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Old 05-12-2018, 11:22 AM   #16
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I like it, how can you adjust the ball height though. For the ideal tonged weight towing a trailer it maybe to low. it will not tow the trailer well. You would have to buy a trailer to match the ball height.
No, you can buy different height vertical drawbars just like you can for horizontal drawbars. Additionally, you can buy tow balls with different length necks if you didn’t want a different drawbar.



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Old 05-12-2018, 11:32 AM   #17
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You actually want it slightly lower. Note: You can usually increase height but can only go so low until you hit ground.

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No, you can buy different height vertical drawbars just like you can for horizontal drawbars. Additionally, you can buy tow balls with different length necks if you didn’t want a different drawbar.
 
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Old 05-12-2018, 12:42 PM   #18
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Love the solid mounting of the 5pin round as compared to the flat four flapping in the friggen breeze
Damnit where were you a week ago. To late now. Harness is done and it sucked making it. But all done with the isolator for shy of 30 bucks = 4 prong will be flopp'in in the breeze now.
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Old 05-12-2018, 03:24 PM   #19
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Damnit where were you a week ago. To late now. Harness is done and it sucked making it. But all done with the isolator for shy of 30 bucks = 4 prong will be flopp'in in the breeze now.

Yeah, this is what I said in my 4th post in this before he mentioned it, I always mount them to the hitch. I use the small chrome 5 round connector.
 
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Old 05-12-2018, 03:28 PM   #20
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You actually want it slightly lower. Note: You can usually increase height but can only go so low until you hit ground.
Yup, nose tilted just slightly down to put downward pressure on the rear when braking, don’t want it lifting the back of the bike with the trailer angled up. I doubt I would need any other drawbar or ball with that setup, it likely has it at just the right angle.

Mcbarr was saying he thought it looked too low, so my comments were about going up with the drawbar or ball, not down.



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Old 05-12-2018, 03:44 PM   #21
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I will pull out my wiring diagram and post here tomorrow, but if I remember correctly, the brown wire became the running light circuit and the blue (electric brake/12v power) wire became the brake light circuit.

I use the small chrome round 5 wire trailer connector on my trailer and bike. I also have that connector wired to my other vehicles as well as the standard flat 4 wire connector that most trailers use so I can tow my Time Out with my vehicles as well.
Yah, I remember reading it thinking the timeout trailer had brakes and I did not want to deal with that. And...... What happened to wire diagram?

I can pull the Hopkins from the Harness. I made the Plug "Y" with all 5 wires. I guess it is not to late? I still need the hitch and I do Not Know where I will be getting the trailer yet. Thing is if I find a trailer and it is 300 miles away the only thing I have is the bike to pick it up with. Looking for a tag-a-long or old harbor freight ( money is tight) and they mostly have 4 pins.
I guess I could use Bullet plugs on the Isolator and then I can swap them out on the fly. Mounting to come later after I get a trailer.
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Time out doesn’t have brakes as standard. They are an option, but you don’t want to tow a trailer with brakes on a motorcycle, bad idea.

Forgot about the diagram, will run out to the shop and grab it and post it in a few hours, sorry about that.
 
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McHitch users

Here is the diagram and what the wires are for:

The black notch on top is indicating the notch on the actual connector so you can’t put the connector in the wrong way. Don’t forget the wires on the bike side will be a mirror image of this diagram for the trailer side.

*Yellow= Left Turn

*Green= Right Turn

*Brown= Running

*Red= Brake

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Old 05-13-2018, 06:24 AM   #24
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I noticed you have caps covering the open ends of your trailer hitch. I just realized mine is missing all of them and sent an email - thanks
Update: They are in the mail already! I have always had great communication with Chucksters regarding their products.
Good eye LJ, those were kinda dark photos!
Yeah, Joe @ Chuckser's is awesome!

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Irate Oh goody, I get to re-wire...

Bon V, after looking at your diagram, looks like I wired mine "wrong".
Guess I have some work to do! Thanks man, I needed that!

After Googling 5 pin round wiring diagrams, there are different pin locations. Argh...

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After Googling 5 pin round wiring diagrams, there are different pin locations. Argh...
Now I am really confused. one pic shows the pin of the round plug at the brown, the other pic shows the pin at the yellow. This 4 pin Flopping in the breeze is looking better all the time now. Never seeing a 5 pin plug may have me at a disadvantage I guess.
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Old 05-13-2018, 01:00 PM   #28
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Link doesn’t work for me, it goes to some random page that isn’t related at all.
 
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Bon V, after looking at your diagram, looks like I wired mine "wrong".
Guess I have some work to do! Thanks man, I needed that!

After Googling 5 pin round wiring diagrams, there are different pin locations. Argh...

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Yeah, I noticed that too a long time ago.

To be honest, I forgot that I messed up and accidentally put the red and brown wires in each other places when wiring it up and since this isn’t a standard way of wiring a round 5 wire trailer connector like this with using the electric brake location for the brake lights I just left it alone, wired up the other end the same way and made a diagram for myself to make sure I wire up all my other vehicles the same way.

Not like I will be towing anything else with this type of wiring connector with my bike or my vehicles so it doesn’t actually matter, the wires themselves are being used correctly. Everything else I tow with my other vehicles uses the standard flat 4 wire and any other trailer I may tow with my bike will just get wired this way.

I actually have to replace my wire end as I stupidly left it hanging against the ground over the winter and it got corrosion from the snow and mud. I think I will just go and fix my mistake and wire it the way it shows in the right of the picture you posted and just swap the brown and red wire locations as that’s the only thing that is different than the picture.

That picture you posted would be how the vehicle side gets wired as it is a mirror image of my trailer harness picture I posted once I swap red and brown.

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Last attempt at the link

https://www.amazon.com/CURT-45507-Ve.../dp/B005CC315W

Says summit racing in the Link but I have no clue on the redirect. This one should work. I was wondering if this might clear the rear fender?
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