upping my engine size.

Nikita Nomad · 09-11-2023, 01:42 PM

I am thinking of taking my 17700 up in size. However I am having issues finding any literature or even videos of it being done to a Kawasaki engine. Of course there are a million things i can find on Harley engines. I only found 1 on Honda. Has anyone tried this or know if it can be done?

redjay · 09-12-2023, 06:35 PM

The best and possibly the cheapest way to increase the power output of your bike is to install an aftermarket air intake and have the ECU flashed by Ivans Performance Products.

RACNRAY · 10-04-2023, 02:58 PM

The 1700 is a poorly designed engine from a power standpoint. A good intake and exhaust system along with an ECU flash will allow big gains. This is one of the worst engines to expect worthwhile gains in power when internal modifications are desired.

Although I developed a 109 piston kit with increased compression and have many cam grinds available, the cost and labor involved are not worth the gains in power.

Feel free to all my shop 954-455-9665

RACNRAY

Nikita Nomad · 10-05-2023, 11:05 AM

RacnRay,

Thank you for your input. After a ton of research and speaking with local mechanics (Professional, Backyrad and Racers) I decided against any upgrades. I was planning on just buying a new Voyager or Vaquero until.... Kawasaki released the 2024 information. Highly disappointed with the same old colrs on the Voyager (Grey on Grey) and no upgrades to the sound and information system. The New blue on the vaquero is Gorgeous however, agin no real upgrades to anything. I feel Kawasaki is just not wanting to compete with Harley or Indian in the big cruiser/ touring family. I just purchased a 2015 Electra-Glide Ultra Limited with all the bells and whistles. I rolled out of the showroom with an 8 year bike with only 85 miles so in essence its a brand new bike. That being said I will probably keep the nomad and custom paint and upholstery and a basic rebuild and use her as a show piece.

DragonLady58 · 10-06-2023, 10:10 PM

What RnR said! Its a great stock bike engine, a big cruiser engine....performance wise add air intake, exhaust, emc flashed by Ivan, then if you need more, play with your injector size....if more is needed, go to a turbo and aftermarket ecm unit. After that, you'll be spending ALOT of money getting custom parts made to perform any higher....
Anyway, the 1500/1600 plateforms are alot better for performance....
The big Metric cruisers put the hurt on H-D's bac in the late 90's and early 2000's....then H-D started fighting back by building the big stroker/big bore engines....
Then 'Bang!'....the performance bagger market was born....
Suzuki was building a big V-Twin that was gonna compete with the big H-D's and others at the track, but I think they did something else it it....but they were even gonna have a performance parts section with it....
It would've probably been like the hayabusa program....

The Black Knight · 10-19-2023, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DragonLady58

What RnR said! Its a great stock bike engine, a big cruiser engine....performance wise add air intake, exhaust, emc flashed by Ivan, then if you need more, play with your injector size....if more is needed, go to a turbo and aftermarket ecm unit. After that, you'll be spending ALOT of money getting custom parts made to perform any higher....
Anyway, the 1500/1600 plateforms are alot better for performance....
The big Metric cruisers put the hurt on H-D's bac in the late 90's and early 2000's....then H-D started fighting back by building the big stroker/big bore engines....
Then 'Bang!'....the performance bagger market was born....
Suzuki was building a big V-Twin that was gonna compete with the big H-D's and others at the track, but I think they did something else it it....but they were even gonna have a performance parts section with it....
It would've probably been like the hayabusa program....

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Nikita Nomad Jr. Member Join Date: Sep 2023 Location: Northern Kentucky Posts: 5	upping my engine size. I am thinking of taking my 17700 up in size. However I am having issues finding any literature or even videos of it being done to a Kawasaki engine. Of course there are a million things i can find on Harley engines. I only found 1 on Honda. Has anyone tried this or know if it can be done? Login or Register to Remove Ads
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RACNRAY Sr. Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: SOUTH FLORIDA Posts: 1,210	The 1700 is a poorly designed engine from a power standpoint. A good intake and exhaust system along with an ECU flash will allow big gains. This is one of the worst engines to expect worthwhile gains in power when internal modifications are desired. Although I developed a 109 piston kit with increased compression and have many cam grinds available, the cost and labor involved are not worth the gains in power. Feel free to all my shop 954-455-9665 RACNRAY __________________ "TRUE HAPPINESS IS IN THE HEART, NOT IN THE OUTSIDE FIXES" WITH OVER 46 YEARS AS A MOTORCYCLE TECHNICIAN/HI-PO SHOP OWNER I AM A PURVEYOR OF FACT NOT FICTION! "WE LIVE OUR LIVES IN CHAINS NEVER KNOWING WE HAD THE KEY"
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10-05-2023, 11:05 AM	#4
Nikita Nomad Jr. Member Join Date: Sep 2023 Location: Northern Kentucky Posts: 5	RacnRay, Thank you for your input. After a ton of research and speaking with local mechanics (Professional, Backyrad and Racers) I decided against any upgrades. I was planning on just buying a new Voyager or Vaquero until.... Kawasaki released the 2024 information. Highly disappointed with the same old colrs on the Voyager (Grey on Grey) and no upgrades to the sound and information system. The New blue on the vaquero is Gorgeous however, agin no real upgrades to anything. I feel Kawasaki is just not wanting to compete with Harley or Indian in the big cruiser/ touring family. I just purchased a 2015 Electra-Glide Ultra Limited with all the bells and whistles. I rolled out of the showroom with an 8 year bike with only 85 miles so in essence its a brand new bike. That being said I will probably keep the nomad and custom paint and upholstery and a basic rebuild and use her as a show piece. Last edited by Nikita Nomad; 10-05-2023 at 11:15 AM.
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DragonLady58 Sr. Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Somewhere South of Alaska.... Posts: 2,351	What RnR said! Its a great stock bike engine, a big cruiser engine....performance wise add air intake, exhaust, emc flashed by Ivan, then if you need more, play with your injector size....if more is needed, go to a turbo and aftermarket ecm unit. After that, you'll be spending ALOT of money getting custom parts made to perform any higher.... Anyway, the 1500/1600 plateforms are alot better for performance.... The big Metric cruisers put the hurt on H-D's bac in the late 90's and early 2000's....then H-D started fighting back by building the big stroker/big bore engines.... Then 'Bang!'....the performance bagger market was born.... Suzuki was building a big V-Twin that was gonna compete with the big H-D's and others at the track, but I think they did something else it it....but they were even gonna have a performance parts section with it.... It would've probably been like the hayabusa program.... __________________ --------------------- Don't start no schit, there won't be no schit.... My Sarcasm is directly proportional to the amount of Stupidity involved --------------------- VBA#03239 VROC#37400 VRA --------------------- 2014 Vaquero 2001 Nomad FI 2003 Street Glide (sold) 1500 Meanie, fresh rebuild (sold) 90s BUBF Bobber (sold) 2001 UltraCycle FatPounder (Sold) 1975 HD ElectraGlide (Sold) 1982 Kawasaki Z1 Chopper (Sold) Suck It Up & Ride! Login or Register to Remove Ads Last edited by DragonLady58; 10-06-2023 at 10:23 PM.
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09-12-2023, 06:35 PM	#2
redjay Top Contributor Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 6,927	The best and possibly the cheapest way to increase the power output of your bike is to install an aftermarket air intake and have the ECU flashed by Ivans Performance Products.
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