Wobbbal. After tip.

usranger74 · 06-07-2011, 08:02 PM

I think I have a front end wobble at low speeds and when turning at slow speeds. Its not bad but it is there.

I have not been on my Nomad (07) for about 50 days. I was packing it today and checking the oil when (I want go into the details) it tipped over. It tip onto its right side. The front tire was tuned to the right when she tipped.

While the bike was on the floor I tried turning the front tire back to the left. The bike was put back right up with the help of a friend.

So, on my ck ride full loaded I noticed the wobble at slow speeds. It may have been there 50 days ago but now I am a little paranoid that I may have damaged the front end trying to right the bike.

My gear is loaded in a pack across the back seat, in the two hard bags, a tour trunk and a trunk pack. Total weight does not exceed 55 lbs.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

**Top Cat** · 06-07-2011, 08:05 PM

It seems hard to believe you could damage something picking up the boke.
How are your tires? Is the front one cupped at all?

AlabamaNomadRider · 06-07-2011, 08:08 PM

If it just fell over it shouldn't have done anything to the front end. The crash bars would have taken most of the hit. I dropped mine with me on it on the left side. Did damage the front end at all. Just scrathes on my crash bars, curled clutch lever and messed up mirror. Replaced the mirror, clutch lever and the rear crash bar.

Is it possible Bill that it has been sitting and you possibly have a flat spot on your tire. I would have try riding it at slow speeds to see if it got better.

I know this isn't much help but I don't think it would have it the front end hard enough. It could have struck the handlebar and caused some damage. Maybe you need to go into detain about what happened and how it landed.

Dave · 06-07-2011, 08:20 PM

Time sell it! Damaged goods.

AlabamaNomadRider · 06-07-2011, 08:25 PM

Probably just a minor thing Bill. As TC mentioned the tires may have cupped or you could have a bump or knot on the tire. Could have developed while it was sitting.

jandreu · 06-07-2011, 08:51 PM

Possible but not likely but you may have torqued the fork alignment.
Someone posted a while back an easy fix for this, can't remember who but maybe they will chime in.

usranger74 · 06-07-2011, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Top Cat (TC)

It seems hard to believe you could damage something picking up the bike.
How are your tires? Is the front one cupped at all?

Tires are Avon with less than 2,000 miles AP has been kept at 38 psi. Tire is good

usranger74 · 06-07-2011, 09:16 PM

I don't think the handle bar hit the floor. Crash bars did their job. I might have torqued it when it was on the floor and I turned the front wheel back to the left.

Well, heck. I am off to MV in the AM. If I were staying here I would considered taking it to a dealer for a look over. I will take it easy and see if it get worse or not.

**ringadingh** · 06-07-2011, 09:34 PM

I doubt that just landing on the crash bars would damage the steering in any way. If your tire is partially worn that may be the cause, although I seen you say there is less than 2000 miles on them. It seems a lot of Nomads tend to wobble.

**glwilson** · 06-07-2011, 09:52 PM

My bike cart-wheeled and rolled on both sides for about 30-40 yards and the front forks (including the bearings) checked-out just fine.

So... laying your bike over onto the crash-bars and lifting it back up has NOT done any damage (given that is EXACTLY what happened).

Nomads have an inherent wobble in their front end. Many debates have occurred about the cause and many solutions "cure" the problem.

Since you are leaving now on a long ride to MV... take it easy going down and be careful... knowing that you have a "wobble" problem.

I might add... you didn't mention it... but did you hit the front brake just before it went down? If so... you caused the problem. Do not touch the front brake when the bike is turned sharply. It will only result in the bike going-down. Don't know if that happened, but don't feel bad if it did. There are plenty around that will tell you they learned that fact the hard-way. Nothing to be embarrassed about... but plenty to learn from. ;)

Ride safe and we'll see you in MV.

cactusjack · 06-07-2011, 11:12 PM

My bike went down on the left side around 40 MPH, then flipped over on its right side and slid for 60 feet down the road. I rode it home and didn't notice any problem with the steering.

I don't think you could have damaged anything picking it up.

recumbentbob · 06-08-2011, 10:00 AM

check your tire pressure and pressure in your shocks. Check the damper setting on the shocks probably increase them because of the extra load.

I think the extra load on the bike is making the front end a little light. and the fact that you haven't ridden it in so long.

kawgirl · 06-08-2011, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glwilson

My bike cart-wheeled and rolled on both sides for about 30-40 yards and the front forks (including the bearings) checked-out just fine.

So... laying your bike over onto the crash-bars and lifting it back up has NOT done any damage (given that is EXACTLY what happened).

Nomads have an inherent wobble in their front end. Many debates have occurred about the cause and many solutions "cure" the problem.

Since you are leaving now on a long ride to MV... take it easy going down and be careful... knowing that you have a "wobble" problem.

I might add... you didn't mention it... but did you hit the front brake just before it went down? If so... you caused the problem. Do not touch the front brake when the bike is turned sharply. It will only result in the bike going-down. Don't know if that happened, but don't feel bad if it did. There are plenty around that will tell you they learned that fact the hard-way. Nothing to be embarrassed about... but plenty to learn from. ;)

Ride safe and we'll see you in MV.

It doesn't sound like he was riding when it fell over. I understand his saying it was in the garage or on the driveway and just tipped over.

I know what you're talking about gl. I won't say why. :-/

dougster · 06-08-2011, 11:11 PM

MV=? Missouri Valley? ;)

If you happen to be coming by Crete, stop in and say hello!

waterman · 06-08-2011, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dougster

MV=? Missouri Valley? ;)

If you happen to be coming by Crete, stop in and say hello!

MV = Maggie Valley, NC

06-07-2011, 08:02 PM	#1
usranger74 Sr. Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: La Vista, NE Posts: 4,060	Wobbbal. After tip. I think I have a front end wobble at low speeds and when turning at slow speeds. Its not bad but it is there. I have not been on my Nomad (07) for about 50 days. I was packing it today and checking the oil when (I want go into the details) it tipped over. It tip onto its right side. The front tire was tuned to the right when she tipped. While the bike was on the floor I tried turning the front tire back to the left. The bike was put back right up with the help of a friend. So, on my ck ride full loaded I noticed the wobble at slow speeds. It may have been there 50 days ago but now I am a little paranoid that I may have damaged the front end trying to right the bike. My gear is loaded in a pack across the back seat, in the two hard bags, a tour trunk and a trunk pack. Total weight does not exceed 55 lbs. Any thoughts or suggestions? __________________ Bill (usranger74) Blake 2016 Goldwing VBA # 1505 Login or Register to Remove Ads
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06-07-2011, 08:05 PM	#2
Top Cat Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Peoples Republic of New York State Posts: 15,154	Wobbbal. After tip. It seems hard to believe you could damage something picking up the boke. How are your tires? Is the front one cupped at all? __________________ Tim "TC" Conley VBA #9 2011 Victory Kingpin mine 2013 Victory Boardwalk -hers [LEFT][COLOR=#000000] [SIZE=4]
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06-07-2011, 08:08 PM	#3
AlabamaNomadRider Sr. Contributor Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Boaz, Alabama Posts: 13,742	Wobbbal. After tip. If it just fell over it shouldn't have done anything to the front end. The crash bars would have taken most of the hit. I dropped mine with me on it on the left side. Did damage the front end at all. Just scrathes on my crash bars, curled clutch lever and messed up mirror. Replaced the mirror, clutch lever and the rear crash bar. Is it possible Bill that it has been sitting and you possibly have a flat spot on your tire. I would have try riding it at slow speeds to see if it got better. I know this isn't much help but I don't think it would have it the front end hard enough. It could have struck the handlebar and caused some damage. Maybe you need to go into detain about what happened and how it landed. __________________ Gene Cross, Jr. Boaz, Alabama KawaNOW/VBA #1181
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06-07-2011, 08:20 PM	#4
Dave Sr. Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Itchycoo Park Posts: 3,422	Wobbbal. After tip. Time sell it! Damaged goods.
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06-07-2011, 08:25 PM	#5
AlabamaNomadRider Sr. Contributor Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Boaz, Alabama Posts: 13,742	Wobbbal. After tip. Probably just a minor thing Bill. As TC mentioned the tires may have cupped or you could have a bump or knot on the tire. Could have developed while it was sitting. __________________ Gene Cross, Jr. Boaz, Alabama KawaNOW/VBA #1181 Login or Register to Remove Ads
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06-07-2011, 08:51 PM	#6
jandreu Sr. Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Makawao, Hawaii Posts: 1,409	Wobbbal. After tip. Possible but not likely but you may have torqued the fork alignment. Someone posted a while back an easy fix for this, can't remember who but maybe they will chime in. __________________ James Andreu '07 1600 Red/Silver VBA Member #1356 jandreu@hawaiiantel.net
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06-07-2011, 09:16 PM	#8
usranger74 Sr. Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: La Vista, NE Posts: 4,060	Wobbbal. After tip. I don't think the handle bar hit the floor. Crash bars did their job. I might have torqued it when it was on the floor and I turned the front wheel back to the left. Well, heck. I am off to MV in the AM. If I were staying here I would considered taking it to a dealer for a look over. I will take it easy and see if it get worse or not. __________________ Bill (usranger74) Blake 2016 Goldwing VBA # 1505
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06-07-2011, 09:34 PM	#9
ringadingh Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newmarket Ontario Canada Posts: 35,387	Wobbbal. After tip. I doubt that just landing on the crash bars would damage the steering in any way. If your tire is partially worn that may be the cause, although I seen you say there is less than 2000 miles on them. It seems a lot of Nomads tend to wobble. __________________ 2002 Nomad aka Bountyhunter VBA #27 VROC #18951
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06-07-2011, 09:52 PM	#10
glwilson Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: North Central Illinois Posts: 8,575	Wobbbal. After tip. My bike cart-wheeled and rolled on both sides for about 30-40 yards and the front forks (including the bearings) checked-out just fine. So... laying your bike over onto the crash-bars and lifting it back up has NOT done any damage (given that is EXACTLY what happened). Nomads have an inherent wobble in their front end. Many debates have occurred about the cause and many solutions "cure" the problem. Since you are leaving now on a long ride to MV... take it easy going down and be careful... knowing that you have a "wobble" problem. I might add... you didn't mention it... but did you hit the front brake just before it went down? If so... you caused the problem. Do not touch the front brake when the bike is turned sharply. It will only result in the bike going-down. Don't know if that happened, but don't feel bad if it did. There are plenty around that will tell you they learned that fact the hard-way. Nothing to be embarrassed about... but plenty to learn from. ;) Ride safe and we'll see you in MV. __________________ "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." "You can have your own opinion, but not your own facts." *Former VBA NCR Assist Regional Leader* Formerly: 2004 1500FI Bronze Nomad: 2009 & 2014 HD Ultra Current Rides: 2017 HD Ultra Limited & 2011 Can Am Spyder RTS-SE Attended: VBA National Rallies 2009, 2011, 2015; VBA/NCR Regional Rally 2010, 12, 14, 16 and several rides throughout with regional members. VBA Member #652 HOG Member #3935417
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06-07-2011, 11:12 PM	#11
cactusjack Mega-Contributor Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Where it doesn't snow...ever! Posts: 21,926	Wobbbal. After tip. My bike went down on the left side around 40 MPH, then flipped over on its right side and slid for 60 feet down the road. I rode it home and didn't notice any problem with the steering. I don't think you could have damaged anything picking it up. __________________ Scott "Cactusjack" Hanks VBA #00105 H.O.G. #4250060 2011 H-D Ultra Limited 103ci :: 2011 HD Electra Glide Ultra Limited w/Stage 1 :: Rallies: Mesquite '08\|Custer '09\|Cortez '10\|Crescent City '11\|Kanab '12\|Antlers '12\|Estes Park '13\|Antlers '13\|Orofino '14\|The Dalles '17
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06-08-2011, 10:00 AM	#12
recumbentbob Sr. Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Newburgh IN Posts: 3,404	Wobbbal. After tip. check your tire pressure and pressure in your shocks. Check the damper setting on the shocks probably increase them because of the extra load. I think the extra load on the bike is making the front end a little light. and the fact that you haven't ridden it in so long. __________________ VBA #01084 "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
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06-08-2011, 11:11 PM	#14
dougster Advanced Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Crete, Nebraska Posts: 679	Wobbbal. After tip. MV=? Missouri Valley? ;) If you happen to be coming by Crete, stop in and say hello! __________________ Doug Witzke - "Dougster" 2003 Nomad 1500 VBA# 740
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