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n9151 · 08-15-2009, 10:43 PM

the ol Nomad has developed a periodic problem of what sounds like the bendix failing to engage. Anyone else had a problem like this and what and how much would the fix be. thanx in advance

**ringadingh** · 08-16-2009, 06:12 AM

Starter problems seems to be rare, your the first Ive heard of with one. Are you sure that your battery is really good, sometimes loose connections play havoc with the starter.

macmac · 08-16-2009, 09:24 AM

The start motor runs, but the engine won't turn?

n9151 · 08-16-2009, 12:37 PM

The battery was my first consideration. It is less than 3 months old. I cleaned and tightened the connections after the first problem. No the starter does not engage. I really sounds like a battery or connection problem the way it clicks. If and when I find out the problem I'll post.

**Kawhead** · 08-16-2009, 01:48 PM

One rider had a loose connection where the ground wire attaches to the frame. On mine I bought a new battery refusing to believe it was the starter and it turned out to be the starter.

macmac · 08-16-2009, 04:16 PM

So what is the click? One press of the button and one click?

Or one press of the button and zillion clicks till you let go?

cyclecat · 08-16-2009, 06:53 PM

Brian's Nomad developed the same thing a couple of months ago, just wouldn't start no mater what he did. He tried and tried the started button and finally she would go when he pulled in the clutch (and no, the kill switch was not off and yes it was in neutral). He took a can of WD40, sprayed the clutch switch, cleaned it up, pulled the clutch a few times, and hasn't had the problem again.

dogdoc · 08-16-2009, 07:49 PM

great news.

macmac · 08-16-2009, 08:10 PM

On this one I just today discovered my bike won't start with the side stand down in gear, clutch pulled in.. it should, but it should quit if I let the clutch out.

Me thinks the side stand switch is the culprit.

What n9151's problem is I don't know yet..... Would that be code for 1951? That was a purty good year if you ask me

Yellow Jacket · 08-16-2009, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by macmac

On this one I just today discovered my bike won't start with the side stand down in gear, clutch pulled in.. it should, but it should quit if I let the clutch out.

Me thinks the side stand switch is the culprit.

According to the chart in the 1600 service manual if the side stand is down and the transmission is in gear the engine will not start regardless of whether the clutch is pulled in or released. Likewise if the engine is running and it's in gear, if the sidestand is put down the engine will stop, again regardless of the position of the clutch.

See the last two items in the chart.

dkdixie · 08-17-2009, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Yellow Jacket

[quote author=macmac board=nomad thread=12916 post=207895 time=1250471454]On this one I just today discovered my bike won't start with the side stand down in gear, clutch pulled in.. it should, but it should quit if I let the clutch out.

Me thinks the side stand switch is the culprit.

According to the chart in the 1600 service manual if the side stand is down and the transmission is in gear the engine will not start regardless of whether the clutch is pulled in or released. Likewise if the engine is running and it's in gear, if the sidestand is put down the engine will stop, again regardless of the position of the clutch.

+1 That's the way mine is as well.

Mac, you've been drinking 8 year old maple syrup again...... ;)

macmac · 08-17-2009, 01:10 PM

Really? I swear it did... I think my 1500 did too, but I can't go test that idea.

Must be I am confused which is pretty normal fer me

I park in gear, shift to neutral, hold the clutch in and fire the bike usually. This lets the lurch of cold oil leave me settin purty, no lurch.

Maybe a few times I shifted to 1st and began to let the clutch out, which kills the engine with the side stand down.

The night I hit the jeep came to question, since that night I had a bad time getting the engine to start after hitting the jeep, but admittedly my thinking was screwed...

I think I would prefer the side stand down, in gear, clutch pulled IN, that the engine would start.. I wonder if I can create that combination..

Other than my 01 Nomad no bikes I ever had had these safetys. I like them, but would like to make the bike start any time I have the clutched pulled in whether or not I was in gear..

hmmmm and Thanks Bob..

vidornomad · 08-17-2009, 04:04 PM

Mine starts on side stand, I disconnected switch. And it will start in gear.

macmac · 08-17-2009, 04:40 PM

yeah I figured I could 'jump the side stand' but I want it to kill the engine if the clutch lever gets let go of, and the side stand is down.

All this makes perfect sence when it ain't friggin 90+ degrees i bet..

08-15-2009, 10:43 PM	#1
n9151 Jr. Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: north platte, nebr Posts: 28	Starter the ol Nomad has developed a periodic problem of what sounds like the bendix failing to engage. Anyone else had a problem like this and what and how much would the fix be. thanx in advance Login or Register to Remove Ads
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08-16-2009, 06:12 AM	#2
ringadingh Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newmarket Ontario Canada Posts: 35,387	Starter Starter problems seems to be rare, your the first Ive heard of with one. Are you sure that your battery is really good, sometimes loose connections play havoc with the starter. __________________ 2002 Nomad aka Bountyhunter VBA #27 VROC #18951
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08-16-2009, 09:24 AM	#3
macmac Sr. Contributor Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tamworth New Hampster 06 1600 Posts: 12,484	Starter The start motor runs, but the engine won't turn? __________________ 06 1600 Nomad Just call me Mac molon labe come and get it
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08-16-2009, 12:37 PM	#4
n9151 Jr. Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: north platte, nebr Posts: 28	Starter The battery was my first consideration. It is less than 3 months old. I cleaned and tightened the connections after the first problem. No the starter does not engage. I really sounds like a battery or connection problem the way it clicks. If and when I find out the problem I'll post.
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08-16-2009, 01:48 PM	#5
Kawhead Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: 6th Floor up at the The Nervous Hospital up in East Central State, NC Posts: 7,454	Starter One rider had a loose connection where the ground wire attaches to the frame. On mine I bought a new battery refusing to believe it was the starter and it turned out to be the starter. __________________ ??-Mar.2,2012 "Rocky" My Beloved Dog RIP Mike Tripp VBA#767 '96 800 Vulcan Classic 06 1600 Nomad 07 1600 Nomad "The shoes you buy at the Salvation Army is already been broke in"- Aunt Kawhead Login or Register to Remove Ads
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08-16-2009, 04:16 PM	#6
macmac Sr. Contributor Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tamworth New Hampster 06 1600 Posts: 12,484	Starter So what is the click? One press of the button and one click? Or one press of the button and zillion clicks till you let go? __________________ 06 1600 Nomad Just call me Mac molon labe come and get it
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08-16-2009, 06:53 PM	#7
cyclecat Advanced Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Magrath, Alberta Posts: 648	Starter Brian's Nomad developed the same thing a couple of months ago, just wouldn't start no mater what he did. He tried and tried the started button and finally she would go when he pulled in the clutch (and no, the kill switch was not off and yes it was in neutral). He took a can of WD40, sprayed the clutch switch, cleaned it up, pulled the clutch a few times, and hasn't had the problem again.
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08-16-2009, 07:49 PM	#8
dogdoc Top Contributor Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 5,263	Starter great news.
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08-16-2009, 08:10 PM	#9
macmac Sr. Contributor Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tamworth New Hampster 06 1600 Posts: 12,484	Starter On this one I just today discovered my bike won't start with the side stand down in gear, clutch pulled in.. it should, but it should quit if I let the clutch out. Me thinks the side stand switch is the culprit. What n9151's problem is I don't know yet..... Would that be code for 1951? That was a purty good year if you ask me __________________ 06 1600 Nomad Just call me Mac molon labe come and get it
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08-17-2009, 01:10 PM	#12
macmac Sr. Contributor Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tamworth New Hampster 06 1600 Posts: 12,484	Starter Really? I swear it did... I think my 1500 did too, but I can't go test that idea. Must be I am confused which is pretty normal fer me I park in gear, shift to neutral, hold the clutch in and fire the bike usually. This lets the lurch of cold oil leave me settin purty, no lurch. Maybe a few times I shifted to 1st and began to let the clutch out, which kills the engine with the side stand down. The night I hit the jeep came to question, since that night I had a bad time getting the engine to start after hitting the jeep, but admittedly my thinking was screwed... I think I would prefer the side stand down, in gear, clutch pulled IN, that the engine would start.. I wonder if I can create that combination.. Other than my 01 Nomad no bikes I ever had had these safetys. I like them, but would like to make the bike start any time I have the clutched pulled in whether or not I was in gear.. hmmmm and Thanks Bob.. __________________ 06 1600 Nomad Just call me Mac molon labe come and get it
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08-17-2009, 04:04 PM	#13
vidornomad Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Vidor, Texas Posts: 346	Starter Mine starts on side stand, I disconnected switch. And it will start in gear.
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08-17-2009, 04:40 PM	#14
macmac Sr. Contributor Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tamworth New Hampster 06 1600 Posts: 12,484	Starter yeah I figured I could 'jump the side stand' but I want it to kill the engine if the clutch lever gets let go of, and the side stand is down. All this makes perfect sence when it ain't friggin 90+ degrees i bet.. __________________ 06 1600 Nomad Just call me Mac molon labe come and get it
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