V & H Baffle Project Update

[jasperboy]

Dropped off the drawings and pics to my customer this morning. He said he make up a set, per the drawings, and then formulate a price to produce. He asked what our material preference was? I said aluminum would be nice, but not necessary, any thoughts from the group.? He asked about the screens, but I said to just start with the baffle & pin. How many have an interest if I can get these produced? I know it will depend on price, but I'm pretty sure I'll get a "good" deal.

[dkdixie]

Originally Posted by jasperboy

Dropped off the drawings and pics to my customer this morning. He said he make up a set, per the drawings, and then formulate a price to produce. He asked what our material preference was? I said aluminum would be nice, but not necessary, any thoughts from the group.? He asked about the screens, but I said to just start with the baffle & pin. How many have an interest if I can get these produced? I know it will depend on price, but I'm pretty sure I'll get a "good" deal.

So, if you are having a set made, I'll take your name off the "loaner" list.

[ice793]

Depending on price I would be interested again if the price is right.

[oldbikers]

I told Chris in Custer how I made mine if you remove your baffles and cut them where they taper down to the baffle on each end then take the two ends and weld them together add a pin or a screen and you have about the same sound. Very cheap

[nomad561]

If I like them as much as I think I will,then I would be very interested in a set.
I don't know many machinists but I am going to talk to one next week about these.

[jasperboy]

I'll wait until I get a price quote, but my guy is the owner of a multi-million $ fabrication company, and he'd be doing it as a fover to me. I anticipate a very "resonable" cost.

[sharps45100]

I would be interested once you get a price and I have a chance to try the loaners of dkdixie.

Oldbiker I was wondering if something like that would work?

[borto1990]

just a reminder to guys.. the baffles are a bit different on different bikes. I made my set.. LOVE EM.. However, I started out with just the pin. I didn't have the low end performance and it made a goofy, whistle type noise if I hit the throttle. Talked with dkdixie I believe and he informed me of the screen trick. I took the pin out of mine and put the screen in, I can't remember if he pulled his pin as well. I believe netnorske has both pin and screen. VulcanE I believe is just pin and no screen. So just something to think about. Maybe when they are made they can put the pin hole in as well as tap 4 holes on the back incase they need the screen as well. it's a thin screen, I am sure most could shape it by hand once it's bolted on. Just my 2 cents!! Personally, I love em and think they are worth the little tinkerin that needs to be done!!

[dkdixie]

Originally Posted by borto1990

just a reminder to guys.. the baffles are a bit different on different bikes. I made my set.. LOVE EM.. However, I started out with just the pin. I didn't have the low end performance and it made a goofy, whistle type noise if I hit the throttle. Talked with dkdixie I believe and he informed me of the screen trick. I took the pin out of mine and put the screen in, I can't remember if he pulled his pin as well. I believe netnorske has both pin and screen. VulcanE I believe is just pin and no screen. So just something to think about. Maybe when they are made they can put the pin hole in as well as tap 4 holes on the back incase they need the screen as well. it's a thin screen, I am sure most could shape it by hand once it's bolted on. Just my 2 cents!! Personally, I love em and think they are worth the little tinkerin that needs to be done!!

Well put borto.

And the reasons multiply.

First and foremost V&H pipes are not truly round! At least Cliff's and mine aren't. VulcanE found this out when making the first set.
So, you could be trying to put a round baffle in an oblong hole. There can be various degrees of blow by around the baffle creating strange noises.
Probably the only thing consistent size is the original baffle....or the Ultimate baffle for the matter. As Cliff said, "I could make these within .001 if the pipes were consistent and the baffle would still slide in and out."
When Cliff started making these, he used measurements from the original V&H baffle, and rightly so. Have to have a starting point...the one size fits all concept.
Couple this fact with how the baffles mount with two bolts pulling the baffles down which can make it relatively "tight" at the bottom and larger gap at the top.

I've always had a "buzzing" sound with my pipes. Worse when I had the stock baffles. Seems to be only coming from the left side. Only time I can really hear it is passing traffic or going over a bridge. Thought it was an exhaust leak.....which it isn't. For some unknown reason the pin made it sound worse.
That's one reason I started messing with the screens.....or stainless steel shower drain covers, which is what they are.
Found the screens changed the tone, increased back pressure, and seemed to give better performance by the seat feel dyno.

Then I tried different screens (pictures on "Loaner baffle" thread), less holes, more back pressure, lower sound, quieter when cruising at consistent speed and (you'll love this)....the bike just flat out has more power and runs better. Ask Cliff....we had a little race one day.

I'm hoping, with more of Ultimates out there, somebody will come up with another idea.
As borto said, they're worth tinkering with.....

[nomad561]

I'm hoping I'll like these as much as everyone else does.I'll be installing the loaner set today and will post my review tonight.
My thanks to dkdixie for the loaners and to everyone else for the opinions and ideas.

[ice793]

Let us know how you like them W.N. i really want to try or buy these

[nomad561]

I tried to install them yesterday but I guess I have drug my pipes too many times. The outside screw on the righthand muffler is messed up.I'm going to work on it today.

[pjn426]

I'm on the loaner list to try but based on everyone's reviews, probably would be interested in a set. Thanks

[nomad561]

I got them installed but was busy all day yesterday.We are going for a nice long ride today.I'll post a review tonight.

[dogdoc]

jasperboy: I might be interested IF your friend can make them with a removal pin AND 4 holes taped for the screens? is this possible for him? Would we then just buy Home Depot bath shields and would the holes match up? i would like to have the capability to either run just pins OR pins and screen OR just screen. Depends on what I like to my ears? let me know and count me in.

Dennis