vulcan 1700 owners...very interesting

flatop · 10-12-2010, 04:07 PM

I called Thunder Manufacturing today to order an air kit, power commander,and left side cover for my Voyager 1700. I called to talk to them because there are no maps available on the web site for 1700s...none.

I was told that's because you don't need one. The 1700s have active O2 sensers in both header pipes that constantly alter the fuel map and the bike can compensate all by itself. Dave said he has had several on the dyno after air kit mods and all is well.

The price of horsepower just went down for a change.

Sin City Stan · 10-12-2010, 08:22 PM

So a power commander is not necessary??

Sin City Stan · 10-12-2010, 08:33 PM

Follow up. I just checked the manual and it does show an O2 sensor. However, it says "if equipped". If there's one on my bike it's hidden pretty well.

I seem to remember reading somewhere about EU Nomads having an O2 sensor.

**glwilson** · 10-13-2010, 05:23 PM

I am waiting Stan to hear his answer about the power-commander.

If what he says is true, then why the PC? I'm with you... not sure this is ligit... just saying.

flatop · 10-15-2010, 07:13 AM

Clarification- ONLY California models have O2 sensors.All others do not. Power commander ordered yesterday. This from Dave at Thunder Manufacturing. The models Kaw gave him for testing were California models.

Sin City Stan · 10-18-2010, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flatop

Clarification- ONLY California models have O2 sensors.All others do not. Power commander ordered yesterday. This from Dave at Thunder Manufacturing. The models Kaw gave him for testing were California models.

So the California models do not need a Power Commander???

blowndodge · 10-18-2010, 06:06 PM

This doesn't sound right..... 02 sensors indicate a closed looped system. Kawasaki wouldn't just put that on Kawasakis shipped to California...

Sin City Stan · 10-18-2010, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blowndodge "Darksider"

This doesn't sound right..... 02 sensors indicate a closed looped system. Kawasaki wouldn't just put that on Kawasakis shipped to California...

They must put O2 sensors on some bikes. They're shown in the service manual with a caption that says "if equipped". It kinds of makes sense that they would have to do it for CA bikes with the higher emission standards.

I have seen after-market fuel controllers that include an O2 sensor. It was about $450. Just don't remember whose website I saw it on. When the time comes I intend to track it down and learn more about it.

tombstone · 10-18-2010, 09:28 PM

I don't know what an o2 sensor looks like, but I did some mods on my bike

http://www.vulcanbagger.com/phpBB3/v...ic.php?t=19002

and (if my "poor man's dyno" is to be believed) I gained power and possibly gained mileage as well. The power I'm certain of but the mpg I need to run a few more tanks to be sure.

mods;
Cobra FI2000
Removed peashooters from exhaust.

My take is the output can be improved.

drno · 10-20-2010, 12:51 PM

O2 sensors are on EU and Aus bikes and apparently California bikes. The rest of the US and Canada dont seem to have them.

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flatop Jr. Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 21	vulcan 1700 owners...very interesting I called Thunder Manufacturing today to order an air kit, power commander,and left side cover for my Voyager 1700. I called to talk to them because there are no maps available on the web site for 1700s...none. I was told that's because you don't need one. The 1700s have active O2 sensers in both header pipes that constantly alter the fuel map and the bike can compensate all by itself. Dave said he has had several on the dyno after air kit mods and all is well. The price of horsepower just went down for a change. Login or Register to Remove Ads
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10-12-2010, 08:22 PM	#2
Sin City Stan Sr. Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 3,746	vulcan 1700 owners...very interesting So a power commander is not necessary?? __________________ Oldest Saloon In Nevada http://www.pioneersaloon.info/ "Sin City Stan" Henderson, NV VBA #01004 VROC #29365 2004 Nomad 1500L5 +100 "The Bike" 2009 Nomad 1700 (past) 2004 Vulcan Classic 800 (past) 2010 Cortez - 2011 Crescent City - 2012 Kanab - 2013 Estes Park
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10-12-2010, 08:33 PM	#3
Sin City Stan Sr. Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 3,746	vulcan 1700 owners...very interesting Follow up. I just checked the manual and it does show an O2 sensor. However, it says "if equipped". If there's one on my bike it's hidden pretty well. I seem to remember reading somewhere about EU Nomads having an O2 sensor. __________________ Oldest Saloon In Nevada http://www.pioneersaloon.info/ "Sin City Stan" Henderson, NV VBA #01004 VROC #29365 2004 Nomad 1500L5 +100 "The Bike" 2009 Nomad 1700 (past) 2004 Vulcan Classic 800 (past) 2010 Cortez - 2011 Crescent City - 2012 Kanab - 2013 Estes Park
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10-13-2010, 05:23 PM	#4
glwilson Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: North Central Illinois Posts: 8,575	vulcan 1700 owners...very interesting I am waiting Stan to hear his answer about the power-commander. If what he says is true, then why the PC? I'm with you... not sure this is ligit... just saying. __________________ "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." "You can have your own opinion, but not your own facts." *Former VBA NCR Assist Regional Leader* Formerly: 2004 1500FI Bronze Nomad: 2009 & 2014 HD Ultra Current Rides: 2017 HD Ultra Limited & 2011 Can Am Spyder RTS-SE Attended: VBA National Rallies 2009, 2011, 2015; VBA/NCR Regional Rally 2010, 12, 14, 16 and several rides throughout with regional members. VBA Member #652 HOG Member #3935417
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10-15-2010, 07:13 AM	#5
flatop Jr. Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 21	vulcan 1700 owners...very interesting Clarification- ONLY California models have O2 sensors.All others do not. Power commander ordered yesterday. This from Dave at Thunder Manufacturing. The models Kaw gave him for testing were California models. Login or Register to Remove Ads
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blowndodge Sr. Contributor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Washington City, Utah Posts: 16,474	vulcan 1700 owners...very interesting This doesn't sound right..... 02 sensors indicate a closed looped system. Kawasaki wouldn't just put that on Kawasakis shipped to California... __________________ I love my Victory Cross Country Tour 106. Smells like Victory! Ultra's are Limited There are two types of Harley riders. Those that trailer them and those that push them. The most Interesting Man in the World "Find the things in life you don't do well and don't do those things" Member # 0005
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10-18-2010, 09:28 PM	#9
tombstone Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Utah Posts: 437	vulcan 1700 owners...very interesting I don't know what an o2 sensor looks like, but I did some mods on my bike http://www.vulcanbagger.com/phpBB3/v...ic.php?t=19002 and (if my "poor man's dyno" is to be believed) I gained power and possibly gained mileage as well. The power I'm certain of but the mpg I need to run a few more tanks to be sure. mods; Cobra FI2000 Removed peashooters from exhaust. My take is the output can be improved.
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10-20-2010, 12:51 PM	#10
drno Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Lethbridge, Alberta Posts: 294	vulcan 1700 owners...very interesting O2 sensors are on EU and Aus bikes and apparently California bikes. The rest of the US and Canada dont seem to have them. __________________ Made ya Look
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