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Old 09-15-2017, 02:02 AM   #571
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I have a Mustang for my Voyager - it's my "around town" seat only, replaced with a Russell. My passenger didn't like the Mustang, mostly because moving me that little bit back cramped her for space against the trunk, and also it's too flat, so she slid forward too easily into the drivers backrest.

For the rider it was just OK. Better than OEM but not enough better. I was a staunch supporter of Mustang until this one, but they missed the mark just a little for the Voyager IMHO.

The Russell is wonderful for any long trips, but yes... Vaq's could be just a little too pretty to put tractor seats on.

I'd be looking more at Corbin than Mustang for a Vaq?
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Old 02-11-2018, 09:06 PM   #572
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My ECU gets shipped to Ivan tomorrow. Purchased and brought the bike home last Friday with rain all weekend so I really don't know the bike well enough to know what this flash will improve but did feel a few things I thank were noticeable and needed improving.
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Old 02-11-2018, 10:00 PM   #573
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I took my 18 Voyager out today. It has close to 500 miles on it. I rode it home 300 miles from the dealer keeping it under 2500 rpm. Today I moved up to 3000-3500 and hoped for better power. I had a VTX 1800 and using that as a comparison, knowing the differences. I was really let down with how little power it has. I thought the low end torque would be strong, but no. The hesitation from off idle and all around driveability has me very disappointed. I know its not a Concours but it just feels flat and slow, struggling. I am sending the ECU out tomorrow hoping for better results.
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Old 02-11-2018, 10:15 PM   #574
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I took my 18 Voyager out today. It has close to 500 miles on it. I rode it home 300 miles from the dealer keeping it under 2500 rpm. Today I moved up to 3000-3500 and hoped for better power. I had a VTX 1800 and using that as a comparison, knowing the differences. I was really let down with how little power it has. I thought the low end torque would be strong, but no. The hesitation from off idle and all around driveability has me very disappointed. I know its not a Concours but it just feels flat and slow, struggling. I am sending the ECU out tomorrow hoping for better results.
While I'm not a Voyager owner, I'm very interested in getting one and therefore have researched them extensively on this forum and elsewhere. I have read numerous accounts from VN1700 owners like yourself who were initially disappointed with their bike's performance, only to find it suddenly wake up after 2,000-3,000 miles. It seems virtually everyone who's "Ivanized" their bike notices a marked improvement in performance, cooler running, and better mileage, and hopefully as the engine breaks in that will help as well. Perhaps others here may confirm this.

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Old 02-11-2018, 10:49 PM   #575
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556Alpha, love the color of the 2018's. She's sharp!
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Old 02-11-2018, 11:12 PM   #576
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What air pressure are ya'll finding works well for tire life and grip on these bikes?
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Old 02-11-2018, 11:30 PM   #577
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I took my 18 Voyager out today. It has close to 500 miles on it. I rode it home 300 miles from the dealer keeping it under 2500 rpm. Today I moved up to 3000-3500 and hoped for better power. I had a VTX 1800 and using that as a comparison, knowing the differences. I was really let down with how little power it has. I thought the low end torque would be strong, but no. The hesitation from off idle and all around driveability has me very disappointed. I know its not a Concours but it just feels flat and slow, struggling. I am sending the ECU out tomorrow hoping for better results.
I canít agree with you on the stock power comment, but I can tell you that the driveability and hesitation issues are cured with the Ivaniziation as well as the overall feel of how it performs.
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Thanks for the comments and feedback. I definitely think I got some bad gas, ran most of it out yesterday and added some ethanol tretament to the remainder. I have just under half a tank left and am debating pumping the rest out. Will a basic hand pump work? Any specific recommendation? I sent my ECU off this am and would rather have some better gas in when I install the Ivanized unit.

I have ridden many Harleys from the 88s to the 103. Rode an 03 Road King and 06 Electra Glide for years. Both with a 1450cc engine will would away from my Voyager based on the butt dyno. I assumed another 150cc would compensate for any weight difference with the Voyager.

Hopefully some more miles for break in and better gas with the Ivan reflash will improve things. I have always loved the look of the Voyager, the 18 color combo sold me.

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Old 02-12-2018, 11:19 AM   #579
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The hesitation from off idle and all around driveability has me very disappointed.

Hesitation and Jerky throttle response goes away with the flash. I was going to sell my Vaquero, I was that disappointed. Now I'm happy I kept it. And You will be too.
But Gas Mileage?? If you really wanted good gas mileage you would have bought a Z125.
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Thanks. Im sure things will improve.

I havent said a word about bad gas mileage. Im actually getting 44.2 mpg through 500 miles, better than a Concour 14.

I said I must have gotten some bad gas causing driveability issues. After I came home to pull the risers after filling up I went back out and it barely ran at idle until I put some ethanol treatment in and raised the rpm with the throttle.
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Old 02-12-2018, 05:25 PM   #581
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I said I must have gotten some bad gas
I see that now, My mistake.
So while on the subject though, My mileage did not improve. Totally me though, it was so much fun to drive I rode it harder. "Your Mileage may vary"
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Im already assuming my mileage will drop as the smileage rises. Ive never worried too much about mileage, not using it to commute.
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You might actually see your mileage rise.
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I sent my ECU off today also. Called Ivan. He mention slip-ons for $505 with free shipping with the reflash. Still thinking about it. I originally said I was gonna kept this bike quitter. Love the sound of my 1500 with Vance and Hines but on a long ride it gets in your head.
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I was able to get the ECU installed and get a quick spin in before the rain. I pumped out the fuel in the tank and pumped in a couple gallons of different gas. Bike runs much better with the ECU reflashed. The throttle respose is significantly improved, riding around in 5th feels like the factory flash in 4th. Seems to rev faster if that makes any sense, just all around a much better running bike. I would say its well worth the cost, probably much more. I suppose a bigger air kit and pipes would give it a little more power based on Ivans dyno graphs but I am going to keep it stock for now and enjoy the better throttle response. Bike still has not been broken in, I have read many reports of it running better after adding a couple thousand miles.
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