Heat and dealer comment..

[ponch]

Originally Posted by macmac

I think he means the reed valves and blown air into the head pipes to cook off fumes. That set up did make head pipes hotter, and so does the goat belly.

If that isn't the idea he means then i don't know myself.

I would guess that is it. Air injection...It's an easy fix, but depending on where you live, it may have to be enabled when getting an emissions test, not to mention being out of compliance. More states are starting to use California type standards in emissions, which means sniffer tests. I am surprised that more bike manufacturers just don't make their bikes 50 state compliant. It would be easier that way.

[ponch]

Originally Posted by macmac

The picture in the original post 40 of this quoted one shows a narrow seat that could have scoops or air deflectors to subdue heat..... HD uses these on some of their bikes.

In the picture it looks like inner thighs come close to the rear head pipe and the cly head.

Where is the goat belly on a 17?

Looking at the parts diagram, the catalyst is either in the mufflers or the headpipes as there is no separate catalyst.

[macmac]

I dunno Ponch, some states are just doing away with inspections at all. I wish NH was, but the gold is too good to let go of here for the DMV. When bikes get OBD II they will be doomed to testing in NH then..

Hey if Govt can't take the fun out of a thing, what good is Govt then?

[ponch]

Originally Posted by macmac

I dunno Ponch, some states are just doing away with inspections at all. I wish NH was, but the gold is too good to let go of here for the DMV. When bikes get OBD II they will be doomed to testing in NH then..

Hey if Govt can't take the fun out of a thing, what good is Govt then?

Emissions standards are tightening and I believe by 2016, bikes have to meet tighter standards. I haven't seen states do away with it recently, if anything, it'll increase. As far as OBD II, motorcycle manufacturers have their own proprietary computer interfaces. BMWs have a big DIN 8 connector, I am sure Kawasaki, HD etc have their own. No matter what they use, it's just a terminal connection to the motorcycle's computer(s). I know BMW is going to a water cooled boxer engine because of increasing emissions regulations and HD won't be far behind.

[macmac]

Funny how none of this applies to home and office building heating.... They say in a few more years apx 2020 vehicles must get 55mpg's. I don't see it with todays fuels.

But not much will be a problem for me in 2020, as i'ld be lucky to know my name, if i am wastin' air on this side of the grass at all.

[ponch]

Originally Posted by macmac

Funny how none of this applies to home and office building heating.... They say in a few more years apx 2020 vehicles must get 55mpg's. I don't see it with todays fuels.

But not much will be a problem for me in 2020, as i'ld be lucky to know my name, if i am wastin' air on this side of the grass at all.

Well, the good thing is, these rules can be changed. Will they? Probably not, but after January 21, 2013, it's a possibility.

[smokey]

Originally Posted by macmac

Funny how none of this applies to home and office building heating.... They say in a few more years apx 2020 vehicles must get 55mpg's. I don't see it with todays fuels.

But not much will be a problem for me in 2020, as i'ld be lucky to know my name, if i am wastin' air on this side of the grass at all.

What is also means is that people will use less, and we all know what that means as far as prices go, you think it's expensive now, just wait.

[macmac]

Originally Posted by smokey

What is also means is that people will use less, and we all know what that means as far as prices go, you think it's expensive now, just wait.

i dunno Smokey, Folks still gotta go to work and so far as i know it still snows in wintah'. it takes a little more power than a smart car to move snow.

i don't suppose you know anything about moving snow do ya?

That stuff just melts free for the takin off all cdn roads huh?

if you ever want more for free I usually have several trailer loads.

There really otter be a law about me sayin' that 4 letter 'S' word around heya'

I am blamin' that on the Blue Moon.

[smokey]

Actually last winter was pretty mild, this winter I don't have to worry about shovelling snow, because of my service caused disabilities, the Veterans Affairs have been kind enough to enter me into what is called the VIP program, they pay to have someone shovel the snow, cut the grass, and do the housework, all with set monetary limits of course, but I can live with that.

[macmac]

Originally Posted by smokey

Actually last winter was pretty mild, this winter I don't have to worry about shovelling snow, because of my service caused disabilities, the Veterans Affairs have been kind enough to enter me into what is called the VIP program, they pay to have someone shovel the snow, cut the grass, and do the housework, all with set monetary limits of course, but I can live with that.

That's nice, but you and I both know that isn't what i was tawkin' about. I plowed last winter the few times I had to, which wasn't much, but still it can't be done with a smart car.

Lets just say Cdn gives up plowing because the waste gasses are too bad of a enviro problem? So nothing is plowed and no one goes to work. You think yer still gettin' shoveled out? I don't think so.