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Old 01-20-2014, 09:26 PM   #1
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Would it be beneficial?

Just wanting to know if I could expect any benefits from a power commander with a stock setup. I have no modifications done to my 2009 Voyager other than a K&N filter. Stock exhaust, stock airbox, etc. I'd really like to squeeze a few more miles per gallon out of the bike. As of now I'm averaging a little better than 40mpg. I'm really happy with that but would make a few changes if they're beneficial to fuel mileage. I prefer to leave the air intake and exhaust stock. Any input is appreciated. Thanks



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Old 01-20-2014, 10:33 PM   #2
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40 mpg is pretty good. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. You're not going to do much better on a big heavy bike.
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Ditto. It'll never be better than now. If you want a high mileage powerful V twin you'd have to get a different steed.
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Old 01-21-2014, 09:55 AM   #4
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I don't believe you will improve your mpg's with any mods, you will only make it go lower. You can mod and get more power but not more mpg's.

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Old 01-21-2014, 09:57 AM   #5
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Ditto. It'll never be better than now. If you want a high mileage powerful V twin you'd have to get a different steed.

You mean a moped.
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Old 01-21-2014, 12:00 PM   #6
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Just wanting to know if I could expect any benefits from a power commander with a stock setup. I have no modifications done to my 2009 Voyager other than a K&N filter. Stock exhaust, stock airbox, etc. I'd really like to squeeze a few more miles per gallon out of the bike. As of now I'm averaging a little better than 40mpg. I'm really happy with that but would make a few changes if they're beneficial to fuel mileage. I prefer to leave the air intake and exhaust stock. Any input is appreciated. Thanks
A few SIMPLE recommendations...

if u r using fuel of an octane rating higher than 90, u may get a bit better mpg with 89 octane. You might even try 87 after running 89 for a few tanks of fuel to assess any further increases in mpg or performance. Using the lowest octane fuel that prevents pinging will yield the best mpg and performance. All of my skoots have benefitted from running lower than specified octane, in mpg gains and a bit better throttle response . And it's cheaper too.

A good brand (amsoil, mobil1, motul, etc) m/c specific synthetic oil will yield slightly better mpg also.

Debaffling the stock mufflers will also allow that engine to "exhale" better, improving performance and mpg without increasing the noise too much.

I have also found that in the rpm and throttle position areas where the air/fuel mixture has been compromised, i.e. leaned out to meet the EPA regs can also hurt mpg. A "too lean" a/f mixture will not release all of the fuel's energy thus compromising mpg and performance.

These skoots are mass produced and thru my 37+ years as a m/c technician I have seen so many variables in all areas of performance. We never know what we are gonna get when we buy a skoot and how that skoot is gonna respond to mods we do.

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I do run premium octane fuel in all bikes I have had. I may try some lower octane fuel and see what happens. I also run amsoil 10w-40 synthetic oil. Thx for all the help and like I said I'm happy with the performance as of now just thought I could squeeze a few more mpg out of it. But for an 800+ pound motorcycle I guess 40mpg is good
 
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I have found these 1700 engines are not very efficient. Lots of internal friction and a single spark plug for such a huge bore. Add onto that the weight and actually as much of an influence is the poor aerodynamics. The Voyager/Vaquero front fairing is cobby at best, lotsa surface area and not aerodynamically designed.

If I putt putt around I will see 45-47 mpg but there can't be any redlights or stop n go. Heading into any kind of head or cross wind kills the mpg, as does speeds above 60 mph.

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