Which side of the fence?

[glwilson]

I agree; this shouldn't have been posted on this board.

[markusmaximus]

I too agree; this thread shouldn't be here.

Just curious; why was it not suggested to be moved for the first 3 days after it was started? And why ask now?

Just asking...

[phred]

Originally Posted by Markus Maximus

I too agree; this thread shouldn't be here.

Just curious; why was it not suggested to be moved for the first 3 days after it was started? And why ask now?

Just asking...

I'm just guessing, but it wasn't until today that someone got offended, and this thread started getting contentious



Just saying...

[cactusjack]

I knew it didn't belong here the moment I first saw it, I don't have the ability to move it. You don't know when I asked for it to be moved. I just didn't mention it until today.

[AlabamaNomadRider]

I pulled it up under the NMR-OMT and thought this was the correct place for it. I don't see that it has been moved.

I am neither Democrat or Republican and wish there were no parties. Then maybe we could get something done for the country rather than for the party.

This party thing has gotten out of hand.

[phred]

Originally Posted by AlabamaNomadRider

I pulled it up under the NMR-OMT and thought this was the correct place for it. I don't see that it has been moved.

I am neither Democrat or Republican and wish there were no parties. Then maybe we could get something done for the country rather than for the party.

This party thing has gotten out of hand.

Its in the correct place now, it was originally posted in the Nomad topics board.

[AlabamaNomadRider]

Thanks Phred, I did notice later that it had been in the wrong place. Should not have been posted there.

[Cajunrider]

I wasn't going to comment on this thread but I feel I need to since the deep water drilling moratorium was brought up. I live 45 miles from the coastline of Terrebonne Parish. Our marshes are inundated with oil from the Deep Water Horizon. Oysters, shrimp, fish, pelicans and other birds and mammals are dying from the spill. Much of the South Louisiana economy consists of the fishing and restaurant industry. Both bring in huge amounts of tax revenue for the entire state. No one down here, no matter what party you favor wants to see what is happening. Livelihoods of the majority of people along the coast will be affected, including Mississippi, Alabama, and the Florida panhandle. Factually, I don't know this, but safety violations and shortcuts could have occurred that contributed to this disaster. It seems as though the Mineral Management Services (MMS) may have had a cozy relationship with some in the industry. This is never good as MMS may become obligated to those who are offering gifts. I have been in the oil and gas industry for over 38 years and have worked mostly onshore but have worked offshore years ago. For the most part, the Louisiana and Texas economies depend on the oil and gas industries for survival. The moratorium is a death sentence for our state's economy. The team of scientists appointed by the president who wrote the report did not suggest the moratorium in their report. In fact, they have staunchly stated that it would be a huge mistake. Mr. Salazar took it upon himself to include the 6 month deep water drilling moratorium in the report after the team signed it off. More than likely at Obama's request. If you pay attention to the news, there are more southern democrats screaming about this moratorium than republicans. It doesn't matter what party they belong to, they all know that this nonsense will destroy us. Don't forget that a sizeable part of domestic oil and gas production comes from the deep water Gulf of Mexico. Over 34,000 wells have been drilled in the gulf without any serious pollution incidents. This is the first off of our coast. Enforce the strict regulations that are already in place but don't let the 33 deep water rigs leave and sign multi year contracts with Africa and Brazil. They won't come back and the entire US will suffer from this drilling ban. Think about it, it will affect your pocket book also. And don't forget the 11 men who were incinerated doing what they loved. This will be my only post on this thread.

[glwilson]

Well put... ;)

The oil-companies have had a reasonably good record of avoiding major catastrophes thus far. Stopping any drilling will put our entire country at peril in more ways than one -- but certainly people living in the gulf-coast states who depend on its livelihood will be hurt badly.

The unfortunate thing is that many people only think of "oil" as only being either gasoline or oil -- rather than the many other products that are made from it.

If you don't like oil then as a recent AP article says... be prepared to:

Park your car; put away your sneakers; put away the bicycle; turn off the AC and the electric fans; be prepared to freeze or sweat from heat without your home's insulation; forget the deodorant; don't drink the milkshakes; rip up your carpet; throw out the furniture; ditch the computer you are using to read this; toss some of your clothing; skip the toothpaste, shampoo, shaving-cream, lip-stick, and vitamins; forget any plastic bottles or their lids and labels; don't plan on gluing anything... basically; don't plan on doing much of anything you have become accustomed to doing -- because without oil, it just simply isn't going to happen. Oil is one of the most prevalent sources of carbon -- the building-block of modern man -- and very few "things" are not made from carbon bases.

Basically the truth is... many people will simply die if it were not for oil. Food production will drop to a level below the ability to feed the world without oil and its by-products.

I am afraid if anyone thinks for one minute society can live without oil -- they are only fooling themselves.

In history... this period on earth will go down as the Petrochemical Age. ;)

[metalman]

It's amazing. We constantly get nasty emails belittling the Democrats and Obama about everything under the sun. And then we get a moronic post with more of the same on a motorcycle forum. Oh well, I suppose it's what we can expect from the "verbal minority".

[socwkbiker]

Originally Posted by tjb8784

Thank you heath3n. I kept trying to figure out what to say, but I kept deleting it in fear of being kicked off the forum!

Regardless of your political beliefs, affiliations, etc, we are not here to remove people from this forum simply because they express their opinion. If conservatives can express themselves, so can liberals.

[glwilson]

Originally Posted by metalman

It's amazing. We constantly get nasty emails belittling the Democrats and Obama about everything under the sun. And then we get a moronic post with more of the same on a motorcycle forum. Oh well, I suppose it's what we can expect from the "verbal minority".

Oh my... ::)