Ivan's ECU flash - Updated - Page 10

BonVoyager · 05-21-2018, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mbarr10

I have found after the flash I can run 6th at 70 but still not feeling it, better but not great. At 80mph it is better. But I can not compare it to a Voyager since the clutch vibrations are different than my Vaquero. Because the clutch is different. I have not been out on the freeway for some time and I just towed home a Trailer, I was not liking it even in 5th at 70. Just repacked the bearings today And need new lights then I can re-evaluate the vibrations. But It was about the same without the trailer on the way to pick it up.

You know, you bring up a good point with the Vaquero clutch being different, I hadn’t taken that into account. I can see how it would feel different being that it isn’t supposed to be as “cushioned” as the Voyager. Also, not that it should make a difference at all, but the Vaquero has an extra piston ring on the pistons than the Voyager as well.

mbarr10 · 05-21-2018, 08:26 PM

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but the Vaquero has an extra piston ring on the pistons than the Voyager as well.

I Am told they take about 10,000 miles to really break in. I think the rings may have something to do with that. I should get there this summer. Now that I have my Trailer and Hitch.

**smokier** · 05-28-2018, 08:29 AM

Greetings,

Just in case the cheap seats haven't heard the cheers for Ivan's ECU magic.
With the most recent flash and a thousand miles of travel, I could not be happier.
MPG's are the best they have ever been. Scoot runs great, it has consistant, dependable, perdictable performance and response.
The bride and I put a couple hundred on yesterday and it was a warm one. Bikes performed beautifully. Even when we got stuck in Galena tourist traffic, the temp, fans and engine response all behaved as expected.

Thank you Ivan. Your time and knowledge are very much appreciated!

For those of you who haven't pulled the trigger yet.

are you waiting for?

OleIrish · 05-29-2018, 02:14 PM

can this be done to the 1500 Nomad?

**JD Hog** · 05-29-2018, 02:48 PM

He has not done this to the 1500/1600 bikes.

OleIrish · 05-29-2018, 09:38 PM

Thanks for advising JD Hog

Soulshine · 07-19-2018, 10:09 PM

I recently had the dealership where I bought my bike order a Freedom Performance True Dual exhaust system for my ‘16 Vaquero. I also asked them to pull my ECU and send it to Ivan in NY for a flash.

I ordered an all chrome exhaust. They installed a chrome exhaust with black tips.

They didn’t send the ECU to Ivan, they sent it someplace else and my ride sounded like crap with tons of backfires and pops. I asked them again to send ECU to Ivan and the owner was strangely resistant to doing that, saying they could fix it by adjusting the valves.

The owner also claimed Ivan once worked for the place where they first sent the ECU. I said I don’t care, send to Ivan. This was Saturday, the owner said he would send it Tuesday.

I called them Tuesday afternoon. Did you send my ECU to Ivan yet? No, the guys here are going to take it for a spin, see if they need to close off a pair valve. What?

I told him according to the forums all Ivan needs to know is what bike and exhaust system you have and the flash works great, no need to adjust valves. Am I missing something?

I brought in a perfectly good bike that was working fine, and weeks later I still don’t have it back, and the owner said if he sends the ECU to Ivan, as I asked (and already paid for) that all he’ll do is put it back in and that’s it.....after his repair shop has already done who knows what to my bike

Something fishy is going on. Any suggestions?

Hope the dealership does the right thing because the bike is barely over a year old (I bought it as a leftover) and I’m pretty sure Kawasaki would be concerned that all work done on the bike was done by the dealership, which took a bike that was running right and turned it into a backfiring sled.

redjay · 07-19-2018, 10:44 PM

Very fishy indeed. You cannot adjust the valves. The Vaquero's have hydraulic lifters that are non adjustable.

In hindsight you should have taken off the ECU yourself and sent it to Ivan.
Sounds to me like the dealership does not have a clue what they are doing.

Peg · 07-20-2018, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Soulshine

I recently had the dealership where I bought my bike order a Freedom Performance True Dual exhaust system for my ‘16 Vaquero. I also asked them to pull my ECU and send it to Ivan in NY for a flash.

I ordered an all chrome exhaust. They installed a chrome exhaust with black tips.

They didn’t send the ECU to Ivan, they sent it someplace else and my ride sounded like crap with tons of backfires and pops. I asked them again to send ECU to Ivan and the owner was strangely resistant to doing that, saying they could fix it by adjusting the valves.

The owner also claimed Ivan once worked for the place where they first sent the ECU. I said I don’t care, send to Ivan. This was Saturday, the owner said he would send it Tuesday.

I called them Tuesday afternoon. Did you send my ECU to Ivan yet? No, the guys here are going to take it for a spin, see if they need to close off a pair valve. What?

I told him according to the forums all Ivan needs to know is what bike and exhaust system you have and the flash works great, no need to adjust valves. Am I missing something?

I brought in a perfectly good bike that was working fine, and weeks later I still don’t have it back, and the owner said if he sends the ECU to Ivan, as I asked (and already paid for) that all he’ll do is put it back in and that’s it.....after his repair shop has already done who knows what to my bike

Something fishy is going on. Any suggestions?

Hope the dealership does the right thing because the bike is barely over a year old (I bought it as a leftover) and I’m pretty sure Kawasaki would be concerned that all work done on the bike was done by the dealership, which took a bike that was running right and turned it into a backfiring sled.

Either you're "Shade125" over on the Vulcan forums, or there are more than one person having seriously bad dealership issues at the moment?

In your place I would tell them to stop what they're doing, collect the bike as it is, insist on a refund for the flash that's been done because it's not what you asked for, negotiate a price reduction for the exhaust that's not what you asked for either, and then box up the ECU yourself and send it to Ivan. Even though he didn't flash it in the first place, I'm sure you'll find that Ivan will be able to resolve all problems with the ECU by either giving it his own flash, or returning it to OEM, whichever you prefer.

Ivan's active on this forum (not the other), but not often. Give him a call, tell him what's happened, and check with him directly. I'm sure he'd be interested in knowing who the dealer is who has ignored your instruction to send him the ECU. And I'm also quite sure he won't penalize you for a problem that they're responsible for entirely.

And per the suggestion over on the Vulcan forum - if you know a lawyer who'd send them a letter, that probably wouldn't hurt.

The one thing I would not do, would be ever take my bike back to that dealer.

Soulshine · 07-20-2018, 08:32 AM

Redjay,

They said something about a pair valve, having to remove it. I don't know why they would have to do that when it's not mentioned as something being needed to be done with an Ivan flash....unless the other guy's flash is not working right for my bike with the exhaust system I had installed

I appreciate your comments

Soulshine · 07-20-2018, 08:43 AM

Peg,

Yes I'm the same poster. They still have my bike. My ECU was finally sent to Ivan and should be back to them very shortly.

At this point, I'll wait and see and hope that they (the owner/dealership) does the right thing and puts the ECU back in and makes sure that the bike is running correctly (including undoing any changes they made to the bike trying to "fix it" with the other guys flash)...I'll let you know how I make out

and I appreciate your feedback

redjay · 07-20-2018, 09:35 AM

As far as I am aware Ivan is the only person offering an alternative to the stock ECU program. I would ask the dealership who the other guy is that supposedly changed your ECU program.

Soulshine · 07-20-2018, 10:25 AM

Redjay,

I know who the other ECU provider was, but at this point I am going to refrain from saying anything further until I get my bike back....hopefully the owner/dealership does the right thing and that's the end.

Kopperhed · 08-02-2018, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by smokier

Greetings,

Just in case the cheap seats haven't heard the cheers for Ivan's ECU magic.
With the most recent flash and a thousand miles of travel, I could not be happier.
MPG's are the best they have ever been. Scoot runs great, it has consistant, dependable, perdictable performance and response.
The bride and I put a couple hundred on yesterday and it was a warm one. Bikes performed beautifully. Even when we got stuck in Galena tourist traffic, the temp, fans and engine response all behaved as expected.

Thank you Ivan. Your time and knowledge are very much appreciated!

For those of you who haven't pulled the trigger yet.

are you waiting for?

Yeah, yeah, yeah....... still kicking myself for not getting it done before going up Pikes Peak......... not fun with the glitchy throttle.

**smokier** · 08-04-2018, 06:33 AM

Greetings Kopperhed,

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Pikes Peak......... not fun with the glitchy throttle.

Fun road and 14k feet, ufda. Bet it was a enjoyable adventure otherwise!

Ride safe,
Smokier

05-28-2018, 08:29 AM	#138
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07-20-2018, 08:32 AM	#145
Soulshine Jr. Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 18	Redjay, They said something about a pair valve, having to remove it. I don't know why they would have to do that when it's not mentioned as something being needed to be done with an Ivan flash....unless the other guy's flash is not working right for my bike with the exhaust system I had installed I appreciate your comments Last edited by Soulshine; 07-20-2018 at 08:34 AM.
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05-29-2018, 02:14 PM	#139
OleIrish Jr. Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: NC Posts: 9	can this be done to the 1500 Nomad?
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05-29-2018, 09:38 PM	#141
OleIrish Jr. Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: NC Posts: 9	Thanks for advising JD Hog
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07-19-2018, 10:09 PM	#142
Soulshine Jr. Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 18	I recently had the dealership where I bought my bike order a Freedom Performance True Dual exhaust system for my ‘16 Vaquero. I also asked them to pull my ECU and send it to Ivan in NY for a flash. I ordered an all chrome exhaust. They installed a chrome exhaust with black tips. They didn’t send the ECU to Ivan, they sent it someplace else and my ride sounded like crap with tons of backfires and pops. I asked them again to send ECU to Ivan and the owner was strangely resistant to doing that, saying they could fix it by adjusting the valves. The owner also claimed Ivan once worked for the place where they first sent the ECU. I said I don’t care, send to Ivan. This was Saturday, the owner said he would send it Tuesday. I called them Tuesday afternoon. Did you send my ECU to Ivan yet? No, the guys here are going to take it for a spin, see if they need to close off a pair valve. What? I told him according to the forums all Ivan needs to know is what bike and exhaust system you have and the flash works great, no need to adjust valves. Am I missing something? I brought in a perfectly good bike that was working fine, and weeks later I still don’t have it back, and the owner said if he sends the ECU to Ivan, as I asked (and already paid for) that all he’ll do is put it back in and that’s it.....after his repair shop has already done who knows what to my bike Something fishy is going on. Any suggestions? Hope the dealership does the right thing because the bike is barely over a year old (I bought it as a leftover) and I’m pretty sure Kawasaki would be concerned that all work done on the bike was done by the dealership, which took a bike that was running right and turned it into a backfiring sled.
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07-19-2018, 10:44 PM	#143
redjay Top Contributor Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 6,930	Very fishy indeed. You cannot adjust the valves. The Vaquero's have hydraulic lifters that are non adjustable. In hindsight you should have taken off the ECU yourself and sent it to Ivan. Sounds to me like the dealership does not have a clue what they are doing.
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07-20-2018, 08:43 AM	#146
Soulshine Jr. Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 18	Peg, Yes I'm the same poster. They still have my bike. My ECU was finally sent to Ivan and should be back to them very shortly. At this point, I'll wait and see and hope that they (the owner/dealership) does the right thing and puts the ECU back in and makes sure that the bike is running correctly (including undoing any changes they made to the bike trying to "fix it" with the other guys flash)...I'll let you know how I make out and I appreciate your feedback
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07-20-2018, 09:35 AM	#147
redjay Top Contributor Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 6,930	As far as I am aware Ivan is the only person offering an alternative to the stock ECU program. I would ask the dealership who the other guy is that supposedly changed your ECU program.
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07-20-2018, 10:25 AM	#148
Soulshine Jr. Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 18	Redjay, I know who the other ECU provider was, but at this point I am going to refrain from saying anything further until I get my bike back....hopefully the owner/dealership does the right thing and that's the end.
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