stay the same. Checked air temp sensor and tps by the book all in correct range. Did a self dignostics no faults logged. Starts good and run ok. Did the sea foam thing didn't make any difference. I thought I was running rick by the pipes and mileage, but not sure after looking at the plugs. It sxxxs though. Thanks for any suggestions or help, ??? :-/ :'( Login or Register to Remove Ads
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07-27-2008, 09:38 AM	#2
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07-27-2008, 08:12 PM	#4
naugaman Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Vegas Posts: 280	Help please Sounds like the same thing that happened to my 05. I could not figure out what was going on either. Finally cleaned up the air intake tube with sea foam and ran some in the tank and was able to finally bring the mileage back up. On another note, when I did put the sea foam in the gas tank, my fuel level indicator went bad. Do not know if the sea foam caused it or the sending unit was just going out.
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07-27-2008, 08:15 PM	#5
ringadingh Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newmarket Ontario Canada Posts: 35,387	Help please Id clean the throttle body with carb cleaner, and a toothbrush.Theres a good chance this will restore your mileage and youll most likely have to turn the idle down a bit also. Its done the trick for a few of us here with the same symptoms as your bike. __________________ 2002 Nomad aka Bountyhunter VBA #27 VROC #18951 Login or Register to Remove Ads
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07-27-2008, 10:11 PM	#6
Guest Posts: n/a	Help please Yeah, I do that throttle cleaning every couple thousand miles. It really takes little time and pays off well in gas saved and snappier performance.
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07-28-2008, 04:24 AM	#7
skyhookman Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: southeast, ky Posts: 247	Help please Its a 2005, stock all the way, I do have the k&n air filter which I cleaned good. I'll try another can of sea foam, and do a good throttle body cleaning, I forgot to do that. I must be slipping in my old age. Thanks, for the replies
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07-28-2008, 07:41 AM	#8
ringadingh Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newmarket Ontario Canada Posts: 35,387	Help please If you have never cleaned the throttle body, and the bike is an 05 , Id bet thats your problem. Its only a 10-15 minute job and makes a big difference. __________________ 2002 Nomad aka Bountyhunter VBA #27 VROC #18951
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07-28-2008, 12:26 PM	#10
macmac Sr. Contributor Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tamworth New Hampster 06 1600 Posts: 12,484	Help please The bike is leaner than it might need to be. many bikes all stock don't run near the book guesstimate of 45 MPG's, and I believe because they are overly leaned out to pass EPA. I just went 89.0 miles and bought 2.03 gallons of gas to fill it. This seems to be 43.84 MPG's to me.. __________________ 06 1600 Nomad Just call me Mac molon labe come and get it
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blowndodge Sr. Contributor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Washington City, Utah Posts: 16,474	Help please Drinking him pretty too are ya???? __________________ I love my Victory Cross Country Tour 106. Smells like Victory! Ultra's are Limited There are two types of Harley riders. Those that trailer them and those that push them. The most Interesting Man in the World "Find the things in life you don't do well and don't do those things" Member # 0005
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08-06-2008, 11:01 PM	#14
skyhookman Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: southeast, ky Posts: 247	Help please Update, Did another can of sea foam, cleaned the throttle body, looks like new money, white rag in white rag out. Did a tps adjustment, it was already high but I maxed her on out, can run 87 if I need to, but will run 89 while gas is down a little. Checked a couple more sensors out, ck ok. After riding all day to day the mileage was up to 31-mph, Guess I can live with that. If any one has any more ideas, I'll try them.
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08-07-2008, 12:29 AM	#15
rlfaubion Sr. Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,582	Help please whatever a TPI is - is your problem IMO.... What I'm say'n is forget all that stuff and do the BD garage mods, and you'll be happy. Christ, it isn't gonna run like a crotch rocket and it's not a hot rod., and it will never have that sweet mellow sound of a Harley (PM me if you want to know why).... It's a metric cruiser or a touring bike depending on what thread you prefer. I sincerly hope you get'r figgered out my friend. Be a simple kinda man my son, won't you do this if you can....
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