Interesting idea

**Idaho** · 11-07-2010, 09:30 AM

This came to my email in-box. Should get some interesting discussion going.

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Thursday, November 4th, 2010 | Uncategorized | 12 Comments
Most people know that the State of California is an economic basket case. So much so that the idea of a federal bailout of the state has been proposed. Considering the composition of the new Congress, it’s not likely to happen but if the question should come up, Anita Hurley has an intriguing suggestion:

If CA asks for a Fed bailout, they have to be willing to give up statehood and go to territory status. No Reps, no Sens, just taxes.

There’s a lot to be said for an idea like that. If your state needs a bailout from Washington in order to keep going, then you have tacitly admitted that you can no longer make a go of it on you own. So your state has essentially “territorialized” itself.

Once again, considering the new Congress, I doubt this idea ever sees the light of day. And there are constitutional issues that need to be studied and clarified.

I’m not sure it’s necessary to remove a star from the American flag although you can make a good case that California should be reduced to territorial status, with one congressional representative without vote, until that money is paid back.

But if the question does come up, California’s senators and representatives should be permitted no input into the discussion at all(your bank doesn’t let you dictate the terms of your home loan). “You want federal money?” Sacramento should be told. “If you want a bailout, these are our terms and conditions. Take them or leave them.”

audiogooroo · 11-07-2010, 10:55 AM

I like it! But it makes too much sense, and therefore will never be implemented by the buffoons in control. :-/

AlabamaNomadRider · 11-07-2010, 10:55 AM

I couldn't agree more. Get rid of all the representatives they have. After all they have more than any other state. That would save taxpayers a bunch. Come to think of it why doesn't every state get rid of all but two representatives. Each state has two senators but tons of representatives. If two senators from each state can run things then I would think two representatives should be able to do the same.

**glwilson** · 11-07-2010, 11:44 AM

Too funny Bud! We couldn't be that lucky...

macmac · 11-07-2010, 12:32 PM

I'ld be against it. The Feds are in the same boat and have been for 40 years. That is why most of you to include me have never seen legal money. Really research 1933 and the gold std.

Besides that we can write off Cal for that 13 trillion debt. That's right give the state to China. There is only one guy living there that would even notice any difference. BD

Maybe BD could become a Diplomat and teach the Chinese American hand signs.

That way in a few years we can buy Cali back from the Chinese after the rest of the population breaks the Chinese banks.

And they say I am a hick.

**Top Cat** · 11-07-2010, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Idaho (High Plains Drifter)

This came to my email in-box. Should get some interesting discussion going.

There’s a lot to be said for an idea like that. If your state needs a bailout from Washington in order to keep going, then you have tacitly admitted that you can no longer make a go of it on you own. So your state has essentially “territorialized” itself.

So the auto industry and the financial organizations admitted they could no longer make it on their own. Why did we not let them go under like a private business would have?

NRiderUSA · 11-07-2010, 01:20 PM

And they use California as the example to follow when they are passing their legislation.... tis truly an amazing group of idiots we have....... hope the elections have given us real hope to change or we are all destined to become a suburb of California.

Loafer · 11-07-2010, 01:53 PM

I wonder what the Chinese gov't would do with the illegals and gangs in California? ???

Netnorske · 11-07-2010, 02:40 PM

What completely blows me, is that with the State of California so completely bankrupted.....the voters re-elected mostly the same band of spend-happy socialist do-gooders that got them there in the first place.... ::). Maybe we should just set a couple of charges in that big fault line down there and let it slip quietly into the ocean, giving CJ some new oceanfront property....

!

You know I am kidding right.... ;)!

California could learn alot from New Jersey Governor Chris Christie....that I'm not kidding about....!!

**Top Cat** · 11-07-2010, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Netnorske

What completely blows me, is that with the State of California so completely bankrupted.....the voters re-elected mostly the same band of spend-happy socialist do-gooders that got them there in the first place.... ::). Maybe we should just set a couple of charges in that big fault line down there and let it slip quietly into the ocean, giving CJ some new oceanfront property....

!

You know I am kidding right.... ;)!

California could learn alot from New Jersey Governor Chris Christie....that I'm not kidding about....!!

I was almost afraid to finish reading that post

macmac · 11-07-2010, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by loafer

I wonder what the Chinese gov't would do with the illegals and gangs in California? ???

Put them to work for 10 cents a day building roads ....... by hand.

11-07-2010, 09:30 AM	#1
Idaho Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pocatello, Idaho Posts: 5,241	Interesting idea This came to my email in-box. Should get some interesting discussion going. TERRITORIAL ENTERPRISE Thursday, November 4th, 2010 \| Uncategorized \| 12 Comments Most people know that the State of California is an economic basket case. So much so that the idea of a federal bailout of the state has been proposed. Considering the composition of the new Congress, it’s not likely to happen but if the question should come up, Anita Hurley has an intriguing suggestion: If CA asks for a Fed bailout, they have to be willing to give up statehood and go to territory status. No Reps, no Sens, just taxes. There’s a lot to be said for an idea like that. If your state needs a bailout from Washington in order to keep going, then you have tacitly admitted that you can no longer make a go of it on you own. So your state has essentially “territorialized” itself. Once again, considering the new Congress, I doubt this idea ever sees the light of day. And there are constitutional issues that need to be studied and clarified. I’m not sure it’s necessary to remove a star from the American flag although you can make a good case that California should be reduced to territorial status, with one congressional representative without vote, until that money is paid back. But if the question does come up, California’s senators and representatives should be permitted no input into the discussion at all(your bank doesn’t let you dictate the terms of your home loan). “You want federal money?” Sacramento should be told. “If you want a bailout, these are our terms and conditions. Take them or leave them.” __________________ Idaho (aka Curmudgeon) Blue Knights Idaho III VBA #110 VROC #24864 IBA #49753 2007 Nomad 86,000 miles Bud Smalley Pocatello, Idaho Idaho Jack Adapter Login or Register to Remove Ads
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11-07-2010, 10:55 AM	#2
audiogooroo Sr. Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado/Las Vegas, NV Posts: 3,390	Interesting idea I like it! But it makes too much sense, and therefore will never be implemented by the buffoons in control. :-/ __________________ Audiogooroo - Daryl Porter Colorado Springs, CO VBA #248 VROC #17261 1999 Grn/Grn Nomad
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11-07-2010, 10:55 AM	#3
AlabamaNomadRider Sr. Contributor Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Boaz, Alabama Posts: 13,742	Interesting idea I couldn't agree more. Get rid of all the representatives they have. After all they have more than any other state. That would save taxpayers a bunch. Come to think of it why doesn't every state get rid of all but two representatives. Each state has two senators but tons of representatives. If two senators from each state can run things then I would think two representatives should be able to do the same. __________________ Gene Cross, Jr. Boaz, Alabama KawaNOW/VBA #1181
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11-07-2010, 11:44 AM	#4
glwilson Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: North Central Illinois Posts: 8,575	Interesting idea Too funny Bud! We couldn't be that lucky... __________________ "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." "You can have your own opinion, but not your own facts." *Former VBA NCR Assist Regional Leader* Formerly: 2004 1500FI Bronze Nomad: 2009 & 2014 HD Ultra Current Rides: 2017 HD Ultra Limited & 2011 Can Am Spyder RTS-SE Attended: VBA National Rallies 2009, 2011, 2015; VBA/NCR Regional Rally 2010, 12, 14, 16 and several rides throughout with regional members. VBA Member #652 HOG Member #3935417
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11-07-2010, 12:32 PM	#5
macmac Sr. Contributor Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tamworth New Hampster 06 1600 Posts: 12,484	Interesting idea I'ld be against it. The Feds are in the same boat and have been for 40 years. That is why most of you to include me have never seen legal money. Really research 1933 and the gold std. Besides that we can write off Cal for that 13 trillion debt. That's right give the state to China. There is only one guy living there that would even notice any difference. BD Maybe BD could become a Diplomat and teach the Chinese American hand signs. That way in a few years we can buy Cali back from the Chinese after the rest of the population breaks the Chinese banks. And they say I am a hick. __________________ 06 1600 Nomad Just call me Mac molon labe come and get it Login or Register to Remove Ads
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11-07-2010, 01:20 PM	#7
NRiderUSA Sr. Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 3,781	Interesting idea And they use California as the example to follow when they are passing their legislation.... tis truly an amazing group of idiots we have....... hope the elections have given us real hope to change or we are all destined to become a suburb of California. __________________ NRiderUSA "Rick" "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." 1946 George Orwell
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11-07-2010, 01:53 PM	#8
Loafer Sr. Contributor Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 18,287	Interesting idea I wonder what the Chinese gov't would do with the illegals and gangs in California? ??? __________________ Gerry Martineau / 802 VT / VBA #0892 /[email]glmjgm@gmail.com[email]
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11-07-2010, 02:40 PM	#9
Netnorske Top Contributor Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Everett, Washington Posts: 5,709	Interesting idea What completely blows me, is that with the State of California so completely bankrupted.....the voters re-elected mostly the same band of spend-happy socialist do-gooders that got them there in the first place.... ::). Maybe we should just set a couple of charges in that big fault line down there and let it slip quietly into the ocean, giving CJ some new oceanfront property.... ! You know I am kidding right.... ;)! California could learn alot from New Jersey Governor Chris Christie....that I'm not kidding about....!! __________________ *Kris Olsen* VBA #0691 2017 HD Ultra Limited Low 2013 Victory Cross Country Tour 2012 1700 Vulcan Voyager 2008 1600 Vulcan Nomad 1997 Vulcan 800 Classic *"Growing old is mandatory,* *but growing up is optional"* Custer 2009\|Kalispell 2010\|Cortez 2010\|Crescent City 2011\|Kanab 2012\|Canmore 2012\|Estes Park 2013\|Orofino 2014\|Lake Tahoe 2015\|Red Lodge 2016
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