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Old 09-06-2010, 10:30 PM   #16
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What is the total to buy the add-ons?

John Hoover was behind the original Vulcan Classic design, which was to extrapolate what an Indian might look like today in modern form. With Hoover's departure, it seems Kawasaki went on the HD bandwagon in design.

That being said, when you see what is spent on making the Nomad your own, I have to wonder if anyone could just buy something that has the same things out of the box and therefore without all the hassle for the same money or even less depending on the investment. Just saying.


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Nice spreadsheet!! Good idea to do that to keep track... but then again... I am a "number-nut"

From Cajun and CJ's answers (since I believe they both have added a majority or all of the add-on's listed, besides maybe a different seat), I would then venture a guess these add-on's would be any where from $2,500 to $3,500 total (depending of course on the quality of the add-on and whether one had them installed for them).

I looked up the list-price of a 2010 Nomad and it was $15,199 MSRP (I suppose that was the rock-bottom version).

$15,199 plus the add-on's (if you could get them for the 2010's yet) would put the total price (without tax, title, and license) from $17,699 to $18, 699.

It is too bad that more don't like the Voyager, since it lists for nearly that price, and one could likely get it for less.

With my next statement... I am not meaning to offend anyone that owns a new Voyager...

However, it is too bad Kawasaki didn't make the Voyager in a style and manner that appealed more to the loyal Nomad crowd. I know I would likely be riding one if it would have been designed different.

Just wondering... and sayin'... that's all. ;)

Thanks guys. :)
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Old 09-06-2010, 10:49 PM   #17
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John Hoover was behind the original Vulcan Classic design, which was to extrapolate what an Indian might look like today in modern form. With Hoover's departure, it seems Kawasaki went on the HD bandwagon in design.

That being said, when you see what is spent on making the Nomad your own, I have to wonder if anyone could just buy something that has the same things out of the box and therefore without all the hassle for the same money or even less depending on the investment. Just saying.


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Nice spreadsheet!! Good idea to do that to keep track... but then again... I am a "number-nut"

From Cajun and CJ's answers (since I believe they both have added a majority or all of the add-on's listed, besides maybe a different seat), I would then venture a guess these add-on's would be any where from $2,500 to $3,500 total (depending of course on the quality of the add-on and whether one had them installed for them).

I looked up the list-price of a 2010 Nomad and it was $15,199 MSRP (I suppose that was the rock-bottom version).

$15,199 plus the add-on's (if you could get them for the 2010's yet) would put the total price (without tax, title, and license) from $17,699 to $18, 699.

It is too bad that more don't like the Voyager, since it lists for nearly that price, and one could likely get it for less.

With my next statement... I am not meaning to offend anyone that owns a new Voyager...

However, it is too bad Kawasaki didn't make the Voyager in a style and manner that appealed more to the loyal Nomad crowd. I know I would likely be riding one if it would have been designed different.

Just wondering... and sayin'... that's all. ;)

Thanks guys. :)
There isn't a bike out there that I would want to keep stock the way it came from the factory. Even a CVO Ultra has room for improvement, and they come loaded to the nuts. That's one big reason I haven't seriously considered the Voyager.

I'm sure I'm not the only person here who feels that way. I'm willing to spend the money to get what I want. The money can go to Kawasaki or it could go to Victory or Harley Davidson just as easily.
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Old 09-06-2010, 10:50 PM   #18
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What is the total to buy the add-ons?

ponch...what would you buy? Everyone likes different things and that's part of making the bike your own. HD, of course, found this out early on, charged max price for base bikes and then overcharged for add ons. Thus the aftermarket. Unfortunately the Nomad has not had a long enough run and been popular enough for the aftermarket to make may items and Ma Kaw does not seen to be interested, so we all make our own and adapt whatever we can find. Personally that is what I like, the fun of making something do something it was not designed for and the pleasure of people asking "How'ed ya do THAT!".
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Old 09-06-2010, 11:00 PM   #19
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What is the total to buy the add-ons?

I don't like to fiddle as much as I used to, my expectations have changed and I've never been into farkles. The other thing is, there probably is a lot less to change on the more expensive/full featured bikes than on lesser bikes.


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John Hoover was behind the original Vulcan Classic design, which was to extrapolate what an Indian might look like today in modern form. With Hoover's departure, it seems Kawasaki went on the HD bandwagon in design.

That being said, when you see what is spent on making the Nomad your own, I have to wonder if anyone could just buy something that has the same things out of the box and therefore without all the hassle for the same money or even less depending on the investment. Just saying.
There isn't a bike out there that I would want to keep stock the way it came from the factory. Even a CVO Ultra has room for improvement, and they come loaded to the nuts. That's one big reason I haven't seriously considered the Voyager.

I'm sure I'm not the only person here who feels that way. I'm willing to spend the money to get what I want. The money can go to Kawasaki or it could go to Victory or Harley Davidson just as easily.
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Old 09-06-2010, 11:16 PM   #20
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What is the total to buy the add-ons?

If I was the only one to be on the bike, a BMW R1200GS Adventure. The R1200RT would be a close second. If I was doing two up riding, the K1200LT comes to mind and I am also looking at the EG Ultra. The Voyager is less money, but comes with less and has some teething issues and from the reviews I have read, has some shortcomings as well. It really comes down to price point and purpose. If I was restricted to under 17K and had to do two up, I think the voyager would do. I might consider the cross country as well. If I could spend 20-22K, it opens up some options. From a technical standpoint, the BMWs come with interesting things like electronic suspension adjustment (on the fly), traction control, ABS standard, antidive, heated seats and grips, electronically adjustable windshield, adjustable headlight (on the fly), and more power as well. The HD appeals to me from as emotional aspect. The paint, fit and finish are second to none and the bike just has character. I don't feel that way about any other bike. Well, may be a Ducati, but that's it and it's not the same.

I am a little more practical. I bought it, so it is mine. I am not so much into personalization and no matter what I would buy, I probably wouldn't add anything to it, so may be that's why the BMWs appeal to me, from a left brain perspective. Even with a HD, I wouldn't buy into the accessory non-sense. I am just not a groupie. I went through the customizing stuff with my Kz1000, doing the big bore kit etc, and it cured me. Generally speaking, nothing is more reliable than a well maintained stock bike.


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ponch...what would you buy? Everyone likes different things and that's part of making the bike your own. HD, of course, found this out early on, charged max price for base bikes and then overcharged for add ons. Thus the aftermarket. Unfortunately the Nomad has not had a long enough run and been popular enough for the aftermarket to make may items and Ma Kaw does not seen to be interested, so we all make our own and adapt whatever we can find. Personally that is what I like, the fun of making something do something it was not designed for and the pleasure of people asking "How'ed ya do THAT!".
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Old 09-06-2010, 11:16 PM   #21
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What is the total to buy the add-ons?

wow.... this is a scarey topic.... I don't think I want to start adding it up, and I just got the bike.
some of the items I brought from my old honda but....
fairing inner and outer $300
mounting brackets $150ish
marine radio $200
wompus rack $200ish
mustang seat $450
grasshopper bck rest $100
trunk $250
kyry grips $80
Kyry silver bullet lights $50
sheep skin $70
hard lowers $300
speakers (in fariing, two sets) $50
autocom system $250

I don't think I want to do the math....
(And I'm not done yet - paint job for fairing, trunk and lowers, speakers for the lowers, tach, )
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Old 09-06-2010, 11:44 PM   #22
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What is the total to buy the add-ons?

I recently had to add the cost of my mods for insurance purposes. I had slightly over $2k.

 
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What is the total to buy the add-ons?

It is always a trade off and comes down to individual taste. I bought the Nomad because it had way more stock stuff than anything else I was considering for the money. The truth is that when I wear this one out I'm not sure what my next ride will be. I keep hoping that Kawi gets it right on future versions of the Nomad or Voyager.

I've added Kuryakyn grips and foot pegs (although the pegs came off of my previous bike), longer risers, a mustang seat with backrest and a J&M CB and an XM radio. Both radios will come off when I get rid of the Nomad.

I'm cheap, what can I say?
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You're frugal, not cheap. There is a difference.


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It is always a trade off and comes down to individual taste. I bought the Nomad because it had way more stock stuff than anything else I was considering for the money. The truth is that when I wear this one out I'm not sure what my next ride will be. I keep hoping that Kawi gets it right on future versions of the Nomad or Voyager.

I've added Kuryakyn grips and foot pegs (although the pegs came off of my previous bike), longer risers, a mustang seat with backrest and a J&M CB and an XM radio. Both radios will come off when I get rid of the Nomad.

I'm cheap, what can I say?
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In retrospect, my $3000 estimate is probably a bit on the low side. My tourpak, fairing, pipes and seat alone exceed that figure. Like I said, I never added it all up - but after giving it more thought, I wouldn't be surprised if it was above the $5,000 mark.
LOL...I knew when I read that your figures were light.... ! With the seat and trunk alone I have over 2k invested....close to 5k with all the other things I've added on (it's a long list).....but I have it custom fit for me....just the way I like it!
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What is the total to buy the add-ons?

I agree that no off the show room floor bike will meet the expectations of any rider without some add ons. Even the BMW has some issues that would need to be addressed if I bought the 1200LT (soon to be 1300 or whatever it is going to be). The trunk has to be moved back which means a new bracket extender, forward lighting is always a plus, louder horn, etc.

As for my current bike, the ol' 99 has about $1500 in add ons as close as I can remember. It could be a tick more, but that sounds about right or at least that is all I will admit to the wife ;)
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What is the total to buy the add-ons?

The new bike will be an inline 6 cylinder displacing 1600CCs (http://www.tourer-2010-en.com/index/...ure.of.touring. It's output is 160HP and 129ft/bs of torque). As far as the trunk goes, don't know. I will let you know after I test ride the beast. One of the few shortcomings I have read about the K1200LT is the headlight: It's not bright enough. Still, I wouldn't be spending 5K to make my nomad a EG ultra, and even that isn't equipped as such as a GW or the LT. Just saying.

quote author=coacha board=forsalewanted thread=19655 post=296385 time=1283867888]I agree that no off the show room floor bike will meet the expectations of any rider without some add ons. Even the BMW has some issues that would need to be addressed if I bought the 1200LT (soon to be 1300 or whatever it is going to be). The trunk has to be moved back which means a new bracket extender, forward lighting is always a plus, louder horn, etc.

As for my current bike, the ol' 99 has about $1500 in add ons as close as I can remember. It could be a tick more, but that sounds about right or at least that is all I will admit to the wife ;)[/quote]
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I am not sure, but I bet after this fall/winter the number will be quite a bit higher..... I am likely to enter "tear down mode" this week. If not, then I will wait until after the fall riding season to tear it down and work on in when the snow flys. I have a couple of big $ ideas.
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vOlusia,
Not to change the subject but I used to live and work in Worcester. Do you live in town our in the surrounding communities. I've lived in Worcester, Millbury, Sutton, Dudley.........

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vOlusia,
Not to change the subject but I used to live and work in Worcester. Do you live in town our in the surrounding communities. I've lived in Worcester, Millbury, Sutton, Dudley.........
Yes, I work in downtown and live on Grafton Hill, Woosta is still Woosta, some things never change ;) ::) :)
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